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barrytrotzsneck 04-07-2007 07:01 PM

The official Predators Playoff Thread
 
Round 1, San Jose

Schedule (home games in bold):

Wed., April 11 8:00 p.m. at Nashville TSN
Fri., April 13 8:00 p.m. at Nashville TSN
Mon., April 16 10:00 p.m. at San Jose VERSUS, TSN
Wed., April 18 10:00 p.m. at San Jose VERSUS, TSN
*Fri., April 20
9:00 p.m. at Nashville VERSUS (JIP), TSN
*Sun., April 22 10:00 p.m. at San Jose VERSUS (JIP), TSN
*Tue., April 24
TBD at Nashville VERSUS, TSN

We'll have individual GDTs, but all general discussion should go in this thread.

So let's hop to it!

We get Erat back, leaving only Sullivan out...who we really didn't have last year, either. We're a lot healthier this year, a lot bigger this year, and everyone is a year more experienced. I don't anticipate an easy series, but I can near guarantee that NEITHER team is going to dominate. It's somewhat amusing to see some(not all, for those of you reading and disagreeing) Sharks fans actually salivating over this matchup. I think they may be in for a surprise.

canadianpredsfan97 04-07-2007 07:06 PM

I concur man. If I had to say right now, I'm picking Nashville in 6. But should be a nice entertaining series. Glad we didn't matchup with Dallas. Won't have to worry about facing my 2nd team until another round.

SmokeyClause 04-07-2007 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nomorekids (Post 8811527)
Round 1, San Jose

We'll have individual GDTs, but all general discussion should go in this thread.

So let's hop to it!

We get Erat back, leaving only Sullivan out...who we really didn't have last year, either. We're a lot healthier this year, a lot bigger this year, and everyone is a year more experienced. I don't anticipate an easy series, but I can near guarantee that NEITHER team is going to dominate. It's somewhat amusing to see some(not all, for those of you reading and disagreeing) Sharks fans actually salivating over this matchup. I think they may be in for a surprise.

I like our matchups down the middle A LOT better than last year.

Arnott v. Thornton
Legwand v. Marleau

That's two players we were without, basically, in last years series. Combine that with the emergence of Weber as a defenseman, and we are much better positioned this year than last.

I think it'll come down to special teams. It seems like we've been the far superior team over the years even strength in our head-to-head matchups. But we really struggle when a lot of penalties are called.

Enoch 04-07-2007 07:17 PM

The no. 1 PP unit in the league vs. one of the better PK units in the league. We actually have had a lot of success against the Sharks in the regular season....

The only thing that worries me is the physicality. If we want to go far, we need to win quickly.

WineShark 04-07-2007 08:32 PM

Quick Stats:
  • Pretty even matchup 5 on 5. Sharks are 8th and NAS 5th in 5:5 For/Against Ratio but the Sharks have been really stepping it up 5:5 since the trade deadline.
  • Sharks #2 PP vs Preds #3 PK ..... I'd say thats even, though the Sharks have been less stellar in the past 10 games or so on the PP than previous.
  • Preds PP is 17th but the SJS PK is 15th and hasn't been as strong the past several games.
  • Shots/G, NAS 25th vs SJ 21st ..... nothing there.
  • Shots Against/G. Sharks 3rd vs NAS 24th.
  • F/O Win%, Sharks 11th and NAS 12th - nothing to talk about there either.
  • Goaltending stats slightly favor the Sharks. 2.38 GAA for SJS and 2.53 GAA for NAS
Both teams are better than last year. NAS is more healthy and bigger. Sharks are even bigger than last year. Both teams have a couple key players who will be playing nicked up. Both teams are a year more experienced and both addressed the problems that stopped them from going deep. Both made deadline trade deals that improved their teams. I have to ignore the W/L% because the Preds get a few more easy games than the SJS who have to play ANA and DAL 8 times each (LAK, PHO vs StL, CBJ, CHI).

IMO, the Sharks forwards are better than the D of NAS. The NAS forwards may be slightly better than the Sharks D. The goal situation is probably even. Special teams are also even.

The only real edge is in shots allowed which favors the Sharks, and the W-L record between the teams this year which also favors the Sharks. Add to that the SJS right now are playing their best hockey of the season and have the best road record in hockey, so that would in my mind minimize the home ice advantage.

My POV - respectfully - I look for a good series since there is a history now. Of course I see a fairly even statistical comparison slightly favoring the Sharks in 6 games. I'm certain most of you will differ, and I wish the winner good health in this series, and success through all the playoffs.

PeterAngelo 04-07-2007 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WineShark (Post 8814811)
Quick Stats:
  • Pretty even matchup 5 on 5. Sharks are 8th and NAS 5th in 5:5 For/Against Ratio but the Sharks have been really stepping it up 5:5 since the trade deadline.
  • Sharks #2 PP vs Preds #3 PK ..... I'd say thats even, though the Sharks have been less stellar in the past 10 games or so on the PP than previous.
  • Preds PP is 17th but the SJS PK is 15th and hasn't been as strong the past several games.
  • Shots/G, NAS 25th vs SJ 21st ..... nothing there.
  • Shots Against/G. Sharks 3rd vs NAS 24th.
  • F/O Win%, Sharks 11th and NAS 12th - nothing to talk about there either.
  • Goaltending stats slightly favor the Sharks. 2.38 GAA for SJS and 2.53 GAA for NAS
Both teams are better than last year. NAS is more healthy and bigger. Sharks are even bigger than last year. Both teams have a couple key players who will be playing nicked up. Both teams are a year more experienced and both addressed the problems that stopped them from going deep. Both made deadline trade deals that improved their teams. I have to ignore the W/L% because the Preds get a few more easy games than the SJS who have to play ANA and DAL 8 times each (LAK, PHO vs StL, CBJ, CHI).

IMO, the Sharks forwards are better than the D of NAS. The NAS forwards may be slightly better than the Sharks D. The goal situation is probably even. Special teams are also even.

The only real edge is in shots allowed which favors the Sharks, and the W-L record between the teams this year which also favors the Sharks. Add to that the SJS right now are playing their best hockey of the season and have the best road record in hockey, so that would in my mind minimize the home ice advantage.

My POV - respectfully - I look for a good series since there is a history now. Of course I see a fairly even statistical comparison slightly favoring the Sharks in 6 games. I'm certain most of you will differ, and I wish the winner good health in this series, and success through all the playoffs.

good post, nice read and was good reading the head to head stats matchup. Just one correction, the preds won the season series 3-1.

Captain Marleau 04-07-2007 08:49 PM

Should be a great rematch of last year. Looking forward to see how it plays out this year.

barrytrotzsneck 04-07-2007 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WineShark (Post 8814811)
Quick Stats:
  • Pretty even matchup 5 on 5. Sharks are 8th and NAS 5th in 5:5 For/Against Ratio but the Sharks have been really stepping it up 5:5 since the trade deadline.
  • Sharks #2 PP vs Preds #3 PK ..... I'd say thats even, though the Sharks have been less stellar in the past 10 games or so on the PP than previous.
  • Preds PP is 17th but the SJS PK is 15th and hasn't been as strong the past several games.
  • Shots/G, NAS 25th vs SJ 21st ..... nothing there.
  • Shots Against/G. Sharks 3rd vs NAS 24th.
  • F/O Win%, Sharks 11th and NAS 12th - nothing to talk about there either.
  • Goaltending stats slightly favor the Sharks. 2.38 GAA for SJS and 2.53 GAA for NAS
Both teams are better than last year. NAS is more healthy and bigger. Sharks are even bigger than last year. Both teams have a couple key players who will be playing nicked up. Both teams are a year more experienced and both addressed the problems that stopped them from going deep. Both made deadline trade deals that improved their teams. I have to ignore the W/L% because the Preds get a few more easy games than the SJS who have to play ANA and DAL 8 times each (LAK, PHO vs StL, CBJ, CHI).

IMO, the Sharks forwards are better than the D of NAS. The NAS forwards may be slightly better than the Sharks D. The goal situation is probably even. Special teams are also even.

The only real edge is in shots allowed which favors the Sharks, and the W-L record between the teams this year which also favors the Sharks. Add to that the SJS right now are playing their best hockey of the season and have the best road record in hockey, so that would in my mind minimize the home ice advantage.

My POV - respectfully - I look for a good series since there is a history now. Of course I see a fairly even statistical comparison slightly favoring the Sharks in 6 games. I'm certain most of you will differ, and I wish the winner good health in this series, and success through all the playoffs.

Good post, refreshing, in fact.

WineShark 04-07-2007 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AusPredsfan (Post 8815297)
good post, nice read and was good reading the head to head stats matchup. Just one correction, the preds won the season series 3-1.

Yup. Missed that one. You are right.

Jarnberg 04-07-2007 09:03 PM

Tough matchup for us. Lets hope the team finds their "on" switch, they've been looking for it for a while now.

USF Shark 04-07-2007 11:38 PM

should be fun guys! Good luck to you...it will be a good series.

Basher 04-08-2007 02:00 AM

And...Joe T Choker kept his name the whole season - foreshadowing at it's best.

golfmade 04-08-2007 02:43 AM

I'm expecting us all to step it up a few notches for the playoffs. Lay off the homer **** when representing our team on these boards and show some class.

That and I can't wait to see irisheye's GDT's, should be a doozie.

Preds in 6.

cantskate 04-08-2007 03:06 AM

Sharks fan here. This should be one of the best 1st round matchups. Both teams have speed and skill. I'm expecting a lot of end to end action. Don't have any predicitions, just looking forward to some good hockey.

cantskate 04-08-2007 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stranger (Post 8816047)
Tough matchup for us. Lets hope the team finds their "on" switch, they've been looking for it for a while now.

The preds are "on". You guys took out a desperate Avs team that has been one of the hottest teams in the league over the past month and a half, and you had nothing to play for today, really.

It should be a good series.

RollingPredFan 04-08-2007 08:26 AM

What worries me as a Pred fan

1) Vokoun - just dont know what how he will play. He drives me crazy when he dives from his net for a poke check, misses, and give the opposition an empty netter. He has done that 3 times or so this year :rant: But he is also capable of standing on his head, just haven't seen that in while.

2) Our D-men and the little playoff experience they have. We won't see Vishnevski I guess, Trotz just doesnt trust him.

3) Our PP, it just hasn't been good most of the year. Average at best.

4) Trotz getting outcoached

5) Taking too many penalties (and hopefully the officiating will not be questioned)

But I'm a homer so I will say Preds in 6 :p: hehe

Enoch 04-08-2007 08:49 AM

The only problem I have with the post dissecting the two teams is the roster comparison.

I would say on offense, the Sharks gel better as a team, but you will have a hard time convincing me that we are not at least equal to the talent they are icing.

On defense, it is a clear edge in our favor. Even with the addition of Rivet, the Sharks defense is extremely green. The one thing working in their favor is that the Sharks play a tight collapsing system that minimizes the mistakes they can make.

predhead1 04-08-2007 09:37 AM

Obviously the starkest difference between last year and this year is the matchup down the middle. Forsberg-Arnott-Legwand-Nichol should make a huge difference for us (as opposed to Legwand-Johnson-Sillinger-Perrault).

It seems somewhat appropriate that in the first round we are facing the team that prompted such drastic changes to our lineup in the offseason.

Basher 04-08-2007 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by predhead1 (Post 8823809)

It seems somewhat appropriate that in the first round we are facing the team that prompted such drastic changes to our lineup in the offseason.

Exactly. We *should* win this series, being that everything we did in the off-season was to remedy what was exposed in last year's playoffs.

In The Flesh 04-08-2007 10:53 AM

pulling for the Preds out West, huge Admirals fan.

barrytrotzsneck 04-08-2007 10:54 AM

any word on when this gets underway?

Jarnberg 04-08-2007 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cantskate (Post 8822448)
The preds are "on". You guys took out a desperate Avs team that has been one of the hottest teams in the league over the past month and a half, and you had nothing to play for today, really.

It should be a good series.

Doesn't change the fact that we've been really bad for over a month now.

barrytrotzsneck 04-08-2007 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nomorekids (Post 8824632)
any word on when this gets underway?

Wednesday- Game 1

Friday - Game 2

Just read that.


Wow, Stranger, you're being uncharacteristically Gnashvillian about this, I'm not used to that from you ;)

Jarnberg 04-08-2007 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nomorekids (Post 8824827)
Wow, Stranger, you're being uncharacteristically Gnashvillian about this, I'm not used to that from you ;)

Well, I'm not saying the owner is making the team tank on purpose so he can move them to Kansas City.

But I am a bit negative, yes. Part of it is the fact that if I say we'll do well, well then the opposite will happen. And the other part of it is me trying to be realistic. We haven't been playing that well.

Not that I would be upset if the Predators prove me wrong ;)

SC2008 04-08-2007 12:28 PM

Sharks fan here.

I love how your team has improved from last year. Not just with the aquisitions of Forsberg, Arnott, Dumont, but also with the coming of age of your young Defense and other players like Legwand, Radulov, etc.

The real advantage of having Forsberg is not so much that he'll score a lot of points. Its that he'll pre-occupy Hannan--our best shut-down guy, thus freeing up solid playoff performers like Arnott and Dumont to attack the rest of our blueliners. The Preds will win the series if they take advantage of that.

I believe the goaltending is a wash. Voukoun isn't the same, but so isn't Nabby. We both have solid back-ups if any of them falter.

I don't need to reiterate how evenly matched up we are statiscally, and I rarely use that as an indicator to how a series will play out since the preparation to play an opponent for posibly 7 straight games is different than playing a regular season game. Its about watching the quality of play of recent history. (i.e. post-trade deadline play)

I believe this series will come down to health and I feel the Sharks are coming in as the healthier team and will prevail to the second round. If it weren't for that, I'd be a toss-up--what a perfect 4 vs. 5 series should be.


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