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Top Corner2 01-18-2004 03:40 AM

The habs #1 concern
 
I guess we all know this already, but this team lacks size.

Most posters here think we need to go out and get a power forward to play on the top two lines. That would be nice.

I think a more pressing need is to get more size on our shut-down line. While people here are talking about Doan and Morrow. The type of guy I think we need is a guy like Mike Ricci. Tough, gritty, hard working, a pain to play against and can chip in some important goals.

To me that's our #1 concern. A quality 3rd liner with sandpaper. Maybe it will end up being Begin, I would like another especially as we may lose all our third line next year.

vipergtsr404 01-18-2004 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Top Corner2
I guess we all know this already, but this team lacks size.

Most posters here think we need to go out and get a power forward to play on the top two lines. That would be nice.

I think a more pressing need is to get more size on our shut-down line. While people here are talking about Doan and Morrow. The type of guy I think we need is a guy like Mike Ricci. Tough, gritty, hard working, a pain to play against and can chip in some important goals.

To me that's our #1 concern. A quality 3rd liner with sandpaper. Maybe it will end up being Begin, I would like another especially as we may lose all our third line next year.


We don't need size we need guys like Kilger Dagenais and other's to use the size they already have

tipping point 01-18-2004 04:35 AM

I think Laperriere will be our third line centre next year...at least I hope.

4shelley4 01-18-2004 05:59 AM

Hi
 
What we need a is a gritty forward from the dub, someone that will be able to play with Ribs. Another question, was riberio laughing when he got slammed into the boards last night in the 3rd period?

Bud The Spud* 01-18-2004 06:15 AM

It seems every year the number one concern is size and nothing is ever done about it. The Habs are playing well lately though, so I guess it is not too big of a concern right now.

habsfansam 01-18-2004 06:56 AM

size at the forward position is NOT a prerequisite to winning a Cup, or even being a consistent contender... look at New Jersey. Huge d-men, but the forwards aren't of the massive bruising type (with the exception of one or two guys like Skrlac, etc).

Too much emphasis is put on having big PF players who are mean and can score, but looking at the playoffs it didn't help Vancouver to have Bertuzzi any more than if they'd had another very skilled forward. Play with what you've got, and if one develops in your organisation, GREAT! I think the fascination has clouded people's minds, even most NHL GMs... Montreal spent the entire 90s (with the exception of drafting Saku) searching for that BIG forward who plays hard, has a mean streak, and scores 30-40goals a year... what we ended up with were a collection of big guys with poor coordination who took dumb penalties (Chouinard, Higgins, Ryan, and Stevenson).

Trading for one is an absurd idea, because the value of these players is SO incredibly over-inflated and because the big guys who can score and are mean are incredibly rare. On the hotstove last night, davidson and strachan were both saying that every GM is looking for one, but there aren't 30 out there who can perform as fans expect. Ottawa doens't have one and they are great... nor does NJ... nor does Colorado.

We would become a much poorer team (prospect talent wise and probably NHL wise) if we were to successfully trade for a "true PF".

The success of the team is predicated on Julien creating a gameplan that works well for the people we have on hand, and for the guys that we can bring up from the minors. While i would love to have a 40-50goalscoring HUGE ass playing beside koivu, it won't happen... these threads are becoming a complete re-hash of how we might manage to trade yannick perrault for a PF, or who is one, or why ryder isn't one... etc. Be happy that we have a team that is playing team hockey, that plays tough against everyone even on a bad night (like last night vs. the rangers) and that that chemistry is likely to make us very dangerous in the playoffs.

Size is nothing compared to chemistry... NOTHING. Size doens't win games, scoring more goals than your opponent has been known to do so from time to time... ;) We don't need size, we need consistent performance our grinders and from our scoring lines. If the 3rd and 4th liners step up and play consistently, then we could be the hardest team to beat in the East, maybe the NHL. We need what every other NHL team needs for success, consistency.

BLONG7 01-18-2004 07:04 AM

Jersey is a team that has no powerforward per say, but they win the Cup! Grit,Heart, good coach,excellent goaltender, and they play a team game, whereby they have no 50 goalscorer but they have the CUP! The Habs are building some chemistry and confidence, they have a big defence corps and have a few forwards that occasionally use their size. I think BG will make the Habs bigger as he has already, by making a trade, it wont be a major deal but it will make the forwards bigger, a powerforward? Probably not... but a bigger forward! :yo:


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