Cats-Sabres proposal
 

Looks like both are struggling and could use a change of venue so how about swap?

Huselius for Pyatt

I donno if that would be enough for Dudley to take it... Huselius is a proven 20 goal scorer Taylor Pyatt has yet to top 14 goals. although I am do like Pyatt's size 6'4 227 maybe if you Buffalo added a pick or something it would work or a prospect who is a defenseman.

How about this....

To Florida: Taylor Pyatt and Brian Campbell
To Buffalo: Kristian Huselius

Or

To Florida: Taylor Pyatt and 2004 2nd round pick/lower level prospect
To Buffalo: Kristian Huselius

*gasp*, a moderator that didnt put "proposal" in the title :eek:

As for the proposal, I'm not really an expert on Huslieus so I can't really comment on it

I wouldn't make that deal if I was Buffalo, I think Pyatt will become a 30 goal scorer in the future. He's also a big guy so thats always an advantage. Plus he's younger than Huselius by a few years.

Nice try.

Huselius has got game breaking offensive talent but he is also soft and one-dimensional. Pyatt, at his worst, is a very good defensive player with offensive upside.

Buffalo would not take Huselius for Pyatt straight up, and they woudl certainly not throw in additional prospects or picks.

I think a fairer deal would be Huselius to Buffalo for a 2nd round pick.

lol well Darth it was worth a fricking try :-)

I tend to agree with you Darth. I've been a huge Pyatt fan for quite awhile for the reasons you cite. And to make things worse this is a horrible time to be offering an ice cold Huselius. Still, he's got a couple of 20+ goal seasons under his belt and his scoring is sure to rebound...eventually.

I thought of adding a 3rd rd pick or even as much as Novak (who I'm sure would be more than enough to close the deal) but I suspect Sabre fans are just as frustrated with Taylor as Cat fans are with Kristian. In the end I honestly believe the winner of a straight up trade could be either club or both.

So Pyatt for Huselius

fine.... I could live with it, as long as we drqaft a goal scorer in the next draft.

I'd do a Pyatt for Huselius trade straight up from a Panther POV, not sure what Sabre fans would think tho, I doubt they would do it since they already got Maxim and Miro on the wings.

Huselius for only a 2nd rounder?

I know that Stillman went for a 2nd,but Huselius has much more offensive potential.

As a Sabres fan, I wouldn't do it. IMO, in a few years, Pyatt will be far more valuable than Huselius. Taylor Pyatt's got the potential to be a Bertuzzi-like player, and I'd gamble keeping him to see if he develops into that rather than take in Huselius, which isn't what Buffalo needs at this point.

tho i wouldnt mind huselinus, we need more pysical guys.

i would shake up our LW by getting Morrow and Matvichuk for Satan + 2nd, and Huselinus for Max afinagenov.

but first of all, sack ruff and reiger.

anyway, we get rid of our only Power forward prospect, and as much as he sucks, his still useful.

Yeah, you're right. I was being too hard on Huselius there. He does have elite talent, and his potential is high. You're right that I was underrating him substantially.

What would it take for the Sabres to nab Van Ryn?

The Sabres lack grit, especially big, potentially gritty guys who have some offensive talent. They'd be wise to find another player like Pyatt's stature instead of trading the one they have for another one dimensional streaky player who is in the coaches doghouse, Buffalo is overflowing with them already.

Hard to say because we lack depth on the blueline. A solid young defenseman and something else maybe but I think Van Ryn has been one of our top defenseman this season.

Maybe something like Tallinder and Brown for Van Ryn and a 2nd? Campbell could also be added as a young, RHer, for depth. Say Tallinder, Brown, and Campbell for Van Ryn, 2nd, and 5th.

we already have enought centers we wouldn't need Brown I consider Cullen to be like Brown. I known this seems farfetched but anyway we could get Dmitri Kalinin because Van Ryn is our #2 defenseman

I am still hesitant to trade Huselius. I would really want Maxim Afinogenov, Kalinan, Pyatt, Kotalik (yeah right), or Noronen coming back from BUF.

Jokinen wont be traded but hypothetically speaking BUF was interested and FLA and them were close, What value would Jokinen get:

Proposal

Jokinen

for

Kotalik and Kalinen

or

Jokinen

for

Pyatt and Afinogenov

It's obvious we all value our current players more than what we want to acquire, but these are out of control and a definite no from Buffalo. Jokinen is going to have to continue to produce without Keenan over his shoulder, and needs to drastically improve his +/-.

i like the second.

but hows this:

Jokinen + Van ryn

for

Kalinen + Pyatt + Afinogenov?

Wow. Hand over the guy who's closest to taking over Zhitnik's role on the blueline with the blueline in disarray <i>and</i> the Sabres only top 9 forward with any size when they're one of the smaller teams in the league <i><b>and</i></b> one of the few Sabres with speed...who're all under 24. This does nothing to build for the future, simply shuffles players, including one who's yet to show he can produce without Keenan's prodding.

Regarding the original post:

Huselius holds no interest for me. He's a non-physical scoring winger, a position the Sabres are awash with (Afinogenov, Dumont, Satan, Kotalik, Pominville, Hecht). Pyatt's one of the few Sabres forwards with the size to compete in today's clutch-n-grab style NHL. Florida is trying to build toward the future and despite what some may think, Buffalo's primary focus has been on building toward the post-CBA future as well. The deal doesn't further that end.

Probably a ridiculous offer since he's logging the most minutes of any Panther and (as you likely know) has played very well.

yeh, true we get rid of a few parts, but:

Kalinen works 1 in 5 games. thats pathetic.

Max isnt gonna score. his just a fast waste space. maybe if we ship him off to the panthers he might do something.

Pyatt sucks. big time. he doesnt score and he wont goto the net. we can get morrow and shuffle a little salary over there, and get morrow and matvichuk if the deals sweet. we need size anyway.

Jokinen is a All star, he broke out last year and may just be going through a bad patch, know modano's current pathetic stats.

i dont know van ryn, buthe seems good, so im up for getting him.


that way we trim our roster,get a couple of available players who look half decent and get rid of a couple of dead wieghts, tho kalinen might be a little high, maybe Tallinder or Delmore/Campbell.

Looks like I will be the jerk and point a few things out


1)Husalius has been a healthy scratch alot lately
2)To compare Pyatt to Husalius is to compare apples to oranges
---Husalius in a one dementional player--when it comes to his own zone and enless he starts to play his own zone---he better get used to the healthy scratch thing
---Pyatt is growing into a powerforward and give him a few years and he will be good. Pyatt may not get the puck into the goal as much as Husalius may--but he may already be a better all a round player and in this NHL--that is a much better thing to be sometimes.
3)Buffalo has a gone like Husalius called Satan--they are trying to move him for several reasons--besides salery--- he also plays poorly in his own zone and is invisable on most nights.


kay-- start the hate