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Sundin13 01-29-2004 07:54 PM

Fleury to Juniors
 
Source: TSN and HockeyRage

Penguins to send Fleury back to junior

Goaltender Marc-Andre Fleury is going back to his old junior club.

Sources close to the team told TSN that the Pittsburgh Penguins informed Fleury today of their decision to return him to the Cape Breton Screaming Eagles of the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League.

Fleury will be backing up goaltender Jean-Sebastien Aubin against the Tampa Bay Lightning tonight and will likely be sent down Friday.

Fleury, who led Canada to two straight silver medals at the World Junior Hockey Championship, was taken first overall by Pittsburgh in the 2003 NHL Entry Draft. In 21 games this season, he has a 4-14-2 record and a 3.63 goals-against average.

More to follow.

Thoughts?

The Lehner 01-29-2004 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sundin13
Source: TSN

Thoughts?

It's about freakin time.

BrianBurke 01-29-2004 08:02 PM

Yeah... it would be nice if the Penguins could put a half-decent team together before he comes back up.
Does them no good to end up with a totally ruined and shell-shocked goalie.
Just ask Hackett... it took years for him to recover after starting with the expansion Sharks.

Pwnasaurus 01-29-2004 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianBurke
Just ask Hackett... it took years for him to recover after starting with the expansion Sharks.

He recovered? :dunno:

Loup 01-29-2004 08:25 PM

Well, the Pens are going to save some big bucks. So that they can put it, well, nowhere, they're going bankrupt, are they not? Hopefully, this team will be moved to a hockey town.

Jacob 01-29-2004 08:27 PM

Like where?

craig1 01-29-2004 08:37 PM

Here's an idea.....before you declare a team is going bankrupt, look at report from the likes of Forbes, etc. who report projected professional sports franchise earnings as they do valuations of each team. Guess what? The Pens are one of the FEW...and I mean FEW NHL teams to break even or turn a profit on average over the last 3 - 4 years. You have teams hemmoraging money, but since they have yet to realize that fiscal conservatism is a must in today's NHL market, and are going for one last horrah! before the new CBA, they must be doing great! The Pens are in one of the better financial positions of any team in the NHL. They were proactive in getting rid of contracts that were unacceptable, unlike the majority of teams who are going to be forced to be reactive in the next couple years, causing an increase in cash burn rates. THIS IS BUSINESS 101 PEOPLE! HOCKEY IS A BUSINESS FIRST AND FOREMOST. THE MAJORITY OF OWNERSHIP DON'T LIKE TO BLOW MILLIONS SO THEY CAN ENTERTAIN YOU. THEY ARE IN THE BUSINESS TO MAKE MONEY OR SHELTER THEIR ASSETS. THE ONLY ONES WHO DO ALLOW THEIR TEAMS TO LOSE MONEY DO IT TO OFFSET CAPITAL GAINS IN OTHER AREAS. EVER HEARD OF THE JANUARY EFFECT IN THE STOCK MARKET????????? IT IS CAUSED BY SIMILAR REASONING AMONGST PRUDENT MONEY AND ASSET MANANGERS. The goal of most teams though is to profit via your entertainment, not entertain you with the wealth they have collected. Oh wait...........those who have being forced to give everything to those who don't because those who don't are uncapable/unwilling to get it for themselves.......SOCIALISM!

Jason MacIsaac 01-29-2004 09:07 PM

Don't expect Fleury to be given the #1 job, Houle has been the best goaltender in the league all year and if Fleury doesn't play well in his starts before the playoffs Houle will be given the green light intothe playoffs. Houle got this team where they are right now and I hope he is the go to man in the playoffs.

GodZillaAteMyZamboni 01-29-2004 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by craig1
Here's an idea.....before you declare a team is going bankrupt, look at report from the likes of Forbes, etc. who report projected professional sports franchise earnings as they do valuations of each team. Guess what? The Pens are one of the FEW...and I mean FEW NHL teams to break even or turn a profit on average over the last 3 - 4 years. You have teams hemmoraging money, but since they have yet to realize that fiscal conservatism is a must in today's NHL market, and are going for one last horrah! before the new CBA, they must be doing great! The Pens are in one of the better financial positions of any team in the NHL. They were proactive in getting rid of contracts that were unacceptable, unlike the majority of teams who are going to be forced to be reactive in the next couple years, causing an increase in cash burn rates. THIS IS BUSINESS 101 PEOPLE! HOCKEY IS A BUSINESS FIRST AND FOREMOST. THE MAJORITY OF OWNERSHIP DON'T LIKE TO BLOW MILLIONS SO THEY CAN ENTERTAIN YOU. THEY ARE IN THE BUSINESS TO MAKE MONEY OR SHELTER THEIR ASSETS. THE ONLY ONES WHO DO ALLOW THEIR TEAMS TO LOSE MONEY DO IT TO OFFSET CAPITAL GAINS IN OTHER AREAS. EVER HEARD OF THE JANUARY EFFECT IN THE STOCK MARKET????????? IT IS CAUSED BY SIMILAR REASONING AMONGST PRUDENT MONEY AND ASSET MANANGERS. The goal of most teams though is to profit via your entertainment, not entertain you with the wealth they have collected. Oh wait...........those who have being forced to give everything to those who don't because those who don't are uncapable/unwilling to get it for themselves.......SOCIALISM!

They are breaking even because of two things. The court order that said they had to, and the lack of a wealthy ownership group who can absorb even a small loss or pay top line players. Simply put, the Pens are toast if they lose even a small amount of $$$. Breaking even is only part of it. An old arena, no premium seating income, shrinking fan support, and no money to pay big name players are all contributing an uncertain future for the Pens. I'd hardly say they are in one of the better financial positions in the league.

craig1 01-29-2004 11:34 PM

So what you are saying then is that teams with all the amenities who lose #10 million to $15 million a year, every year are in better shape????.....seriuosly. I am not saying the Pens are in good shape, but I am saying that they are one of the few who aren't losing money hand over fist anymore. They got their house in order after the early 90's blunders made by Howard Baldwin.....like competing against himself for his own restricted free agents. They are not in the best position, but analyze them from a business perspective, and not a fan perspective. They are in much better shape than the majority of the league. AND NO OWNER IN SPORTS, NOT EVEN MARK CUBAN WANTS TO LOSE MONEY..........Cuban by the way was turned down when he sought part ownership of the Pens alongside Lemieux.

Buffaloed 01-30-2004 01:32 AM

There's already threads about this on the Game Night and Prospects Board. Please use them. We don't need another one here.


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