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WithOutPaperss 04-16-2008 06:42 PM

Two-Piece vs. One Piece
 
I know many people will just tell me that it's my own preference, but the matter of the fact is I like both almost equally. With the two piece I find it very easy to stick handle with but my shot is usually weak, but I very good accuracy. With the one piece I don't stick handle as well but my shot is harder and but a little less accurate.

The think I find most appealing about the two piece is that if I like the curve on the blade, instead of having to find a one piece stick with that curve everytime I want a new one, I can just transfer that blade to the next shaft I get.

So, what are other people's preferences and what do you think might be better for me.

Balmer15 04-16-2008 06:48 PM

get a two piece, stickhandlings more important than a shot, and the shot will come. The two piece would be more versitile, would you rather break a blade and pay 150 for a new stick, or 40 for a new blade?

PIMking 04-16-2008 08:53 PM

Or when you break your one piece you can put a blade in the broken end. Go one piece.

RobertKron 04-16-2008 08:57 PM

For most models, a tapered 2 piece and a one piece stick are the same thing.

MG91 04-16-2008 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MW (Post 13702814)
For most models, a tapered 2 piece and a one piece stick are the same thing.

Yea most of teh sticks out there are just fused two pieces

ex: Dolomite

Nosebleed Section 04-16-2008 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by PIMking (Post 13702615)
Or when you break your one piece you can put a blade in the broken end. Go one piece.

This is true, I also prefer a one peice becuase it feels more balanced. You buy a one peice and it feels all nice and balanced weight between blade and shaft but when you have a seperate blade and shaft I encounter some problems with a much heavier blade then shaft.

Flyboy34 04-16-2008 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PIMking (Post 13702615)
Or when you break your one piece you can put a blade in the broken end. Go one piece.

By flipping the shaft you will be flexing a segment of the shaft that wasn't meant for it.

kingpest19 04-16-2008 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Flyboy34 (Post 13706206)
By flipping the shaft you will be flexing a segment of the shaft that wasn't meant for it.

Not really. A majority of the "one piece" sticks on the market are fused shafts and blades. If you break the blade you can heat it up and pull out the blade and use it as a shaft. Its a pain but it can be done.

FromChaos22 04-17-2008 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by kingpest19 (Post 13706244)
Not really. A majority of the "one piece" sticks on the market are fused shafts and blades. If you break the blade you can heat it up and pull out the blade and use it as a shaft. Its a pain but it can be done.

The flex changes though.

PIMking 04-17-2008 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Flyboy34 (Post 13706206)
By flipping the shaft you will be flexing a segment of the shaft that wasn't meant for it.

LOL have you been to an IHL game most of the guys have Flipped shafts. I buy a one piece break it put a blade in it use it for roller hockey or a back up.

Darius Dangleaitis 04-17-2008 01:29 AM

one piece all day

droller* 04-17-2008 02:36 AM

one piece if you aren't paying for them, or price isn't an option.

two piece if you want something that will last a little longer, and you're a little more economic :)

RobertKron 04-17-2008 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by FromChaos22 (Post 13706914)
The flex changes though.

If you're putting a new tapered blade in at the point where the old one was attached, it won't change anything. Many "one-piece" sticks are basically a two-piece stick that has been painted after the blade was attached.

stick9 04-17-2008 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MW (Post 13708044)
If you're putting a new tapered blade in at the point where the old one was attached, it won't change anything. Many "one-piece" sticks are basically a two-piece stick that has been painted after the blade was attached.

Amazing how many people don't know that.

Go with a tapered shaft/blade set up. It's the best of both worlds. You get all performance of a one piece with the versatility of a two piece set up.

I actually prefer my tapered shaft/blade set up to the one pieces I own.

FromChaos22 04-17-2008 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MW (Post 13708044)
If you're putting a new tapered blade in at the point where the old one was attached, it won't change anything. Many "one-piece" sticks are basically a two-piece stick that has been painted after the blade was attached.

ok, sorry didn't understand that you were saying to put it in where the old blade was. All my one pieces aren't like that and the shaft actually gets thinner towards the blade, so if I were to put a new blade on, I would have to flip the stick upside down, and then the flex changes. Sorry!

RobertKron 04-17-2008 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by FromChaos22 (Post 13714868)
ok, sorry didn't understand that you were saying to put it in where the old blade was. All my one pieces aren't like that and the shaft actually gets thinner towards the blade, so if I were to put a new blade on, I would have to flip the stick upside down, and then the flex changes. Sorry!

Other than certain models, a lot of them are a tapered shaft, which, like you said, gets thinner towards the blade, with a blade in them, and then painted over. If you can get the broken blade out/cut off at the point where it is joined in, then you can get a blade for a tapered shaft, which is thinner than a standard blade, and insert it and it should be the same.

There are other ones that are truly made as one piece, and cutting those back to the point where a tapered blade can fit could change things up.

We'reGonnaWin* 04-17-2008 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dangelo37 (Post 13698394)
I know many people will just tell me that it's my own preference, but the matter of the fact is I like both almost equally. With the two piece I find it very easy to stick handle with but my shot is usually weak, but I very good accuracy. With the one piece I don't stick handle as well but my shot is harder and but a little less accurate.

The think I find most appealing about the two piece is that if I like the curve on the blade, instead of having to find a one piece stick with that curve everytime I want a new one, I can just transfer that blade to the next shaft I get.

So, what are other people's preferences and what do you think might be better for me.

I think your poor shot has more to do with the quality of shaft and flex. What sticks are you using?

Also, if people are still screaming "ONE PIECE STICKS ARE BETTAR TAHN 2 PICE!": See this thread: http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=498339

stick9 04-17-2008 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by FromChaos22 (Post 13714868)
ok, sorry didn't understand that you were saying to put it in where the old blade was. All my one pieces aren't like that and the shaft actually gets thinner towards the blade, so if I were to put a new blade on, I would have to flip the stick upside down, and then the flex changes. Sorry!

In addition to MW's response. You can usually see the fuse point on an one piece after a few uses. It's not far from the blade itself. It's more noticeable on some sticks then others.

Here is a tapered shaft. They are thinner at the connection point and longer in length then a standard.

http://www.hockeymonkey.com/easton-s...igripsr06.html

Here is an example of a tapered blade. Notice how low the connection point.

http://www.hockeymonkey.com/easton-s...ent-blade.html

Using these two together is the same as an Easton Synergy one piece stick.

FromChaos22 04-17-2008 05:03 PM

With my sticks, where it gets thinner, its solid (theres like a filling) , so you can't just stick a new blade in there, so either I am still confused about what you guys are saying, or I just didn't explain it correctly.

kingpest19 04-17-2008 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by FromChaos22 (Post 13717327)
With my sticks, where it gets thinner, its solid (theres like a filling) , so you can't just stick a new blade in there, so either I am still confused about what you guys are saying, or I just didn't explain it correctly.

Thats where the tenon from the blade is joined to the shaft. That can be pulled out in one way or another. If the blade breaks you have to pull the old tenon out to put a new blade in.

MG91 04-17-2008 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MW (Post 13708044)
If you're putting a new tapered blade in at the point where the old one was attached, it won't change anything. Many "one-piece" sticks are basically a two-piece stick that has been painted after the blade was attached.

Exactly, its going to be the exact same thing if you put it in where it was broken.

MG91 04-17-2008 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by FromChaos22 (Post 13717327)
With my sticks, where it gets thinner, its solid (theres like a filling) , so you can't just stick a new blade in there, so either I am still confused about what you guys are saying, or I just didn't explain it correctly.

Its the hard foam stuff. If you take it to a HS they can drill it out and put a blade in there.

WithOutPaperss 04-17-2008 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Delorme (Post 13716342)
I think your poor shot has more to do with the quality of shaft and flex. What sticks are you using?

Also, if people are still screaming "ONE PIECE STICKS ARE BETTAR TAHN 2 PICE!": See this thread: http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=498339

Right now I'm using a Bauer Vapor XVI with about 85-90 Flex. The only thing I dislike about tapered blade/stick is a lot of the sticks and blades I'm looking at aren't tapered, and some of the sticks I don't want are tapered.

stick9 04-18-2008 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FromChaos22 (Post 13717327)
With my sticks, where it gets thinner, its solid (theres like a filling) , so you can't just stick a new blade in there, so either I am still confused about what you guys are saying, or I just didn't explain it correctly.

That "filling" is used to cover up the seam.

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Originally Posted by Dangelo37
Right now I'm using a Bauer Vapor XVI with about 85-90 Flex. The only thing I dislike about tapered blade/stick is a lot of the sticks and blades I'm looking at aren't tapered, and some of the sticks I don't want are tapered.

Just about every company makes tapered shaft and blades. Bauer, Easton, CCM, RBK, Mission, TPS, and Warrior all offer tapered shafts and blades. Some even make tapered wood blades.


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