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dave4 04-19-2007 11:38 AM

Good & Bad of a long layoff
 
Assuming the Rangers won't start the next series until the middle of next week, I was thinking about the positives and negatives of being off for that long. I think the positives definitely outweigh the negatives, but there are some things the coaches must consider and work to offset with the team being off so many days.

Positives:

1. We definitely advance!
2. We came out of the series pretty healthy, I think, and now there are no more game opportunities for someone to get hurt. HUGE positive.
3. While not wishing injury on anyone from any other team, the teams that are still battling must be concerned with losing a good player even if they advance and have to start their next series right away.
4. The players who were injured, like Rachunek, and others like Hossa, Straka, Jagr and Shanahan who were nursing minor problems, have another week to get healthy.
5. Hank gets time off to rest after a long three months of playing almost non-stop.

Negatives:

1. The team has been on such a roll for the last three months, the coaches must be very careful that the team keeps it's 'edge', or at least regains it, when the next series starts. As a fan, it's almost a shame we're not going to see Ranger hockey for a week.

There are precedents both ways, of course. Last year the Devils had a long time off after beating us, and took a while to get started against Carolina. I heard lots of Devil fans saying the layoff hurt.

Of course, we had a four game sweep of our own in 1994, and played very well right from the beginning of the Cap series. If I remember correctly, game one of the Cap series was a full eight days after the Islander series ended.

The coaching staff is going to have to walk a fine line between gearing the team up so they're ready for the next round, and not working them too hard so they get worn out, and get the rest they need.

Should be interesting, but the only thing we know for sure is if the Rangers start the next series well and go on to win, people will credit the time off. And if they start the next series poorly and go on to lose, people will blame the time off.

Silly Goose 04-19-2007 11:45 AM

The only negative is that the guys may get out of the rythem that they are in. Other than that, there is nothing negative about it.

dave4 04-19-2007 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angry Typing Guy (Post 8992645)
The only negative is that the guys may get out of the rythem that they are in. Other than that, there is nothing negative about it.

That's pretty much why I listed that as the only negative. :D

SingnBluesOnBroadway 04-19-2007 11:47 AM

The coaching staff and vets won't let the team get complacent.

Guys will get to rest some due to age (Shanny, Jagr) and some due to being a bit banged up (Hossa).

It will give them time to work on the PP and PK.

It will give the coaching staff time to scout the Sabres and Sens.

Chimp 04-19-2007 11:48 AM

The extra time nursing injuries and resting sore bodies is worth the risk of having the team "laying off", as it's - as I see it - purely psychological. They all know what to do and what they have been doing the last 3 months.

Too bad we don't know exactly which team we're playing so we could watch them extra carefully for a week. Our players can relax and watch some great playoff hockey.

DontStaal 04-19-2007 01:48 PM

we did it in 94 we can do it again ;)

Forechecker 04-19-2007 01:49 PM

Also, I think the lesson from last year's Devils meltdown will not be lost on Renney et al. The Debbies went into that series thinking they were invincibile with Brodeur in net, and a hungrier Hurricanes team took the fight to them, and won. We will be the underdog until we win the Cup, and that's what Renney will remind his players. Every one above us has the burden of expectation. Every game we play from now forward is gravy, and we're better for it.

NYRchick 04-19-2007 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dave4 (Post 8992584)
Assuming the Rangers won't start the next series until the middle of next week, I was thinking about the positives and negatives of being off for that long. I think the positives definitely outweigh the negatives, but there are some things the coaches must consider and work to offset with the team being off so many days.

Positives:

1. We definitely advance!
2. We came out of the series pretty healthy, I think, and now there are no more game opportunities for someone to get hurt. HUGE positive.
3. While not wishing injury on anyone from any other team, the teams that are still battling must be concerned with losing a good player even if they advance and have to start their next series right away.
4. The players who were injured, like Rachunek, and others like Hossa, Straka, Jagr and Shanahan who were nursing minor problems, have another week to get healthy.
5. Hank gets time off to rest after a long three months of playing almost non-stop.

Negatives:

1. The team has been on such a roll for the last three months, the coaches must be very careful that the team keeps it's 'edge', or at least regains it, when the next series starts. As a fan, it's almost a shame we're not going to see Ranger hockey for a week.

There are precedents both ways, of course. Last year the Devils had a long time off after beating us, and took a while to get started against Carolina. I heard lots of Devil fans saying the layoff hurt.

Of course, we had a four game sweep of our own in 1994, and played very well right from the beginning of the Cap series. If I remember correctly, game one of the Cap series was a full eight days after the Islander series ended.

The coaching staff is going to have to walk a fine line between gearing the team up so they're ready for the next round, and not working them too hard so they get worn out, and get the rest they need.

Should be interesting, but the only thing we know for sure is if the Rangers start the next series well and go on to win, people will credit the time off. And if they start the next series poorly and go on to lose, people will blame the time off.

Great job. You've pretty much summed up how I feel about the pros and cons of sweeping this series.I wonder if the coaches would consider playing simulated games( sort of like blue and white teams) within the team,as they do during training camp,just to keep them fresh,and in game shape,so that they don't lose that edge. This way,they can still work on the PP and PK as if in game situations,without the rough stuff. What do you guys think?

Speedtrials 04-19-2007 03:41 PM

Also, it is very likely that the Sabres and Sens will each be finishing their series up in 5 games as well, giving them a pretty decent layoff as well.

NYRchick 04-19-2007 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speedtrials (Post 8995491)
Also, it is very likely that the Sabres and Sens will each be finishing their series up in 5 games as well, giving them a pretty decent layoff as well.


Well,I'm listening to 1050 now,and Don's talking Rangers and hockey in general(since you can't get Mike and Dog to talk hockey for more than 2 minutes,not that they know the game anyway),he says that the Rangers would either play next Thursday or Friday.That's a pretty long layoff.

Forechecker 04-19-2007 04:02 PM

Second Round window is 04/25 - 05/09, according to the NHL. I don't think they will force the NYR to wait almost 10 days to play, especially if the Sabres & Sens wrap up their series in 5 games.

Son of Steinbrenner 04-19-2007 05:36 PM

good-the rangers won

bad-nothing

this is stupid..

VEGASRANGERFAN 04-19-2007 05:37 PM

Isn't it true that the only other 2 times we swept a series we made the cup finals?

bobbop 04-19-2007 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VEGASRANGERFAN (Post 8996788)
Isn't it true that the only other 2 times we swept a series we made the cup finals?

Yup...1972 and 1994

WhipNash27 04-19-2007 06:35 PM

Rangers will still be underdogs in the next series. People will say they beat a weak team who was actually the #5 team in a weak division. So as long as we're the underdogs we're fine ;).

I Am Chariot 04-19-2007 09:42 PM

The A Train injured in Game 5 for Ottawa

Thats why finishing a team as soon as possible is good

DevFan-RU- 04-20-2007 09:29 AM

How have the Rangers done after long (4 or more day breaks) in the Regular Season?

Frank the Tank 04-20-2007 09:57 AM

Last year, rest did not help teams win their next round series as the team with more rest went 0-6.

2005-2006 playoffs (number of games for each team to win previous series in brackets)

Conference Semi-finals
Buf(6) def Ott(5)
Car(6) def NJ(4)
Edm(6) def SJ(5)
Ana(7) def Col(5)

Conference Finals
Car(5) def Buf(5)
Edm(6) def Ana(4)

Stanley Cup Final
Car(7) def Edm(5)

More likely an anomaly because since 2000 it has been about 50-50.

Brooklyndevil 04-20-2007 11:31 AM

In my opinion, when you're hot, you want to play as soon as possible. The log layoff only helps if some of your best players were beat up and needed some time to heal.


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