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Beauty, eh? 09-30-2007 10:49 PM

The Official "Jason Labarbera is a terrible Goaltender" thread!
 
And before you flame me with your "it's only 2 games!" crap, let me explain -

Labarbera is not an NHL goaltender. He is not capable of performing as a number one goaltender night in and night out against the best competition in the world. It should be of no surprise that he performs admirably in the AHL, where the game isn't as fast as it is in the NHL.

His lateral movement is terrible. He is extremely slow going post to post. He tends to fall on his stomach in scrambles and therefore leaves himself way out of position and unable to recover for rebounds. He is a big guy, but somehow makes himself small in net (mostly by being too deep in his net).

I have been saying this guy isn't the answer to the Kings' problems in net since he played his first pre-season game for us and it became more clear to me than ever today where once again, every single shot against him had myself and the 6 other people watching the game with me thinking he was going to be scored on. Every Single Shot. And if fans feel that way about him, imagine how his team feels.

Bottom line - he's an AHL Goaltender at best. 'Nuff said.

Kingswin 09-30-2007 10:58 PM

I'll agree to this but what are the king's options right now, seriously? It is definately an interesting situation. I think with his performance today they are almost forced to keep up Bernier and keep on switching between the two. The kings have played a whole season with Dan Cloutier.. LaBarbara can not be worse

RAZZIE King 09-30-2007 11:02 PM

At least he's better than a beachball we sent down that isn't even worthy of ECHL status...

Just a few words that I hope this is just a rusty start that will go off to a decent finish... Still not quite where he should be at this level...but given time...he'd make a reliable backup...

Erika 09-30-2007 11:05 PM

Hey, just what happen to Jean-Sebastien Aubin ?! Wasn't he suppose to be the Starter ?

ExplosionsintheGine 09-30-2007 11:11 PM

I will flame you with the "it's only 2 games" crap...

Beauty, eh? 09-30-2007 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoadieJr78 (Post 10595533)
I will flame you with the "it's only 2 games" crap...

Ok, we'll see about that. I'll make sure to pull this thread up in April. Hell, I'll probably be pulling it up in December. Mark my words - within 2 years you will not see his name on an NHL roster.

supervillains10 09-30-2007 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoadieJr78 (Post 10595533)
I will flame you with the "it's only 2 games" crap...

+1

FanSince2014 09-30-2007 11:21 PM

Aubin 'has been' (and perhaps those are the operative words) an NHL goalie, #1 in Pittsburgh in the 99-00 season with 51 games, a 2.58 GAA and 91.4% save percentage.

HE can back up Bernier (LOL)

In The Flesh 09-30-2007 11:25 PM

I thought LaBarbera was the Monarches Goalie for you guys. Why play Bernier, he has a great game, then sit him? I don't get it.

FanSince2014 09-30-2007 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theMessiah1194 (Post 10595603)
I thought LaBarbera was the Monarches Goalie for you guys. Why play Bernier, he has a great game, then sit him? I don't get it.

They're concerned about giving Bernier too much, too fast . . . afraid of traumatizing the young lad, afraid it could hurt his 'development'. To me, he looks like he's already developed.

LombardiTool 09-30-2007 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theMessiah1194 (Post 10595603)
I thought LaBarbera was the Monarches Goalie for you guys. Why play Bernier, he has a great game, then sit him? I don't get it.


Posts like this are all over and drive me crazy. It is a very common practice to play different goalies in back to back games.

State of Hockey 10-01-2007 12:31 AM

It's only 2 games!

Sorry, I just had to because it's true.

Tadite 10-01-2007 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frolovfan (Post 10595715)
Posts like this are all over and drive me crazy. It is a very common practice to play different goalies in back to back games.


Yup, can't for the life of me understand why anyone would be stupid enough to play a goalie in back to back games this early in the season....


But add me to the list of the anti-Labarbera club.

I really just don't understand what his problem is. He knows this could be the last real chance he has of not only making a NHL roster but being a starter! And what does he do? Have a horrible terrible training camp and simply look unprepared.

I guess all that talk about how he needed to grow up and learn how to be professional was right... Because he certianlly isn't their now and maybe he lost his shot because of it.

He didn't earn his spot on the team.

Complaining Customer 10-01-2007 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beauty, eh? (Post 10595377)
And before you flame me with your "it's only 2 games!" crap, let me explain -


Isn't it only ONE game?!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beauty, eh? (Post 10595377)
Labarbera is not an NHL goaltender. (...)
Bottom line - he's an AHL Goaltender at best. 'Nuff said.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/...vLYF?year=2005

SC2008 10-01-2007 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beauty, eh? (Post 10595377)
And before you flame me with your "it's only 2 games!" crap, let me explain -

Labarbera is not an NHL goaltender. He is not capable of performing as a number one goaltender night in and night out against the best competition in the world. It should be of no surprise that he performs admirably in the AHL, where the game isn't as fast as it is in the NHL.

His lateral movement is terrible. He is extremely slow going post to post. He tends to fall on his stomach in scrambles and therefore leaves himself way out of position and unable to recover for rebounds. He is a big guy, but somehow makes himself small in net (mostly by being too deep in his net).

I have been saying this guy isn't the answer to the Kings' problems in net since he played his first pre-season game for us and it became more clear to me than ever today where once again, every single shot against him had myself and the 6 other people watching the game with me thinking he was going to be scored on. Every Single Shot. And if fans feel that way about him, imagine how his team feels.

Bottom line - he's an AHL Goaltender at best. 'Nuff said.

Is the sky falling too?

Umm...the Kings have their answer in Bernier. Labby is an adequate backup.


Kings Fans - How did Cloutier get the name Beachball? I think its hilarious.

Complaining Customer 10-01-2007 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SC2008 (Post 10596142)
Kings Fans - How did Cloutier get the name Beachball? I think its hilarious.

I think it's from that shot he couldn't stop:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2.../Beachball.jpg

kingsholygrail 10-01-2007 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Complaining Customer (Post 10596172)
I think it's from that shot he couldn't stop:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2.../Beachball.jpg

From the blue line no less?

Static 10-01-2007 01:32 AM

What a ridiculous thread. He has played one game, and a game in which he didnt receive much help from his team. None of the goals against him tonight were really his fault at all, but the result of poor defensive play and giveaways. Take a chill pill and wait for a slightly larger sample size before taking the pitchforks and torches out of the closet.

Dolemite 10-01-2007 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beauty, eh? (Post 10595377)
And before you flame me with your "it's only 2 games!" crap, let me explain -

Labarbera is not an NHL goaltender. He is not capable of performing as a number one goaltender night in and night out against the best competition in the world. It should be of no surprise that he performs admirably in the AHL, where the game isn't as fast as it is in the NHL.

His lateral movement is terrible. He is extremely slow going post to post. He tends to fall on his stomach in scrambles and therefore leaves himself way out of position and unable to recover for rebounds. He is a big guy, but somehow makes himself small in net (mostly by being too deep in his net).

I have been saying this guy isn't the answer to the Kings' problems in net since he played his first pre-season game for us and it became more clear to me than ever today where once again, every single shot against him had myself and the 6 other people watching the game with me thinking he was going to be scored on. Every Single Shot. And if fans feel that way about him, imagine how his team feels.

Bottom line - he's an AHL Goaltender at best. 'Nuff said.


Would you rather have Cloutier back?

He is a #1. Besides, it's only two games that were played half way around the world.

Beauty, eh? 10-01-2007 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dolemite (Post 10596216)
Would you rather have Cloutier back?

Yes, in fact. I would.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dolemite (Post 10596216)
He is a #1.

:biglaugh:

Beauty, eh? 10-01-2007 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Static (Post 10596182)
What a ridiculous thread. He has played one game, and a game in which he didnt receive much help from his team. None of the goals against him tonight were really his fault at all, but the result of poor defensive play and giveaways. Take a chill pill and wait for a slightly larger sample size before taking the pitchforks and torches out of the closet.

Tell me, what exactly has he proven in his three training camps with the Kings?

Beauty, eh? 10-01-2007 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tadite (Post 10596027)

I really just don't understand what his problem is. He knows this could be the last real chance he has of not only making a NHL roster but being a starter! And what does he do? Have a horrible terrible training camp and simply look unprepared.

I guess all that talk about how he needed to grow up and learn how to be professional was right... Because he certianlly isn't their now and maybe he lost his shot because of it.

He didn't earn his spot on the team.

Bingo.

Eighty-sixed 10-01-2007 02:16 AM

*shrugs*

He may not win the Vezina, but he's part of our 3-man tandem. Might as well support the guy and hope for the best instead of calling for his head after every loss.

I'm sure Bernier and Aubin will get their games too. We'll have a better picture of the odd man out after 10-15 games.

EDIT: I would also like to point out that his style does indeed look uncomfortable, but that isn't a bad thing. He's not your typical butterfly goaltender from Quebec. He plays a much more stand-up style, which isn't as fluid or "crisp" looking as a Bernier/Garon/Huet type netminder. So don't worry too much when he starts acting goofy. He has his own style, and as people have mentioned...it works pretty well.

Complaining Customer 10-01-2007 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beauty, eh? (Post 10596253)
Tell me, what exactly has he proven in his three training camps with the Kings?

Didn't he win 8 of the first 9 games he started in 2005? Wasn't he like top-3 in the league during that time, and very good until he had some bad news in his personal life? And didn't he finish that year, after some terrible times everybody will admit it, on a very positive note, with two victories in his last two games, shuting out the Sharks in his last, and maintaining a S% of close to .990 in his last three? .975 in his last four?

I don't know about what he didn't prove in his training camps with the Kings, but to me he proved he could play in this league,... you know, during the hockey season.

WhatTheFox 10-01-2007 02:38 AM

Illya Bryzgalov sucks too then; that f'in scrub! If Labs is purely an AHL goalie, then does that make our defense ECHL caliber?

Seriously, I'd give it more than ONE game before declaring him trash...


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