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cupcrazyman 12-04-2007 09:28 PM

Best NHL Players By The Decade
 
1910-2000

i'll start with the

80's-Gretzky

Sensfanman 12-04-2007 11:04 PM

Edit: 40's Maurice Richard probably

50's Gordie Howe
60's Bobby Hull
70's Bobby Orr?
90's Mario Lemieux?

WHA Euro 12-04-2007 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by familyguyman (Post 11481168)
90's Mario Lemieux?

Or Hasek.

Sensfanman 12-04-2007 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WHA Euro (Post 11481270)
Or Hasek.

Good call, didn't think about the crease

arrbez 12-04-2007 11:58 PM

I'd still give the 90's to Lemieux, although Hasek was amazing.

arrbez 12-05-2007 12:04 AM

Just going from the modern era (~1930-present)

The 40's is probably the toughest decade to choose for me, and WW2 doesn't make it any easier.

30's: Shore (hm: Morenz)
40's: Max Bentley? Turk Broda? Syl Apps?
50's: Howe
60's: Beliveau or Hull, very strong arguments made either way
70's: Orr
80's Gretzky
90's: Lemieux (hm: Gretzky, Hasek, Jagr)
2000's: Brodeur

pitseleh 12-05-2007 12:08 AM

The forties are tough. Maybe Maurice Richard? Milt Schmidt deserves mention - he might have it without the war.

The 30's would definitely be Eddie Shore.

The twenties are tough again, maybe Morenz?

Quote:

Originally Posted by arrbez (Post 11481741)
Just going from the modern era (~1930-present)

The 40's is probably the toughest decade to choose for me, and WW2 doesn't make it any easier.

30's: Shore (hm: Morenz)
40's: Max Bentley? Turk Broda? Syl Apps?
50's: Howe
60's: Beliveau or Hull, very strong arguments made either way
70's: Orr
80's Gretzky
90's: Lemieux (hm: Gretzky, Hasek, Jagr)
2000's: Brodeur

Good list, I agree for the most part. For the 2000's I think a strong case could be made for Lidstrom. He's basically owned the Norris this decade (5/6).

arrbez 12-05-2007 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by pitseleh (Post 11481772)
The forties are tough. Maybe Maurice Richard? Milt Schmidt deserves mention - he might have it without the war.

I don't get the impression that the Rocket truly his his stride untill the 50's. He had his famous year in the 40's, but as great as it was, it was a year that was highly skewed by the war. His best seasons actually came later on in his career.

pitseleh 12-05-2007 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arrbez (Post 11481784)
I don't get the impression that the Rocket truly his his stride untill the 50's. He had his famous year in the 40's, but as great as it was, it was a year that was highly skewed by the war. His best seasons actually came later on in his career.

Yeah I agree. He had his 50 goal in 50 game season in 45 (as you said skewed by the war) then a Hart season in 1947. Other than that, unspectacular though.

Syl Apps is a good choice too. I think Ted Kennedy probably deserves mention as well.

The war really throws things off.

Nalyd Psycho 12-05-2007 12:17 AM

Milt Schmidt was the best player, Maurice Richard was the focal point.

TANK200 12-05-2007 12:18 AM

10's: Joe Malone
20's: Howie Morenz
30's: Eddie Shore
40's: Maurice Richard
50's: Gordie Howe
60's: Bobby Hull (hm: Beliveau)
70's: Bobby Orr (hm: Esposito, Lafleur)
80's: Wayne Gretzky
90's: Mario Lemieux (hm: Hasek, Jagr)
2000's: Nicklas Lidstrom

arrbez 12-05-2007 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pitseleh (Post 11481772)
Good list, I agree for the most part. For the 2000's I think a strong case could be made for Lidstrom. He's basically owned the Norris this decade (5/6).

Yeah, you're right. And by the end of the decade, it'll be a no doubter for Lidstrom unless maybe Crosby turns it up this year and wins the next few Art/Hart's (which isn't at all out of the question). I think Brodeur has already been eclipsed as the best goalie, while Lidstrom is still the best defender and going strong.

Sens Rule 12-05-2007 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arrbez (Post 11481784)
I don't get the impression that the Rocket truly his his stride untill the 50's. He had his famous year in the 40's, but as great as it was, it was a year that was highly skewed by the war. His best seasons actually came later on in his career.

Richard was likely the best player from around 1944 until Howe really came into his own in 1950 or 51.

What about the 2000's? That is the hardest decade. to choose... not just because it isn't over yet. Lidstrom is great but is he the best player of the decade? Brodeur perhaps? Sakic even?

pnep 12-05-2007 02:40 AM


1817-30

PlayerPOS"HHOF Monitor" PTS
Clint "Praying Bennie" Benedict G2468,00
Cy "The Cornwall Colt" Denneny LW2381,37
Frank "The Pembroke Peach" Nighbor C2210,23
George "Buck" Boucher D2062,70
Georges "The Chicoutimi Cucumber" Vezina G1946,00
Sprague "Peg" Cleghorn D1831,95
Cecil "Babe" Dye RW1784,40
Howie "The Stratford Streak" Morenz C1605,45
Eduard "Newsy" Lalonde C1510,98
Nels "Old Poison" Stewart C1347,41


1930-40

PlayerPOS"HHOF Monitor" PTS
Eddie "The Edmonton Express" Shore D2582,21
Charlie "Big Blue Bomber" Conacher RW1916,12
Harvey "Busher" Jackson LW1319,49
Bill Cook RW1266,68
Ebbie "Poker Face" Goodfellow C1224,85
Chuck Gardiner G1100,00
Cecil "Tiny" Thompson G1091,50
Francis "King" Clancy D1077,65
Marty "Goal-a-Game" Barry C1053,09
Frank "Raffles" Boucher C1051,21


1940-50

PlayerPOS"HHOF Monitor" PTS
Bill "The Mirror Man" Durnan G2124,50
Maurice "The Rocket" Richard RW1774,00
Turk "Old Slippery" Broda G1589,00
Frank "Mr. Zero" Brimsek G1414,00
Doug Bentley LW1369,50
Elmer "Nokomis Flash" Lach C1367,00
Bill "Cowboy" Cowley C1294,00
Jack "Black Jack" Stewart D1287,65
Max "Dipsy Doodle Dandy From Delisle" Bentley C1201,50
Sid "Bootnose" Abel C1161,00


1950-60

PlayerPOS"HHOF Monitor" PTS
Gordie "Mr. Hockey" Howe RW4007,50
Doug "Dallying Doug" Harvey D2583,90
Maurice "The Rocket" Richard RW2431,00
Jean "Le Gros Bill" Beliveau C2158,00
Jacques "Jake The Snake" Plante G2129,50
Terry "Ukey" Sawchuk G2047,00
Red "Cornflakes" Kelly D2026,00
Ted "Scarface" Lindsay LW1645,50
Bernie "Boom-Boom" Geoffrion RW1579,50
Dickie "Digging Dicker" Moore LW1461,00


1960-70

PlayerPOS"HHOF Monitor" PTS
Bobby "The Golden Jet" Hull LW3180,50
Stan "Stosh" Mikita C2995,00
Glenn "Mr. Goalie" Hall G2146,50
Gordie "Mr. Hockey" Howe RW1961,00
Pierre "The Bantam Bouncer" Pilote D1927,40
Jean "Le Gros Bill" Beliveau C1759,00
Frank "Big M" Mahovlich LW1481,00
Bobby "Number Four" Orr D1359,40
Phil "Espo" Esposito C1308,50
Johnny "China Wall" Bower G1301,00


1970-80

PlayerPOS"HHOF Monitor" PTS
Phil "Espo" Esposito C2673,00
Guy "The Flower" Lafleur RW2596,00
Ken "Octopus" Dryden G2487,00
Bobby "Number Four" Orr D2295,55
Bobby "Clarkie" Clarke C1952,50
Brad Park D1457,60
Denis "Baby Bear" Potvin D1410,95
Marcel "Little Beaver" Dionne C1404,00
Larry "Big Bird" Robinson D1316,80
Bernie "Barnyard" Parent G1308,00


1980-90

PlayerPOS"HHOF Monitor" PTS
Wayne "The Great One" Gretzky C5366,00
Ray "Bubba" Bourque D1987,05
Mike "The Boss" Bossy RW1796,50
Mario "Super Mario" Lemieux C1734,00
Jari "The Flying Finn" Kurri RW1709,00
Paul "Coff" Coffey D1647,10
Mark "Mess" Messier C1578,00
Grant "Coco" Fuhr G1117,00
Rod "Secretary of Defense" Langway D964,80
Michel "Gou" Goulet LW937,00


1990-00

PlayerPOS"HHOF Monitor" PTS
Jaromir "Jags" Jagr RW2642,00
Dominik "The Dominator" Hasek G2151,00
Mario "Super Mario" Lemieux C2139,50
Wayne "The Great One" Gretzky C1637,70
Ray "Bubba" Bourque D1633,20
Brett "The Golden Brett" Hull RW1408,45
Teemu "The Finnish Flash" Selanne RW1365,50
Ed "The Eagle" Belfour G1243,00
Patrick "St Patrick" Roy G1214,50
Steve "Stevie Wonder" Yzerman C1213,00

Nalyd Psycho 12-05-2007 02:45 AM

How is Eddie Shore not in the 30's? He won four harts that decade.

pnep 12-05-2007 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nalyd Psycho (Post 11482445)
How is Eddie Shore not in the 30's? He won four harts that decade.

oops
my bad


has corrected..

cupcrazyman 12-06-2007 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nalyd Psycho (Post 11481829)
Milt Schmidt was the best player, Maurice Richard was the focal point.

Legends of Hockey Milt Schimdt.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbEZf5AiIik

Kloparren 12-13-2012 07:30 PM

I'm gonna try do this for the 40s/50s, let me know who I missed. Obviously some of these guys were actual stars in the 40s or 60s so there's some overlap but they all retired after 55 or played at least ~5 seasons in the 50s:

Bill Gadsby
Ted Lindsay
Tom Johnson
Ed Litzenberger
Bert Olmstead
Todd Sloan
Fern Flaman
Maurice Richard
Harry Lumley
Earl Dutch Reibel
Max Bentley
Marty Pavelich
Ted Kennedy
Harry Watson
Bill Quackenbush
Emile Butch Bouchard
Bill Mosienko
Milt Schmidt
Kenny Wharram
Allan Stanley
Doug Harvey
Don McKenney
Dickie Moore
Bernie Geoffrion
Red Kelly
Terry Sawchuk
Marcel Pronovost
Leo Boivin
George Armstrong
Jean Beliveau
Andy Bathgate
Eric Nesterenko
Johnny Bower
Harry Howell
Tim Horton
Alex Delvecchio
Dean Prentice
Gump Worsley
Jacques Plante
Norm Ullman
Doug Mohns

40s excluding the ones mentioned above:
Edgar Laprade
Elmer Lach
Doug Bentley
Sid Abel
Woody Dumart
Gaye Stewart
Chuck Rayner
Jack Stewart
Roy Conacher
Turk Broda
Bobby Bauer
Bill Durnan
Bud Poile
Ken Reardon
Neil Colville
Frank Brimsek
Syl Apps Sr.
Bryan Hextall
Toe Blake
Clint Smith
Babe Pratt
Bill Cowley
Dit Clapper
Sweeny Schriner
Lynn Patrick
Flash Hollet
Lorne Carr
Syd Howe
Earl Seibert

VanIslander 12-13-2012 08:04 PM

The best non-Oiler in the 80's was clearly Raymond Bourque. That was the word back then.

The best non-Penguin in the 90's? Hasek for peak but for the decade? ... Sakic and Yzerman I'd say.

livewell68 12-13-2012 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VanIslander (Post 56524559)
The best non-Oiler in the 80's was clearly Raymond Bourque. That was the word back then.

The best non-Penguin in the 90's? Hasek for peak but for the decade? ... Sakic and Yzerman I'd say.

Hasek has 6 Vezinas and 2 Hart trophies for the 90's decade.

In the 90's it's

1. Jagr
2. Lemieux
3. Hasek
4. Sakic
5. Roy

LeBlondeDemon10 12-13-2012 10:33 PM

Let's not forget about Mikita for the 60's.

PhillyBluesFan 12-14-2012 07:25 AM

80s Gretzky
90s Hasek
00s Brodeur
10s Quick is the early leader

I Hate Chris Butler 12-14-2012 07:32 AM

90s Lemieux
00s Lidstrom

Lemieux has 2 Conn Smythes, 4 Art Ross wins, 2 Harts, and 2 Lindsays. That beats Hasek imo.

Lidstrom also has more Norris wins than Brodeur Vezina wins, and Lidstrom has a Conn Smythe.

Too early to tell since 2010.

TAnnala 12-14-2012 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arrbez (Post 11481741)
Just going from the modern era (~1930-present)

The 40's is probably the toughest decade to choose for me, and WW2 doesn't make it any easier.

30's: Shore (hm: Morenz)
40's: Max Bentley? Turk Broda? Syl Apps?
50's: Howe
60's: Beliveau or Hull, very strong arguments made either way
70's: Orr
80's Gretzky
90's: Lemieux (hm: Gretzky, Hasek, Jagr)
2000's: Brodeur

Does Lidstrom have any case over Brodeur in the 2000?

Fish on The Sand 12-14-2012 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TAnnala (Post 56532999)
Does Lidstrom have any case over Brodeur in the 2000?

I would think so.


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