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Red Horner* 01-14-2004 09:57 AM

Will Pierre Hedin Turn Into our Brian Rafalski
 
Can this rearguard become our Rafalski, played in Scandinavia untill his mid-twenties, not big but highly skilled, smart in positioning himself to make up for lack of size in the defence zone. Quinn says he's better qualified to play in the NHL than the AHL, I have seen over the years in many sports where the player has more success at the top level, hopefully Hedin will be one of those players. Can his overall skill level and intellegence on the ice let him excell at this level like Rafalski. :dunno:

Verbal Kint* 01-14-2004 10:24 AM

:handclap: A positive post by Red Horner! Congrats REd.

And I think he could, from what I saw last night he has good skills he seemed a bit uncomrtable with the puck, but was playing smart the whole game. Give him a few games to get adjusted then shove Jackman's but out and onto the curb.

wasting time 01-14-2004 10:33 AM

What's this OUR stuff?

sundaystar 01-14-2004 05:26 PM

I think he is going to be our Kim Johnsson [Philadelphia]


Kim Johnsson HT: 6-1 WT: 205

2003-04 Philadelphia NHL 43 4 12 16 +1 22 113 3.54
2002-03 Philadelphia NHL 82 10 29 39 +11 38 159 6.29
2001-02 Philadelphia NHL 82 11 30 41 +12 42 150 7.33
2001-02 Team Sweden Olympic 4 1 1 2 -2 0 7 14.29
2000-01 NY Rangers NHL 75 5 21 26 -3 40 104 4.81
1999-00 NY Rangers NHL 76 6 15 21 -13 46 101 5.94
1998-99 Malmo IF Swe 49 9 8 17 - 76 - -
1997-98 Malmo IF Swe 45 5 9 14 - 29 - -
1996-97 Malmo IF Swe 49 4 9 13 - 42 - -
1995-96 Malmo IF Swe 38 2 0 2 - 30 - -
1994-95 Malmo IF Swe 13 0 0 0 - 4 - -
1994-95 Malmo IF Swe Jr. 29 6 15 21 - 40 - -
1993-94 Malmo IF Swe 2 0 0 0 - 0 - -
1993-94 Malmo IF Swe Jr. 14 5 3 8 - 14 - -
Total NHL 358 36 107 143 +8 188 627 5.74
Total Swe 196 20 26 46 - 181 - -
Total Swe Jr. 43 11 18 29 - 54


Pierre Hedin HT: 6-1 WT: 198

2003-04 Toronto NHL 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 0.00
2003-04 St. John's AHL 38 5 10 15 +4 28 71 7.04
2002-03 MoDo Hockey Swe 46 8 14 22 - 32 - -
2001-02 MoDo Hockey Swe 39 7 9 16 - 20 - -
2000-01 MoDo Hockey Swe 46 5 8 13 - 59 - -
1999-00 MoDo Hockey Swe 48 9 5 14 - 36 - -
1998-99 MoDo Hockey Swe 41 6 5 11 - 28 - -
1997-98 MoDo Hockey Swe 29 2 1 3 - 26 - -
1997-98 MoDo Hockey SweJr. 7 1 6 7 - 10 - -
1996-97 MoDo Hockey Swe 19 1 2 3 - 6 - -
1996-97 MoDo Hockey SweJr. 20 6 11 17 - - - -
1995-96 MoDo Hockey SweJr. 29 6 8 14 - 34 - -
1994-95 MoDo Hockey SweJr. 21 0 3 3 - 20 - -
Total NHL 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 0.00
Total AHL 38 5 10 15 +4 28 71 7.04
Total Swe 268 38 44 82 - 207 - -
Total SweJr. 77 13 28 41 - - - -

:yo: :dunno: :teach:

Verbal Kint* 01-14-2004 05:28 PM

I'm fine with either!

leafaholix* 01-14-2004 05:37 PM

Pierre Hedin's situation is much more like Kim Johnsson and Dick Tarnstrom.

GoM 01-14-2004 05:38 PM

I was just waiting for your post, gph :p

leafaholix* 01-14-2004 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoM
I was just waiting for your post, gph :p

I haven't been able to post all day... error problem.

I attempted to post in this thread, but couldn't.

Verbal Kint* 01-14-2004 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by go pierre hedin
I haven't been able to post all day... error problem.

I attempted to post in this thread, but couldn't.

I also was wondering where you were.

Rand 01-14-2004 05:53 PM

I'll be more then happy if he becomes an offensive third pairing D-Man as I believe that to be his peak potential, though I might say #4 D-Man if I was to be wildly optimistic.

Having said that my expectations aresomewhere between saying that he will be an excellent AHL'er, but no more then an injury fill-in at the NHL level.
OR-
A #7 D-Man/PP specialist.

Ironic that my opinion seems to be on the pessimistic side given that I'm a big fan of Hedin.

Verbal Kint* 01-14-2004 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rand
I'll be more then happy if he becomes an offensive third pairing D-Man as I believe that to be his peak potential, though I might say #4 D-Man if I was to be wildly optimistic.

Having said that my expectations aresomewhere between saying that he will be an excellent AHL'er, but no more then an injury fill-in at the NHL level.
OR-
A #7 D-Man/PP specialist.

Ironic that my opinion seems to be on the pessimistic side given that I'm a big fan of Hedin.

Jeez Rand! Bad day? First you trash my McCabe thread and now Hedin? :joker:

I still think the guy has the potential to become a top 3 guy though that is optimistic.

leafaholix* 01-14-2004 06:00 PM

It's kind of depressing to have a mod who's so pessimistic.

Geese_Howard* 01-14-2004 09:06 PM

he'll be the next lidstrom! :yo:

ULF_55 01-15-2004 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tigerwilliams
1 game , 1 assist and he's the next LIDSTROM :dunno: he might not even be here by the end of the season let alone next rafalski :joker: , the leafs will pick up another 1 or 2 d-man by trade deadline so pierre orr will not be still with the team

Then again, it is only one game, and it could go either way.

Maybe he burns and crashes after the next game.

Maybe Quinn was right and he really belongs in the NHL games and makes Kaberle expendable.

I'd say chances are very good it is somewhere between. He has had success at the highest level outside the NHL, so it isn't like he's a Chartier or Kelly.


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