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Dirk316 06-07-2007 12:39 AM

Will Fighting and Toughness now see a resurgence?
 
Now that the toughest team in the league, Anaheim Ducks have won the cup will this create some teams trying to pattern their style?

vivianmb 06-07-2007 12:44 AM

i hope so.

ReLyT 06-07-2007 12:49 AM

i also hope so...

Raoul Duke* 06-07-2007 12:52 AM

Agreed, I hope so too.

Wisent 06-07-2007 01:02 AM

I sure hope it doesn´t.

Dirk316 06-07-2007 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wisent (Post 9485876)
I sure hope it doesn´t.


:sarcasm: ?

Zoo 06-07-2007 01:15 AM

**** yeah long overdue

GernerPSU 06-07-2007 01:59 AM

All pro sports leagues are copy-cat leagues so yes, it will become more valued, but not by a whole lot. Another team will win next year with another unique build. Also, remind me how many fights there were this post season.

ShyCheetah 06-07-2007 02:16 AM

Personally I don't equate goonery, goalie crashing (so called toughness) with the sucess of the Ducks. I feel they won despite their toughness and not because of it. They won because of Neidemeir and their smaller skilled players. True they get a lot of room because of their team play.

Toughness in my opinion is not a knuckle dragging neadrathal swan diving on my goalie. To me toughness is a smaller guy standing up to that thug afterwards knowing he's gonna take a beating.

Dirk316 06-07-2007 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GernerPSU (Post 9486211)
All pro sports leagues are copy-cat leagues so yes, it will become more valued, but not by a whole lot. Another team will win next year with another unique build. Also, remind me how many fights there were this post season.


I'll remind you it wasnt the Ducks fault considering they tried to fight at least 6-7 times against unwilling players and they won the cup with 3 enforcers who all played at some point.:yo:

Dirk316 06-07-2007 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShyCheetah (Post 9486279)
Personally I don't equate goonery, goalie crashing (so called toughness) with the sucess of the Ducks. I feel they won despite their toughness and not because of it. They won because of Neidemeir and their smaller skilled players. True they get a lot of room because of their team play.

Toughness in my opinion is not a knuckle dragging neadrathal swan diving on my goalie. To me toughness is a smaller guy standing up to that thug afterwards knowing he's gonna take a beating.


Oh really? any Duck fan will tell you the team was at its best when they start throwing bodies around, fighting, and agitating.
They fed off the emotion of the tough guys.

multiball 06-07-2007 02:39 AM

Seems like only weeks ago all the chatter was about Buffalo's mid-sized, speedy, extremely deep team and how THAT was going to be the model of success in the new NHL.

As a Kings fan, I've got little love for the Ducks organ-I-zation and their long-suffering fans, but I do like me some Brian Burke for bringing back some truculence and bellicosity to hockey!

The Ducks weren't goons. 95+% of hockey fans would like to have their own team play physical AND be able to back it up like the Ducks did.



Although that Corey Perry is a real dooche nozzle and would find his middleweight yappy self looking like bloody spinart on the ice if he played for about 27 other teams... Aw what the Hell, congratulations to his Cup-lifting butt too...

LuigiStone 06-07-2007 04:53 AM

I sure hope so. Physical hockey > all.

8snake 06-07-2007 06:43 AM

Just to show you how fine the line is....if Franzen clears that puck in game 5 and Detroit ends up winning the series would someone still post this?

Obsessed Sharks Fan 06-07-2007 06:44 AM

getzlaf is a microcosm of the ducks as a team. lots of heart, highly skilled, and tough as nails--with a freakin badas$ attitude. he was yellin at everyone not to sit back today and i thought that was awesome.

Big Phil 06-07-2007 07:37 AM

In the first round vs. Minnesota there were a ton of fights. The Ducks killed thewm in that brawl.

Fighter 06-07-2007 07:50 AM

I hope the Ducks teach the other teams that you can be tough and a winner at a same time.

So good to be a goon team! :yo:

Laus723 06-07-2007 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShyCheetah (Post 9486279)
Personally I don't equate goonery, goalie crashing (so called toughness) with the sucess of the Ducks. I feel they won despite their toughness and not because of it. They won because of Neidemeir and their smaller skilled players. True they get a lot of room because of their team play.

Toughness in my opinion is not a knuckle dragging neadrathal swan diving on my goalie. To me toughness is a smaller guy standing up to that thug afterwards knowing he's gonna take a beating.

It's the Ducks fault Neil would rather have fought Scott Niedermayer than Thornton, May, or Moen?

Was a great series between to hard-hitting teams. The Ducks did a great job this whole season. Amazing how the winning teams always seem to 'run goalies.' Emery flopping backwards when Getzlaf runs into his flailing forearm doesn't equal a goalie being run...

MoreOrr 06-07-2007 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirk316 (Post 9485644)
Now that the toughest team in the league, Anaheim Ducks have won the cup will this create some teams trying to pattern their style?

Have your moment in the limelight, Dirk316.

Team toughness is definitely a requirement to be a winning team, but we all know that you're talking more than just toughness, I don't need to specify.

Wisent 06-07-2007 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirk316 (Post 9485931)
:sarcasm: ?

No, I prefer speedy, technical hockey with an emphasis on passing. I was not sarcastic.

Merlin401 06-07-2007 10:17 AM

BRING ON THE TOUGHNESS! If all teams were built like the Ducks, we'd have a pretty exciting league. Not many players on that team playing the European style are there? Two Euros and even Pahlsson is a tough player. Thornton, Parros, Moen, OBrien most of the year, Pronger, Beuchemin, Perry, Getlaf, Kunitz... yeah, THATS a fun team.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShyCheetah (Post 9486279)
To me toughness is a smaller guy standing up to that thug afterwards knowing he's gonna take a beating.

Lol, well, I'd rather be the bigger guy creaming the smaller guy 10 times out of 10. Oh yeah, and by the 7th game of a series, that "smaller guy" will be a shell of what he was before being banged mercilessly all series.

Reilly* 06-07-2007 10:23 AM

No, the Ducks didn't win because of toughness.

Laus723 06-07-2007 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reilly (Post 9488423)
No, the Ducks didn't win because of toughness.

You're right, it's all the conspiracy theory mumbo-jumbo. :teach:

Merlin401 06-07-2007 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reilly (Post 9488423)
No, the Ducks didn't win because of toughness.

Jacques Lemaire doesn't agree with you, but hey, what does he know?

http://www.twincities.com/wild/ci_59...nclick_check=1

You might have to subscribe, but he says: "Looking at where the league is going, it's going to be a little more aggressive. We went the other way for a while. The hitting was there. Now, it's a little more than that. You see the scrums after the play. They're pushing, fighting more. Every team will try that. Especially now that they see Anaheim doing so well. Everyone is talking about them. Everyone will take that road."

MoreOrr 06-07-2007 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reilly (Post 9488423)
No, the Ducks didn't win because of toughness.

Hey, don't just leave it at that... As it is, it's an empty statement.


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