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jordy 04-19-2008 06:24 AM

Bring in Grabovski
 
During this series the habs offense has been completely shut-down by the bruins. Our first line which was our bread and butter all season long has faced tighter checking and as a result have not been able to tear up the bruins like they did all year. Since we dont have Koivu our 2nd line especially higgins and ryder have been non-existant. Although our 3rd line of smoke kosto and begin have played very well we cant count on these grinders to produce much more offense, it's not their role and it shouldn't be expected of them. Latendresse lapierre and dandenault have played well but they havent had much success offensively in this series. Now since koivu isn't going to be back to give the habs a much needed offensive surge why not put in grabovski? hes fast and skilled and showed in his second stint in montreal his offensive upside, and he cant do any less than higgins or ryder are doing right now. Either way the habs need a change IMO. Anyone else agree?

Schooner Guy 04-19-2008 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jordy (Post 13746098)
During this series the habs offense has been completely shut-down by the bruins. Our first line which was our bread and butter all season long has faced tighter checking and as a result have not been able to tear up the bruins like they did all year. Since we dont have Koivu our 2nd line especially higgins and ryder have been non-existant. Although our 3rd line of smoke kosto and begin have played very well we cant count on these grinders to produce much more offense, it's not their role and it shouldn't be expected of them. Latendresse lapierre and dandenault have played well but they havent had much success offensively in this series. Now since koivu isn't going to be back to give the habs a much needed offensive surge why not put in grabovski? hes fast and skilled and showed in his second stint in montreal his offensive upside, and he cant do any less than higgins or ryder are doing right now. Either way the habs need a change IMO. Anyone else agree?

Why do you say with such certainty that Koivu won't be back?? From all reports I've seen, there's a very strong chance he'll be playing tonight.

By the way, the Bruins would knock Grabovsky off the puck very easily.

GNick42 04-19-2008 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by jordy (Post 13746098)
During this series the habs offense has been completely shut-down by the bruins. Our first line which was our bread and butter all season long has faced tighter checking and as a result have not been able to tear up the bruins like they did all year. Since we dont have Koivu our 2nd line especially higgins and ryder have been non-existant. Although our 3rd line of smoke kosto and begin have played very well we cant count on these grinders to produce much more offense, it's not their role and it shouldn't be expected of them. Latendresse lapierre and dandenault have played well but they havent had much success offensively in this series. Now since koivu isn't going to be back to give the habs a much needed offensive surge why not put in grabovski? hes fast and skilled and showed in his second stint in montreal his offensive upside, and he cant do any less than higgins or ryder are doing right now. Either way the habs need a change IMO. Anyone else agree?


Speed is what got us to the dance(first place in East), Grabs is one of fastest players...if he can go...get in there.

jordy 04-19-2008 06:38 AM

i meant for game 6, and i didn't hear from anywhere that koivu would be in the line-up tonight. if he is well theres no need for grabovski. if not though why not give Grabovski a chance, frig we've given guys like ryder and dandenault chance after chance to produce this season and for the most part ryder misses the net way too much or shoots it in the defencers pads and dandenault is fast but he never does anything with his speed( hand of stone) why not just give grabovski one game to see what he can do?

Hackett 04-19-2008 06:43 AM

if the bruins dictate the tempo, and take montreal's speed out of the neutral zone, then grabo isn't going to help at all.

Throughout most of this series and especially in Boston, montreal has had to beat boston at their own game, and I dont expect game 6 to be any different.

GNick42 04-19-2008 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Hackett (Post 13746135)
if the bruins dictate the tempo, and take montreal's speed out of the neutral zone, then grabo isn't going to help at all.

Throughout most of this series and especially in Boston, montreal has had to beat boston at their own game, and I dont expect game 6 to be any different.

If that's the case...best if we get out our golf clubs

wedge 04-19-2008 06:54 AM

I'd put Grabovski in the lineup instead of Ryder, that's for sure. and maybe put him only on the power play and then decide if he deserves more ice time.

SwiftyHab 04-19-2008 07:26 AM

I wouldnt say that kessel is any better than Grabovsky and we saw what he did last game. My guess is Carbo took notice as well, and will bring in Grabs at one point

GNick42 04-19-2008 07:44 AM

That is if Grabs is healthy enough. Speed is what made our team this year. It blew Boston out most of the year. We have the puck moving defenseman to open the game up. If Carbo continues to play defensive shutdown hockey the only chance we have I am afraid is if Price stands on his head one of the next two games

CanadienErrant* 04-19-2008 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Komisarovski (Post 13746166)
I'd put Grabovski in the lineup instead of Ryder, that's for sure. and maybe put him only on the power play and then decide if he deserves more ice time.

I'd rather have Stewart to add size, grit to this line up and let the Kostitsyns, Kovalev, and Higgins score some goals.

After last Thursday's loss, it's gonna be harder and harder to beat the Bruins. Their confidence level is at its highest right now.

flappuck 04-19-2008 08:17 AM

As much as I like Grabovski, at this point I think Stewart would bring more to the table.
He can skate, he can hit and he crashes the net.
The Higgins and Kost Jr duo could use a grinder to do the scrap work and he'd be a good fit right about now.

Bad Natey 04-19-2008 08:28 AM

With Koivu back, I'm willing to give Ryder another chance.

Kosty - Pleks - Kovy
Lats - Koivu - Ryder
Higgins - Lappy - Kosty
Begin - Smoke - Kosto

Markov - Komi
Hammer - Breezer
Cube - Gorges

Born in 1909 04-19-2008 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jordy (Post 13746098)
During this series the habs offense has been completely shut-down by the bruins. Our first line which was our bread and butter all season long has faced tighter checking and as a result have not been able to tear up the bruins like they did all year. Since we dont have Koivu our 2nd line especially higgins and ryder have been non-existant. Although our 3rd line of smoke kosto and begin have played very well we cant count on these grinders to produce much more offense, it's not their role and it shouldn't be expected of them. Latendresse lapierre and dandenault have played well but they havent had much success offensively in this series. Now since koivu isn't going to be back to give the habs a much needed offensive surge why not put in grabovski? hes fast and skilled and showed in his second stint in montreal his offensive upside, and he cant do any less than higgins or ryder are doing right now. Either way the habs need a change IMO. Anyone else agree?

Grabovsky
Stewart
Koivu (if ready)
Boullion (if ready)

something has GOT to change

I could not be more obvious, Mr. Carbo

Fire Brunet* 04-19-2008 09:13 AM

We don't need soft players in the playoffs, especially not against the Bruins.

NewHabsEra* 04-19-2008 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Hackett (Post 13746135)
if the bruins dictate the tempo, and take montreal's speed out of the neutral zone, then grabo isn't going to help at all.

Throughout most of this series and especially in Boston, montreal has had to beat boston at their own game, and I dont expect game 6 to be any different.

You have a good point but I think we have nothing to lose to try Grabov over Ryder if Koivu cant play game 6.. Grabs is probably our fastest skater, I liked the way he backchecked in the last stretch and I think his speed could help us in the neutral zone, especially if the whole team play with more poise, better execution and all..

I would try:

Kost Pleks Kovy

Higgins Grabs Kost

Stewart Lapierre Dandy

Begin Smoke Kosto

Garnet 04-19-2008 09:47 AM

grabs is over due in my opinion. Cards has been out coached. If the habs continue to play the bruins style Boston will win in 7. Speed is created by transitision hockey. The is always the quickest thing on the ice. The second montreals gets the puck in their own end a habs winger should be driving through the neutral zone to stretch the trap and open the neutral for speed. The wingers are standing still on the half boards and can only chip the puck out and the puck in turned over and the habs start over.
On the attack Montreal needs to stop the hard dump in and stop chip and chase. This forces the slow D to turn get into a foot race with a speed winger. And and the fearcto the dmen because his facing the boards and can' t read the play and inturn makes mistakes.

Garnet 04-19-2008 09:49 AM

sorry about the mistakes I can't fix them on my iPod touch

Andrighetto Fabolous 04-19-2008 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Guy Carbonneau (Post 13746711)
We don't need soft players in the playoffs, especially not against the Bruins.

I'd prefer a "soft" guy like Grabovski who could use his speed against the slow Bruins defence and create chances as we need to score, as opposed to Ryder who is soft and can't skate or show any emotion.

Kriss E 04-19-2008 10:11 AM

every is talking about Koivu..Bouillon..Stewart and Grab...
What is up with Streit..is he healthy?..Maybe his injury was the reason he was so terrible.

BaseballCoach 04-19-2008 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by HallyHabsFan21 (Post 13746990)
I'd prefer a "soft" guy like Grabovski who could use his speed against the slow Bruins defence and create chances as we need to score, as opposed to Ryder who is soft and can't skate or show any emotion.

You may choose to call Ryder and Graboski both soft compared to, say, Begin, but they really aren't even on the same scale.

Ryder softness <<<<<<<< Grabovski softness

jcpenny 04-19-2008 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by HallyHabsFan21 (Post 13746990)
I'd prefer a "soft" guy like Grabovski who could use his speed against the slow Bruins defence and create chances as we need to score, as opposed to Ryder who is soft and can't skate or show any emotion.

Ryder is not soft at all. The guy made some pretty big hits in his career and can take a hit. His problem is his play with the puck.

Megaforce 04-19-2008 10:52 AM

Doesn't matter that Grabs is small. They can't hit what they can't catch. Bring him in. We need goals.

HabsPack 04-19-2008 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Megaforce (Post 13747533)
Doesn't matter that Grabs is small. They can't hit what they can't catch. Bring him in. We need goals.

Agreed, if Saks can't go and Grabs is healthy he should be the second line center tonight.

VAN-HAB 04-19-2008 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Kriss E (Post 13747164)
every is talking about Koivu..Bouillon..Stewart and Grab...
What is up with Streit..is he healthy?..Maybe his injury was the reason he was so terrible.

game time decision

Beakermania* 04-19-2008 01:02 PM

Saku's back

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