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CaNucK10 10-06-2007 03:51 AM

whats the possibilities?
 
whats the possibilities of a 13-14 year old kid making it to the NHL with no ice hockey exp, no league exp, pretty much nothing but sick stick handling and the ability to skate but not stop,skate backwards?(i really wanna see these opinions)

Crosbyfan 10-06-2007 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by CaNucK10 (Post 10665069)
whats the possibilities of a 13-14 year old kid making it to the NHL with no ice hockey exp, no league exp, pretty much nothing but sick stick handling and the ability to skate but not stop,skate backwards?(i really wanna see these opinions)

They are almost 0 if he's a phenomenal athlete. If she's not, they are 0.

Backstrom #19 10-06-2007 07:28 AM

It's not imposible but it is gonna be hard, jus work your ass off, that is the best advice i can give you.

Trepanated 10-06-2007 09:23 AM

Statistically speaking, the odds of such a kid making the NHL on merit are about the same as the odds that he will win the lottery enough times to buy a franchise outright, and force the coaching staff to put him in the lineup.

BuddehJuS 10-06-2007 11:17 AM

Jovo started at 14.

MikeD 10-06-2007 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CaNucK10 (Post 10665069)
whats the possibilities of a 13-14 year old kid making it to the NHL with no ice hockey exp, no league exp, pretty much nothing but sick stick handling and the ability to skate but not stop,skate backwards?(i really wanna see these opinions)

I would put your odds at about 4,373,271 to 1 :biglaugh: With some serious skilled coaching and the heart/drive to get there.....around 120,000 to 1

Ducks 10-06-2007 01:58 PM

You should play hockey because it's fun, not to get into the NHL someday.

Injektilo 10-06-2007 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BuddehJuS (Post 10666679)
Jovo started at 14.



I thought it was 11.

And the odds are still against someone at that age, even if they're a natural athlete whom nature has blessed. Hell, if you're not a natural athlete at age 4, you're pretty much screwed.

CaNucK10 10-06-2007 02:32 PM

lol haha

brother52 10-06-2007 03:01 PM

I would say zero. Alexei Morozov (arguably the best player in Russia, played in NHL as well) was asked a similar question recently. He basically said that for a pro career you have to become good before 12, because of how human mind and body grow and work.

There're a few players who started to train pro late (like Fetisov, who's been accepted to a hockey school at 11.) But that's not 14, and they all skated and played before, even if on an outdoor rink.

BaconStrips 10-07-2007 10:48 AM

The hardest part will be the skating. It will take one or two years before it becomes fluid and natural to be on the ice. By this time you are 16, and have missed the boat for being drafted (you would already have been scouted by someone at 14). You could always walk onto an ECHL or some such and work your way up.

LilWinger11 10-07-2007 12:26 PM

I'd agree with whoever said not to start hockey with the goal of playing in the NHL. Your odds of making it starting as a teenager are incredibly slim, but if you look at the number of kids who play hockey, even rep hockey, versus the number of players in the NHL, the odds are terrible no matter how old you start. It's like asking if your odds of winning the lottery go down if you buy a ticket after 4:00pm (they don't, AFAIK, but work with me here)- even if they do, the odds were so bad anyway that statiscally the difference is almost insignificant.

But if you just think playing hockey looks like fun and you'd like to try it, go ahead! I started eighteen months ago at age 24 and I love it. I figure skated competitively for almost fourteen years before I started hockey, so I had a bit of an advantage once I got used to the hockey skates. Skating forward and backward is a good start; you'll also want to know how to do a hockey stop, how to turn from forward to backward to the right and left, how to pivot backward to forward right to left and left to right, and how to do forward and backward crossovers both directions. Your local rink probably has an intro to hockey/learn-to-skate class where they teach this kind of stuff to get you ready for the lowest house league.

clawfirst 10-07-2007 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CaNucK10 (Post 10665069)
whats the possibilities of a 13-14 year old kid making it to the NHL with no ice hockey exp, no league exp, pretty much nothing but sick stick handling and the ability to skate but not stop,skate backwards?(i really wanna see these opinions)

If you are 6 foot 8, 250 pounds and a great athelete, id say not impossible.
Cory Cross( ill never mension this name again) didnt start untill college, the team coach saw him on campus and put him on skates

XweekendwarriorX 10-07-2007 06:14 PM

If your honestly not playing hockey by the age of 10 than theres no chance. at age 12 i was scouted by junior teams and prep schools and i asked if i was the youngest and they said no they like to scout kids at ages of 9 and 10 and see how they grow to the game and react in situations. and those scouts also pass on what they seen to NHL scouts helping make there job a bit easier. but the older you start the less likely you have a chance at the NHL.

Aaron Vickers 10-07-2007 07:30 PM

At what age did Cheechoo actually first step on the ice with any regularity? For some reason I am thinking early teens.

javorka 10-07-2007 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CaNucK10 (Post 10665069)
whats the possibilities of a 13-14 year old kid making it to the NHL with no ice hockey exp, no league exp, pretty much nothing but sick stick handling and the ability to skate but not stop,skate backwards?(i really wanna see these opinions)

Don't wanna burst your bubble, but...the sheer number of guys working to get to the NHL makes the chances of actually getting there slim - even for the very strongest players. But it's not impossible! I'm sure there are a lot of players who were told they'd never make it to the big league and did! You just need a tonne of determination! :thumbu: Get yourself to the rink!!!

FiveThreeEmptyNet 10-08-2007 10:49 PM

not so simple - it depends
 
If that 13-14 year old:
  • is an elite athlete
  • has access to constant (almost daily) ice time
  • finds top competition to play with in two years
  • has a one-in-a-hundred burning desire and REALLY wants it
  • is extremely mentally tough
  • is 6' or taller
then you have a much different scenario than the "one-in-a-million" implied by several of the other answers.

Even then the odds aren't very good, but I would believe it if most of these criteria were met.

For everyone that says they want to play in the NHL, I'm guessing 98% wouldn't like it at all. Of course these folks don't even get close so it is a moot point, but I personally can think of several better ways to earn a buck.

Nosebleed Section 10-08-2007 11:04 PM

The odds of someone playing Bantam AAA are really ******. Honestly though realistictly I would say no chance in hell ever. Play for fun.

Didn't Roy start playing reallly late too?

Bridges31 10-09-2007 10:01 PM

Just have fun with it, and don't think about going pro. Just go as far as you can. I had never skated in my life before my freshman year of high school, and I just one day decided to play goalie (15yrs old) I ended up starting my junior and senior year and going to play at the Verizon Wireless Arena (Manchester, NH) in the division finals my senior year. I missed all-state by 1 vote. My point is just have fun with it and you never know what will happen :)

CaNucK10 10-09-2007 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bridges31 (Post 10709270)
Just have fun with it, and don't think about going pro. Just go as far as you can. I had never skated in my life before my freshman year of high school, and I just one day decided to play goalie (15yrs old) I ended up starting my junior and senior year and going to play at the Verizon Wireless Arena (Manchester, NH) in the division finals my senior year. I missed all-state by 1 vote. My point is just have fun with it and you never know what will happen :)

good idea!

RangersMoogle 10-10-2007 11:44 AM

I was thinking yesterday, everyone used to say that if you weren't playing hockey or skating before you were six there was no chance of you making the NHL. But training regimens, and resources for learning the game of hockey have come a long way even in the past ten years. So, I think it's feasible for someone who starts at the age of 14 to make the NHL, you just have to be constantly skating, studying the game, and training. Might want to drop out of school, too. But, I don't think it's impossible.

But yeah, don't think about getting in the NHL. If you want to get good, work at it, work hard, get as far as you can, and stay in school.

Nbr-17 10-10-2007 12:54 PM

Peter Zezel didn't start playing hockey until he was in his teens.
It can be done ;)

TopProspect91 10-10-2007 06:01 PM

Heard that Tkachuk didn't start playing hockey till he was 16!

Rem 10-10-2007 06:56 PM

I heard Cheechoo started in his teens as well, but reading some bio's state otherwise. He actually never played in an organized league with travel, coaching, and what not until he was 14.

NCAA Hockey Fan 10-10-2007 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ncarbtpmo (Post 10665877)
Statistically speaking, the odds of such a kid making the NHL on merit are about the same as the odds that he will win the lottery enough times to buy a franchise outright, and force the coaching staff to put him in the lineup.

That's about the same odds as anybody making it to the NHL.:D


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