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fredez 12-23-2003 10:34 AM

MTL Powerplay Units
 
I made this thread because I think that our second unit on the powerplay is absolutely awful. Juneau and Dackell are PK specialists not PP specialists.

Our #1 PP unit on the other hand is very good. We have two great playmakers in Ribeiro and Koivu and three great shooters in Souray , Dagenais and Zednik and we are scoring since we adopted this philosophy, proof = we are now 9th in the league !

So we have...
Playmaker-bold
Shooter-underlined

Behind the net- Ribeiro
On the circles-Dagenais and Zednik
On the blue line-Koivu and Souray

Using this same philosophy, our #2 PP unit should look like this :

Behind the net- ???
On the circles-Ryder and Bulis
On the blue line-Markov and Komisarek

Since there is no forward that could fill a playmaker role on the #2 PP unit I think that maybe we could put that forward in front of the net instead...

Front of the net- Kilger
On the circles-Ryder and Bulis
On the blue line-Markov and Komisarek

I think that this would be better than Juneau, Dackell and Gratton on the #2 PP, what do you think?

gohabsgo2010 12-23-2003 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fredez
Front of the net- Kilger
On the circles-Ryder and Bulis
On the blue line-Markov and Komisarek

Well, having a guy like Andrei Markov on our second PP is a blessing, so we've certainly got something to work with. I personally go with Sundstrom over JJ and Dax, but none of the three should be on the powerplay.

In Front : Ward
Circles to Corners : Ryder and Bulis
Blueline : Markov and Brisebois

Now not all these players are currently with the team, but I feel that's the best we can throw out on the PP, until than I like what you have. Hainsey is also an option.

fredez 12-23-2003 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jl.roberts
Well, having a guy like Andrei Markov on our second PP is a blessing, so we've certainly got something to work with. I personally go with Sundstrom over JJ and Dax, but none of the three should be on the powerplay.

In Front : Ward
Circles to Corners : Ryder and Bulis
Blueline : Markov and Brisebois

Now not all these players are currently with the team, but I feel that's the best we can throw out on the PP, until than I like what you have. Hainsey is also an option.

There is no doubt Ward can take Kilger's place when he returns.

But as for Brisebois replacing Komisarek, I'm not sure. I really liked the way Komisarek has used his wrist shot lately, he rarely miss the net. But just switching Brisebois as the playmaker and Markov as the shooter would be an improvment because Markov can easily replace Komisarek.

ngc_5128 12-23-2003 11:07 AM

In my eyes, right there now Julien is using a set 1st line, and is using the second PP line as a reward system, which would certainly explain the myriad of different faces. I like this system because pretty much every 'secondary' player that is having an especially good game gets some power play time. A good example of this was when he put Kilger, Langdon and Gratton on the PP for the last two minutes of the game last night (and almost scored a goal too, proving it works :p ). What does everyone else think of using the 2nd pp unit exclusively as a reward system?

Habber 12-23-2003 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fredez
I made this thread because I think that our second unit on the powerplay is absolutely awful. Juneau and Dackell are PK specialists not PP specialists.

Since when are Juneau and Dackell our 2nd PP unit? They had one shift on the PP last night and that's the only one I can remember them getting all year long.

It's obvious that CJ has loaded up the 1st PP unit by putting both Koivu and Ribs on it and is, as ngc mentioned, using the 2nd unit as a reward for good play. It seems to have been working lately so i say go with it.

I'll admit it was pretty sad to watch a cycle on the PP, but I can't see Ward, Ryder and Bulis as an improvement. As long as both QB's are on the 1st unit, the 2nd isn't going to accomplish a whole lot.

FTK 12-23-2003 11:34 AM

Souray-Koivu
Zednik-Dagenais
Ribiero

Brisebois/Komisarek-Markov
Ryder-Bulis
Ribiero

Ribiero doesn't play on the PK so let's give him a lot of PP time. Then everyone is going to stop whinning about Ribiero's icetime compared to Koivu's

Team_Spirit 12-23-2003 11:38 AM

Koivu should play the whole PP ....playing on the point don't take as much energy than deep in the zone so he could be centering the 2nd unit .

Capitano 12-23-2003 11:38 AM

I would put Koivu and Ribeiro on both PP units. Souray on one. Markov on the other. Dagenais and Zednik on one. Bulis and Ryder on the other.

Cap

Munchausen 12-23-2003 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jl.roberts
Well, having a guy like Andrei Markov on our second PP is a blessing, so we've certainly got something to work with. I personally go with Sundstrom over JJ and Dax, but none of the three should be on the powerplay.

In Front : Ward
Circles to Corners : Ryder and Bulis
Blueline : Markov and Brisebois

Now not all these players are currently with the team, but I feel that's the best we can throw out on the PP, until than I like what you have. Hainsey is also an option.

I agree with that combo. It's the best one we can get on the 2nd unit (if CJ doesn't want to use a player for the whole 2min.). Brisebois and Ward should be with the team after the holliday break so this could be experimented.

Anything to get Rivet out of the PP will be fine with me.

Joe Malone 12-23-2003 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ngc_5128
In my eyes, right there now Julien is using a set 1st line, and is using the second PP line as a reward system, which would certainly explain the myriad of different faces. I like this system because pretty much every 'secondary' player that is having an especially good game gets some power play time. A good example of this was when he put Kilger, Langdon and Gratton on the PP for the last two minutes of the game last night (and almost scored a goal too, proving it works :p ). What does everyone else think of using the 2nd pp unit exclusively as a reward system?

I like the idea of PP time as a reward, for individuals more than complete lines though. Since Julien is not afraid to sit players out for poor play, he may just as well reward players who play well.

Kilger, Langdon and Gratton on the PP for the last two minutes of the game last night......that may also have been Julien's choice of not "rubbing it in the Penguin's faces". No need to have the first PP unit out there in the dying minutes of a game that has already been decided. It would be like kicking 'em when they're down, and that can come back to haunt a team.

Corey 12-23-2003 02:05 PM

I can't see keeping Ribeiro on for 2 minutes. Too much skating involved for the position he would play. Very risky.

VirginiaMtlExpat 12-23-2003 10:44 PM

If you look at Atlanta PP minutes, you see that 3 forwards and 1 defender have the lion's share of minutes: Savard, Kovalchuk, Kozlov and Kaberle. So having 2 among Koivu, Ribs and Souray out there for much of it is feasible. The rest of 'em can split time on the two units on a merit basis. If the PP is clicking with those 3, I would make the most of it while the magic lasts...

Medicine Twin 12-24-2003 02:49 AM

I'm not a huse fan of Brisebois' overall game but, despite the stats, he IS our QB. He sees the play better than any of the other D-men on this team, makes good hard timely passes, etc.. He'll be on the #1 unit when he comes back. Koivu is better suited for setting up down low.

#1 Zednik - Koivu - Ryder ---> Souray - Brisebois
#2 Bulis - Ribeiro - Dagenais ---> Markov - Koivu (?)

And maybe Sundstrom or Komisarek could be used on the second unit sometimes too.


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