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NYRSinceBirth 10-12-2007 03:32 AM

Skates for a new skater.
 
OK, I'm looking to get back in the game after a looooong stint off the ice (Not as long for roller hockey). I'm 19, so figure at least 10-12 yrs off ice, 4-3yrs since I played roller hockey religiously. I started roller skating again, and I'm getting the hang of it. Luckily, I know the owners of a rink, so hopefully I can see some serious ice time and maybe get some lessons for cheaper.

I wasn't always the best skaters, decent speed, decent agility, horrible stopper about sums me up. Also, I have really messed up an ancle between football and wrestling (Broken leg, broken ancle, numerous sprains). Although my ancle probably won't ever be 100% again, I'm going to work through it.

I don't really know where to look. I was considering investing a good amount of money into the skates, since it's the only thing between me and the ice (similar to a car and tire ya know?). I've heard some good things about the Graf 707s, especialy with my ancles. Any other suggestions/good places to look? Any reccomendations? I'm looking for somehting comfortable to at least help ease any discomfort I MAY have. Like I said, I havn't skated in a WHILE, my ancles might turn out to not even be a problem.

Vikke 10-12-2007 05:44 AM

I'm in love with my CCM Vector from last year,.

brymel 10-12-2007 06:33 AM

Spend as much as you can on skates and helmet. That is the only two places I never scrimp for my son as they can have the most effect. Go try them on. My son wears the new CCM Vectors and loves them. They are more for a wider foot. I have never heard good things about the Grafs, but that doesn't make them good for you. Again, go try on all of the skates until you find ones that work.

TopProspect91 10-12-2007 07:04 AM

If you have bad ankle's trying getting into some RBK pumps. I broke my ankle recently so my left ankle was not that strong. I decided to go with RBK pumps and they held my ankle in place perfectly and I felt no pain whatsoever.

Any of the RBK pumps will work (5K, 7K, or 9K). If your looking for a great skate at a great price, go for the 7K's. About $200 less then the 9K's and you get pretty much the same thing as the 9K's except for the weight of the 9K (but the 7K is still freakin' light).

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lotus 10-12-2007 07:11 AM

Be careful on skates. I hear a lot of the time the top of the line, although obviously made of more expensive products thus lighter and perform better in whatever ways, sacrifice durability. A guy I know who owns a pro shop around here says everyone he sells a one90 skate to, comes back for new skates a few months later. They just fall apart.

I go mid-range on skates, just to be safe. And if I don't like them a ton, I can upgrade in a year without feeling bad that I blew $500+ on skates that time last year.

I reccomend trying on, and walking around in a pair of CCM Vectors, Bauer Vapors (own the XXII's myself), and Easton (Particularlly the Stealth line...it fits your foot in a very unique way, so give it a shot, you might love it). Make sure you don't have too much ankle movement. I really recommend a pro shop if it's been a while. They will bake them for you too if you ask, which will make it significantly less painful to break in since you haven't skated in a while.

Again, I strongly recommend trying on CCM Vectors, Bauer Vapors, and Easton Stealths.

take note that the Vectors don't have as stiff a boot as the Vapors or Stealths (Vapors being more stiff than Stealths), at least that's what I find. This way you kind of know what you like when you try something on that feels good to walk around in.


*also, I own a pair of RBK 5k Inlines, same boot as the Ice would have it. No complaints.

xeric716x 10-12-2007 07:36 AM

Bauer Vapors XXV

Ti-girl 10-12-2007 09:51 AM

This isn't going to help much, but go find what fits you. I wear RBK 9Ks' but I also have a freakishly small heel and ankle. And I had to get kids skates built up.

kingstonmike 10-12-2007 11:23 AM

Graf 707
 
I skate in the 707's and they really are a different breed of animal from most skates. The Mission supple fit concept is pretty much the same (which is what I came from).

I'm not the best skater in the world but I use my edges like crazy and these skates allow me the freedom to do that. I'm a small guy at only 5'5" and 150 lbs so I can't really flex the super stiff skates. The stiffness in the 707's is around your foot, not at the ankles.

I love these skates but, of course YMMV.

I broke my ankle last year btw, but I was not wearing these skates.

sc37 10-12-2007 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by lotus (Post 10742422)
Be careful on skates. I hear a lot of the time the top of the line, although obviously made of more expensive products thus lighter and perform better in whatever ways, sacrifice durability. A guy I know who owns a pro shop around here says everyone he sells a one90 skate to, comes back for new skates a few months later. They just fall apart.

I go mid-range on skates, just to be safe. And if I don't like them a ton, I can upgrade in a year without feeling bad that I blew $500+ on skates that time last year.

I reccomend trying on, and walking around in a pair of CCM Vectors, Bauer Vapors (own the XXII's myself), and Easton (Particularlly the Stealth line...it fits your foot in a very unique way, so give it a shot, you might love it). Make sure you don't have too much ankle movement. I really recommend a pro shop if it's been a while. They will bake them for you too if you ask, which will make it significantly less painful to break in since you haven't skated in a while.

Again, I strongly recommend trying on CCM Vectors, Bauer Vapors, and Easton Stealths.

take note that the Vectors don't have as stiff a boot as the Vapors or Stealths (Vapors being more stiff than Stealths), at least that's what I find. This way you kind of know what you like when you try something on that feels good to walk around in.


*also, I own a pair of RBK 5k Inlines, same boot as the Ice would have it. No complaints.

Well I'd say generally top end skates would last longer since they are stiffer and would more likely stay stiff after wearing them for a while with the materials. I think with the durability problems, it's just defective or manufacturing problems cause I do see those one90s break off at the tendon guard but the boots. I'm sure with the same repetitive problem, they'll fix it....and other than that I've heard nothing else about the skate being horrible.

But anyways do try on skates as all fit very differently and you'll regret it if you are dead set on 707s or whatever and buy them without trying them. But with Graf and most other companies, you can find quite a few different fits so try on other models. And do buy as much skate as you can afford as someone said above.

newfish 10-12-2007 01:19 PM

CCM tacks are great skates. If you can find Vapor XX, they are also good. Havent tried RBK yet, how are they. Do they feel like Vectors? Just dont go to Easton, they suck at everything!! Ha ha

lotus 10-12-2007 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sc37 (Post 10744529)
Well I'd say generally top end skates would last longer since they are stiffer and would more likely stay stiff after wearing them for a while with the materials.


Right, but if you're on a budget and if you spend $500 on skates, and they need to last you over a year... I'd still say it's unwise. To each their own though, I guess I just play it safe when it comes to skates. If you're gonna go all out on one piece of equipment, this would be it.

brymel 10-12-2007 03:52 PM

Quote:

A guy I know who owns a pro shop around here says everyone he sells a one90 skate to, comes back for new skates a few months later. They just fall apart.
My son skated in the Bauer one90's, and there is a problem with the bracket that holds the blade. It cracks. They will replace it, but that might be what the guy who owns the pro shop is talking about. He loved the skates.

Toonces 10-12-2007 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ti-girl (Post 10743464)
This isn't going to help much, but go find what fits you.

I wouldn't say it's not going to help much, because it's very good advice. Always buy what fits your foot the best. Sure, you can get advice on how durrable the skate may be, or common problems people may have with a particular model, but it's impossible to predict how a skate will fit unless you try it on yourself. I happen to really like the concept of the current crop of Eastons, but I can only wear Bauer. Thankfully I also really like the idea behind the One90's.

As for the One90's, the main issues with them have already been adressed by you all, the tendon guards, and the material in the LS2 Power blade holders being too stiff and prone to cracking. As for how durrable the rest of the skate is, everybody who I have talked to that has been skating in them for a while say the skate is an absolute beast.

Anyway, kingstonmike is right, the 707's are a very different skate. I actually had a pair, liked how the boot fit comfort wise, but it just didn't support me where I needed it. It's definatly worth trying on, it might do the trick for you, but just remember that everything will fit a little differently, and it's definatly worth trying on everything you can.

Oh, and it's worth visiting modsquadhockey.com as well, an incredible forum on hockey equipment with some very good posters

lotus 10-12-2007 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Toonces (Post 10747752)
I happen to really like the concept of the current crop of Eastons, but I can only wear Bauer.

My thoughts pretty much and why I suggested he trys the Eastons out. Very unique fit and they shouldn't be overlooked, just cause of how different they feel. Never know, ya might love it.


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