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handtrick 05-09-2007 03:03 PM

Free Agent Talk
 
Since things appear to be getting a little boring around here, thougt I would throw this one out there.....

I find it interesting that Eklund is mentioning the Preds in association with Saku Koivu.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=7424

I know:wedgie: , it's Eklund and all, but the guys does have an amazing amount of contacts, and I am sure that Poile has got some feelers out there to determine the interest in other UFAs in the Preds as he gages Timonen, Kariya, and Hartnell's interest in staying.

I gotta tell you...he does bring great leadership qualities....BUT....at $4.75 mill last year....and at 5'10" and 187 lbs, with G22 A53 Pts75 [the most in his career, by the way].......he was a still a freaking -21 last year.

If we are thinking about throwing that kind of money around for a center....they better be looking at "Mr. Clutch" Chris Drury, as far as I am concerned.....heck, I would rather go for Michael Handzus at less than 1/2 the amount that Koivu or Drury will be seeking....than for Koivu.

barrytrotzsneck 05-09-2007 06:02 PM

I love Koivu, I love his leadership, but we need size\scoring at this point.

barrytrotzsneck 05-09-2007 06:25 PM

What about Shanahan? I know that he's looking to return to NY, and I know he was possibly the biggest Pred-Killer in history..but he'd add a great deal of size, scoring and leadership...

Enoch 05-09-2007 07:16 PM

The only problem with Koivu is that he WILL get hurt. He plays bigger than he is, is a leader and a warrior. Anyone remember the playoff matchup of the Habs vs. the Bruins? The guy had so many injuries, I was surprised he could get out of bed and he still scored bundles of points......

There will be a lot of centers out on the market this year. It would be interesting to see if we grab one. Drury, Briere, Koivu, Gomez, Handzus, Forsberg......just to name a few. Signing a center could also be a protection clause for the impending FA of David Legwand.....

Basher 05-10-2007 12:51 AM

ZEUS - one of my favorite centers in the game.

PeterAngelo 05-10-2007 06:22 AM

Here's what i am hoping we do:

*Hope Buffalo sign Briere leaving Drury on the open market, and then throw everything including the kitchen sink at getting him in a preds jersey.

*Farewell Timonen with a handshake and a 'best of luck' if he is indeed looking at a payrise, and sign a defenseman in the ilk of scott hannan.

*Re-sign Hartnell

*Let Kariya go with a and a pat on the back, and a 'thanks for being the first big free agent to show an interest in Nashville and thanks for helping to put the preds on the map as a free agent destination'.

*Give Radulov Kariya's minutes.

Joe T Choker 05-10-2007 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by AusPredsfan (Post 9236217)
Here's what i am hoping we do:

*Hope Buffalo sign Briere leaving Drury on the open market, and then throw everything including the kitchen sink at getting him in a preds jersey.

*Farewell Timonen with a handshake and a 'best of luck' if he is indeed looking at a payrise, and sign a defenseman in the ilk of scott hannan.

*Re-sign Hartnell

*Let Kariya go with a and a pat on the back, and a 'thanks for being the first big free agent to show an interest in Nashville and thanks for helping to put the preds on the map as a free agent destination'.

*Give Radulov Kariya's minutes.

Thank god I'm not the only one that's saying that

hillbilly 05-10-2007 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Fire Trotz (Post 9236400)
Thank god I'm not the only one that's saying that

I don't agree with you on a lot of things, but I'll agree here.

barrytrotzsneck 05-10-2007 11:02 AM

contingency plan...cheaper option than Hannan...

Cory Sarich

Enoch 05-10-2007 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by nomorekids (Post 9237429)
contingency plan...cheaper option than Hannan...

Cory Sarich

Man that is a huge fall back plan......I mean Sarich is nothing special. He is more in the Hnidy mold then a top 3 defenseman mold.

barrytrotzsneck 05-10-2007 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Enoch (Post 9237517)
Man that is a huge fall back plan......I mean Sarich is nothing special. He is more in the Hnidy mold then a top 3 defenseman mold.

He's much, much better than Shane Hnidy. Shane Hnidy is a number 6 or even 7 on most teams...Sarich is more like a solid number 4...

barrytrotzsneck 05-10-2007 11:18 AM

and as much as I want us to be, I'm saying this mostly because I think it's a lot more realistic than Hannan. We've been spoiled the last couple of years with the Kariya\Arnott signings, but realistically, I don't see anything like that, this year.

I actually worry that our big summer signing this year will be Paul Kariya.

Enoch 05-10-2007 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by nomorekids (Post 9237554)
and as much as I want us to be, I'm saying this mostly because I think it's a lot more realistic than Hannan. We've been spoiled the last couple of years with the Kariya\Arnott signings, but realistically, I don't see anything like that, this year.

I actually worry that our big summer signing this year will be Paul Kariya.

Your probably right. I'm guessing we bring in a guy like a Markov either through a trade or as an outright signing. One thing has become clear - Kevin Klein is ready for the NHL, and Poile has even stated as much. He will either be given a roster spot or traded. Zidlicky could be traded as well. In fact, I would say it is very likely that one of Zidlicky or Klein is going to be moved, even if we have no intentions of bringing Kimmo back.

I'll look at the list of FA later and mention who I think we would likely target or have interest in.

PredDave 05-10-2007 01:32 PM

Eklund's chart says that Scott Walker has a 50% chance of resigning with the Predators, too. :shakehead

I would love us to cut ties with Scott Nichol and sign Wayne Primeau instead.

A veteran guy like Martin Gelinas or Gary Roberts would be great for filling the locker room with more heart and soul... (assuming Sully is out for 1/2 to 2/3 of a season).

1 veteran (and/or physically big) D-man signing? Aaron Miller, Ken Klee, Ossi Vaananen, Nick Boynton, Cory Sarich, Scott Hannan anyone?

Trade Zidlicky, let Timonen walk, sign Kariya for one more year at a cheaper rate (otherwise let him walk), and please, please, please sign Hartnell long term (5 years @ 3 million per year).

Drury or Gomez signed to be our bonafide #1 center would be awesome, but I would settle for a bigger, cheaper Handzus.
Who am I kidding? We'll end up with Smolinski or Peca, I bet... :sarcasm:

What about a winger with some net presence, like a Taylor Pyatt? :)

FissionFire 05-10-2007 03:44 PM

Suprised you guys wouldn't want Danny Markov back. I've been very impressed with his defensive and physical game this season and still wondering exactly why the Preds didn't want him back. Seems his nasty in-your-face style would have been perfect against the Sharks.

Drury is gonna cost a kings ransom. Definitely more than Datsyuk signed for so probably something in the $6.5-7mil range. Lots of teams desperate for a center (Rangers and Thrashers for example). Gomez will be a bit cheaper at the $6-6.5mil range.

Hannan would be great at $4mil, but I've got a feeling he'll get more like $5mil.

Shanahan will either retire or resign with the Rangers. The only other team he might consider going to is Detroit, but I doubt we want him.

Hartnell might be rough. He'll be the #2 winger on many lists behind Smyth and could land a $4mil contract over 5 years.

handtrick 05-10-2007 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by FissionFire (Post 9240286)
Suprised you guys wouldn't want Danny Markov back. I've been very impressed with his defensive and physical game this season and still wondering exactly why the Preds didn't want him back. Seems his nasty in-your-face style would have been perfect against the Sharks.

.

It is a shame that we never saw that side of Danny Markov that he has showed with Detroit or Philly for that matter.
The word was that he wasn't happy how he was being utilized here in Nashville, so I don't know how good of terms that he departed on with Poile/Trotz.

RaiderDoug 05-10-2007 07:38 PM

Personally, Im not looking for any huge names. We dont need to throw a dumptruck full of cash at Briere or Gomez.

I'd be very happy with upgrades of blue line and the 3rd and 4th line. I think with Erat, Radulov, Leggy, Arnott, Dumont, and a healthy Sully we should have enough firepower to score enough each night to win.

Take our cash and offer it to Hartnell, see if we cant coax Kariya to stay at a reasonable rate.

Then, work on finding replacements for Nichol, Tootoo, etc on those bottom lines. We stood toe to toe with San Jose's top 2 lines. We got mauled by Grier, Clowe, etc.

Then go out and get a veteran D-Man. Im not of the opinion that we need a big time #1. I think Weber is well on his way. But we do need a guy who is smart, steady, with a bit of size. Miller, Boynton, Hannan, Brad Stuart. I think Sarich would be a great pick up. You should be able to pick up a guy like that without breaking the bank.

barrytrotzsneck 05-11-2007 03:38 PM

*eklund alert*

"Apparently, Peter Forsberg said to team doctors in Nashville before he left, \"Hope to see you in September.\" Knowing Foppa, that is intersting. Peter doesn\'t lie.\\"

HBGamblers 05-11-2007 04:18 PM

PredDave makes the most sense out of all of you but let me say this, although Kariya didn't produce like he should of in the playoffs he didn't take a ton of penalties, Nashville lost because of too many penalties, Hartnell can be one of the guys blamed for this, also the hit on Cheechoo sparked all kinds of emotions in the series and also indirectly resulted in Radulov getting a game, which along with the piss poor goal Vokoun let in from the blue line by Rivet in game three is what turned this entire series around. Get rid of Hartnell now he has not been a difference maker for you guys in a good way. Keep Kariya and even Timonen if you can but not for 5 million. Get rid of Zidlicky as Weber has replaced him and more. Vokoun well time will tell, but this year didn't do him any favors, he was shaky and Mason wasn't. Forsberg is a dream I think so Nashville needs to make a blockbuster trade for a number one centre and rumors have Marleau available not sure anyone else out there is available who can be a number one centre, Drury is not a number one guy either. A number one Dman would definitely help but perhaps you already have him in Weber, give them time, I know you expected to win the cup this year but complain all you want but it was Vokoun, Nichol and Hartnell (and Sully's injury) who cost you in the playoffs, not the D or Kariya. Signing Kariya should be a priority simply because he was the first big free agent to sign there, show him some appreciation.

Kariya ??? Radulov
Sullivan Arnott Dumont

Sorry that leaves no room for Hartnell on the top two lines and he'll whine he should be on top two lines, see ya later.

barrytrotzsneck 05-11-2007 04:22 PM

Thanks for telling us what to think, mysterious stranger.

We shooooore do 'preciate it!

Rickety Cricket 05-11-2007 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by HBGamblers (Post 9250594)
PredDave makes the most sense out of all of you but let me say this, although Kariya didn't produce like he should of in the playoffs he didn't take a ton of penalties, Nashville lost because of too many penalties, Hartnell can be one of the guys blamed for this, also the hit on Cheechoo sparked all kinds of emotions in the series and also indirectly resulted in Radulov getting a game, which along with the piss poor goal Vokoun let in from the blue line by Rivet in game three is what turned this entire series around. Get rid of Hartnell now he has not been a difference maker for you guys in a good way. Keep Kariya and even Timonen if you can but not for 5 million. Get rid of Zidlicky as Weber has replaced him and more. Vokoun well time will tell, but this year didn't do him any favors, he was shaky and Mason wasn't. Forsberg is a dream I think so Nashville needs to make a blockbuster trade for a number one centre and rumors have Marleau available not sure anyone else out there is available who can be a number one centre, Drury is not a number one guy either. A number one Dman would definitely help but perhaps you already have him in Weber, give them time, I know you expected to win the cup this year but complain all you want but it was Vokoun, Nichol and Hartnell (and Sully's injury) who cost you in the playoffs, not the D or Kariya. Signing Kariya should be a priority simply because he was the first big free agent to sign there, show him some appreciation.

Kariya ??? Radulov
Sullivan Arnott Dumont

Sorry that leaves no room for Hartnell on the top two lines and he'll whine he should be on top two lines, see ya later.

you mean that piss poor goal that was shot through a screen and actually deflected by michalek? I thought the preds d let vokoun down.

predhead1 05-11-2007 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nomorekids (Post 9231876)
What about Shanahan? I know that he's looking to return to NY, and I know he was possibly the biggest Pred-Killer in history..but he'd add a great deal of size, scoring and leadership...

I think Shanny would be a great addition, but it doubt he wants to leave NY. He'd give us a little bit of everything we need: toughness, size, leadership, scoring. I'd easily take him over Kariya.

triggrman 05-11-2007 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaiderDoug (Post 9242663)
Personally, Im not looking for any huge names. We dont need to throw a dumptruck full of cash at Briere or Gomez.

I'd be very happy with upgrades of blue line and the 3rd and 4th line. I think with Erat, Radulov, Leggy, Arnott, Dumont, and a healthy Sully we should have enough firepower to score enough each night to win.

Take our cash and offer it to Hartnell, see if we cant coax Kariya to stay at a reasonable rate.

Then, work on finding replacements for Nichol, Tootoo, etc on those bottom lines. We stood toe to toe with San Jose's top 2 lines. We got mauled by Grier, Clowe, etc.

Then go out and get a veteran D-Man. Im not of the opinion that we need a big time #1. I think Weber is well on his way. But we do need a guy who is smart, steady, with a bit of size. Miller, Boynton, Hannan, Brad Stuart. I think Sarich would be a great pick up. You should be able to pick up a guy like that without breaking the bank.

I agree

BigFatCat999 05-12-2007 11:00 AM

I'd love Michal Handzus. Last year was a fluke with his injury. It was really his first major injury and because of that he will come cheap as a FA. He's got a great faceoff percentage, size, and would feed who ever will be his wings.

barrytrotzsneck 05-12-2007 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigFatCat999 (Post 9256194)
I'd love Michal Handzus. Last year was a fluke with his injury. It was really his first major injury and because of that he will come cheap as a FA. He's got a great faceoff percentage, size, and would feed who ever will be his wings.

He's not rumored to be coming cheap. An article a while back had quotes where he believes that BECAUSE of the fluky injury, he's still a 3-4 million dollar player.


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