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Slick Cat 04-13-2008 11:32 AM

back to our roots
 
as I was watching the montreal game last night, they showed how Carboneau (sp?) and Muller, head coach and assitant coach, together raised the cup as players of the habs. Why have we not considered bringing back Maclean as a GM, with Skrudland as a coach, and Gord Murphy as an assistant. At least they have a history here, and it can't get much worse than the mess we have now.

J17 Vs Proclamation 04-13-2008 11:33 AM

You're right.

Gordon Brown isn't doing a great job as prime minister. I'll bring back Winston Churchill.

Georgia Panther 04-13-2008 11:37 AM

Well, according to Barry Jackson, who makes what Garrioch writes seem like the word of God, MacLean has expressed interest in the Head Coaching Job but would be a long shot to get it.

(Former Panthers coach Doug MacLean, out of the league this season, said Saturday he's interested in the job, but a reunion would be surprising.)

http://www.miamiherald.com/1262/story/493925.html

hoax15 04-13-2008 11:39 AM

That would be sick if MacLean came back, he would be perfect. I want to go back to our roots so bad.

Happy Girl 04-13-2008 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by J17 Vs Proclamation (Post 13624620)
You're right.

Gordon Brown isn't doing a great job as prime minister. I'll bring back Winston Churchill.

I'm in and I am raising your Winston Churchill with Thomas Jefferson.

In all seriousness, somedays I feel like this franchise is taking random shots in the dark. I would love to see a long term growth plan developed for this team, not just the revolving door of coaches/GMs. Our issues are deeper than that. We need a President/Director of Hockey Operations to serve as a go between for the GM and Cohen. someone with genuine hockey experience who understands what it takes to win hockey games. We need a sustainable farm system that produces NHL caliber players for the PANTHERS ONLY, none of this sharing with Buffalo stuff. We need someone to come in here and get rid of the country club atmosphere amongst the players. If we have a good system, designed to build a winning franchise, then we will have a better chance of getting a good coach/GM to want to come here.

Mogo 04-13-2008 11:44 AM

MacLean would be perfect. He actually demanded his players to give 100%. Also would be awesome to see him go nuts behind the bench again.

btw.. Is Skurdland still coaching, scouting or anything in the NHL? I havent seen him since his Flames days

Dread Clawz 04-13-2008 07:35 PM

I wouldn't mind bringing back MacLean as a head coach, but he is a horrible GM.

RCGP 04-13-2008 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Slick Cat (Post 13624593)
as I was watching the montreal game last night, they showed how Carboneau (sp?) and Muller, head coach and assitant coach, together raised the cup as players of the habs. Why have we not considered bringing back Maclean as a GM, with Skrudland as a coach, and Gord Murphy as an assistant. At least they have a history here, and it can't get much worse than the mess we have now.

Maclean was awful as GM. Skrudland's NHL coaching experience was for 2 seasons as an assistant and he was fired. I don't even know what Murphy has been doing.

It can get worse, it can always get worse.

pb1300 04-13-2008 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterBouw (Post 13633781)
I wouldn't mind bringing back MacLean as a head coach, but he is a horrible GM.

Lets not go that route. MacLean was not that good in Columbus at either position, so why bring him here, because he was our past coach? No thanks. Id rather go with someone who has a pretty good resume (Hartley) or someone who is widely recognized as being a possible up and coming coach (Cunneyworth). Maybe you can bring someone in (Murphy) to serve as an assistant coach.

Laus723 04-13-2008 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by pb1300 (Post 13635890)
Lets not go that route. MacLean was not that good in Columbus at either position, so why bring him here, because he was our past coach? No thanks. Id rather go with someone who has a pretty good resume (Hartley) or someone who is widely recognized as being a possible up and coming coach (Cunneyworth). Maybe you can bring someone in (Murphy) to serve as an assistant coach.

Or Laus. ;)

I'd have to agree. While I like that MacLean was able to do what he did in 96, I don't think he's the answer now. Didn't Oakland fire Art Shell too early however long ago, bring him back, then fire him again because it didn't come close to working?

pb1300 04-13-2008 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Laus723 (Post 13639091)
Or Laus. ;)

I'd have to agree. While I like that MacLean was able to do what he did in 96, I don't think he's the answer now. Didn't Oakland fire Art Shell too early however long ago, bring him back, then fire him again because it didn't come close to working?

Sorry, dont think you are qualified. :D Oh wait, let me not be disrespectful lol.

Laus723 04-13-2008 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by pb1300 (Post 13639163)
Sorry, dont think you are qualified. :D Oh wait, let me not be disrespectful lol.

:biglaugh: Nice!

You haven't seen my resume', you don't know what I know. I was just making a suggestion...it's a free country!

Dread Clawz 04-13-2008 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by pb1300 (Post 13635890)
Lets not go that route. MacLean was not that good in Columbus at either position, so why bring him here, because he was our past coach? No thanks. Id rather go with someone who has a pretty good resume (Hartley) or someone who is widely recognized as being a possible up and coming coach (Cunneyworth). Maybe you can bring someone in (Murphy) to serve as an assistant coach.

MacLean was a great coach, and he was fired prematurely, we all know that. There are others I would like to see come here before him, but if he was hired I definitely wouldn't mind that. I'm not one for sentimental attachments to former employees of the organization, but this has nothing to do with that. It has solely to do with the fact that he was a great head coach before in this league. One thing MacLean has over Cunneyworth is experience. We can speculate all we want about how Cunneyworth might be a great NHL head coach, but the fact is we don't know that for sure. I'd actually rather we give Cunneyworth a try, but just because someone is recognized as a top coaching "prospect", doesn't mean he is automatically going to make a good NHL coach.

pb1300 04-13-2008 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterBouw (Post 13640083)
MacLean was a great coach, and he was fired prematurely, we all know that. There are others I would like to see come here before him, but if he was hired I definitely wouldn't mind that. I'm not one for sentimental attachments to former employees of the organization, but this has nothing to do with that. It has solely to do with the fact that he was a great head coach before in this league. One thing MacLean has over Cunneyworth is experience. We can speculate all we want about how Cunneyworth might be a great NHL head coach, but the fact is we don't know that for sure. I'd actually rather we give Cunneyworth a try, but just because someone is recognized as a top coaching "prospect", doesn't mean he is automatically going to make a good NHL coach.

Im sorry...what I meant to say is that MacLean was bad in Columbus, not here. I know it didnt work out well for him at the end here, but thats not why I wouldnt like to see him back here. I just think Cunneyworth deserves the shot, and I also think Hartley is just a better coach than him.

mikefavata 04-13-2008 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by http://www.canada.com/edmontonjournal/news/sports/story.html?id=99862ee3-0739-4c03-aa4b-684e5ed5252c
WASHINGTON, D.C. Bobby Clarke isn't going to take out an ad in the Hockey News: Former general manager, only 58 years old, looking to get back in the business, will send references.

That's not his style.

"I don't think I've ever been a person who sold himself ... I couldn't operate that way," said the longtime Philadelphia Flyers GM who mutually left his job 18 months ago after 16 years in two different stints, with short stays in Florida and Minnesota, too. He's been an NHL player or a manager for about 38 of his 58 years.

Now he's keeping a low profile; again, not his style.

Clarke may not be in good spirits, because he's been meaningfully employed for most of his hockey life, but he's in good humour. When asked Fri-day how many points he had in his NHL debut, Clarke didn't have to think long.

"None. I don't think our team scored a goal in our four straight losses to the Blackhawks (1970-71)," said the Hall of Famer, who watched Alex Ovech-kin of the Washington Capitals get two points in his coming-out party, which was no surprise to Clarke.

I say hire Bobby Clarke as GM, let him pick the coach.


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