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Bad Natey 04-25-2008 01:30 PM

Leadership, etc ... Brisebois/Halak last night
 
EDIT: This isn't supposed to be a thread on Breezer, but just an example of a team being tight, chemistry, leadership, etc. I want this thread to discuss how players who don't play (Halak) or the Black-Aces (Vally, etc) stay positive and feel like a part of the team.

The example from last night;

Aside from his play which has been debated to death.. Carbonneau said Brisebois (and Dandy) were dressed do their leadership and experience.

Watching the CBC feed last night, I never noticed. But I just re-watched Canadiens express and what Brisebois did really caught my eye.

After Kosto scored in OT.. after screaming "WOOO" or whatever to themselves, everyone jumped over the bench to get out there and celebrate.

After Brisebois screamed, the first thing he did was turn to Halak and give him a nice little friendly shove, celebrating with him, which I think would definitely help Halak's morale as really feeling like a part of the team, as he obviously doesn't play.

Not being a Brisebois homer here, I just thought it was a great thing for him to do.

CacaLauncher23 04-25-2008 01:32 PM

Or maybe because Brisebois feels left out like Halak so they celebrate together :dunno:

Travis Moen 04-25-2008 01:34 PM

lol.

Iwishihadacup 04-25-2008 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natey2k4 (Post 13859913)
Aside from his play which has been debated to death.. Carbonneau said Brisebois (and Dandy) were dressed do their leadership and experience.

Watching the CBC feed last night, I never noticed. But I just re-watched Canadiens express and what Brisebois did really caught my eye.

After Kosto scored in OT.. after screaming "WOOO" or whatever to themselves, everyone jumped over the bench to get out there and celebrate.

After Brisebois screamed, the first thing he did was turn to Halak and give him a nice little friendly shove, celebrating with him, which I think would definitely help Halak's morale as really feeling like a part of the team, as he obviously doesn't play.

Not being a Brisebois homer here, I just thought it was a great thing for him to do.

congratulation sir!!

you actually found the only positive point in Breezer last night

must have consulted Toronto for this one

Keep it up:handclap::handclap:

Bad Natey 04-25-2008 01:35 PM

Whatever, guys.

I would of said it about anyone who did it.. and also, already turning this into a bashing thread.

Get a life :).

HF-Addict 04-25-2008 01:35 PM

He also made a pass to Kost for a breakaway I believe.

He also hit a post.

...

He also scored :sarcasm:

Plekanetzz 04-25-2008 01:36 PM

He scored a big goal last night:sarcasm:

compile 04-25-2008 01:39 PM

Or he did that after realizing he almost single handily cost the Habs the game.

Bad Natey 04-25-2008 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForzaHabs (Post 13860056)
Or he did that after realizing he almost single handily cost the Habs the game.

Seriously.. just cause it's cool to bash him.. Go do it in the other thread.

This thread was supposed to spark a thread about team chemistry, leadership, and how to keep backup goalies (and pressbox boys) feeling like they are part of the team.

Dandes 04-25-2008 01:40 PM

No kidding, breezer is playing great playoff. I really appreciated his first pass and his weak shot who always find a way to the goalie.

in my opinion, he is a part of the team

Analyzer* 04-25-2008 01:40 PM

Brisebois is our most offensive defensemen so far and our biggest liability. It balances out. haha

anarmandaleb 04-25-2008 01:41 PM

Look. I'm no Natey, but if anyone but Breezer had made that mistake people wouldn't be bashing him like this. I went on facebook after the game and like 80% of my Hab fan friends were bashing him in their status. What is wrong with everyone?
He made a mistake. If it were another player (Kovy, Hammer, Komi), we would all be defending him to the death.
I happen to like Breezer a lot, even if I think he sucks on the ice most of the time now. He's known to be a really nice guy and sometimes my heart goes out to him when I see him mess something up and he looks like he's gonna cry or when he scores and he's happier than Higgins is when one of his shots somehow doesn't hit the post.
So we should really see the positive here. He was making a backup goalie (who will probably only play these playoffs if Price gets seriously injured, gets ebola, or lets in 8 goals in one period), feel like part of the team because he knows how it feels to be left out.

kernkraft 04-25-2008 01:42 PM

Breezy made a superb pass to Andrei K on his breakaway that led to a penalty shot. Apart from that he had a rough night.

I'd like to see O'Byrne in the line-up.

Seb 04-25-2008 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dandes (Post 13860080)
in my opinion, he is a part of the team problems in the playoffs

fixed :)

Analyzer* 04-25-2008 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anarmandaleb (Post 13860091)
Look. I'm no Natey, but if anyone but Breezer had made that mistake people wouldn't be bashing him like this. I went on facebook after the game and like 80% of my Hab fan friends were bashing him in their status. What is wrong with everyone?
He made a mistake. If it were another player (Kovy, Hammer, Komi), we would all be defending him to the death.
I happen to like Breezer a lot, even if I think he sucks on the ice most of the time now. He's known to be a really nice guy and sometimes my heart goes out to him when I see him mess something up and he looks like he's gonna cry or when he scores and he's happier than Higgins is when one of his shots somehow doesn't hit the post.
So we should really see the positive here. He was making a backup goalie (who will probably only play these playoffs if Price gets seriously injured, gets ebola, or lets in 8 goals in one period), feel like part of the team because he knows how it feels to be left out.

Word.

Sometimes you feel bad for the guy.

Would you happen to have a video of Brisebois and Halak, possibly?

compile 04-25-2008 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natey2k4 (Post 13860078)
Seriously.. just cause it's cool to bash him.. Go do it in the other thread.

This thread was supposed to spark a thread about team chemistry, leadership, and how to keep backup goalies (and pressbox boys) feeling like they are part of the team.

The truth hurt or something?

Bad Natey 04-25-2008 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Analyzer (Post 13860174)
Word.

Sometimes you feel bad for the guy.

Would you happen to have a video of Brisebois and Halak, possibly?

I don't.. someone who taped the RDS feed might. I have to record the CBC feed because my dad hates watching RDS when its on in English.

Therefore I only have the CBC feed and they didn't show it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForzaHabs (Post 13860177)
The truth hurt or something?

This just isn't supposed to be that kind of thread. Going off-topic is pretty stupid just to bash someone.

I was trying to spark an intelligent discussion .. I could make a thread for you about rainbow cookies or something, if you like?

BadHabit 04-25-2008 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natey2k4 (Post 13859913)
After Kosto scored in OT.. after screaming "WOOO" or whatever to themselves, everyone jumped over the bench to get out there and celebrate.

After Brisebois screamed, the first thing he did was turn to Halak and give him a nice little friendly shove, celebrating with him, which I think would definitely help Halak's morale as really feeling like a part of the team, as he obviously doesn't play.

Now, if only he wasn't allowed to leave the bench!

compile 04-25-2008 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anarmandaleb (Post 13860091)
Look. I'm no Natey, but if anyone but Breezer had made that mistake people wouldn't be bashing him like this. I went on facebook after the game and like 80% of my Hab fan friends were bashing him in their status. What is wrong with everyone?
He made a mistake. If it were another player (Kovy, Hammer, Komi), we would all be defending him to the death.
I happen to like Breezer a lot, even if I think he sucks on the ice most of the time now. He's known to be a really nice guy and sometimes my heart goes out to him when I see him mess something up and he looks like he's gonna cry or when he scores and he's happier than Higgins is when one of his shots somehow doesn't hit the post.
So we should really see the positive here. He was making a backup goalie (who will probably only play these playoffs if Price gets seriously injured, gets ebola, or lets in 8 goals in one period), feel like part of the team because he knows how it feels to be left out.

The difference is Brisebois does it all the time. At least 3-4 turn overs a game, and he gets beaten a lot. Heck 2 mistakes he made almost cost us the game.

How anyone thinks he's good or likes him really defies any logic. God I'd rather have Halak or Danis playing D then Brisebois.

He's a leader, but not even a decent player. No one is questioning or arguing his character, it's his lack of skill on the ice.

Joey 04-25-2008 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natey2k4 (Post 13859913)
EDIT: This isn't supposed to be a thread on Breezer, but just an example of a team being tight, chemistry, leadership, etc. I want this thread to discuss how players who don't play (Halak) or the Black-Aces (Vally, etc) stay positive and feel like a part of the team.

The example from last night;

Aside from his play which has been debated to death.. Carbonneau said Brisebois (and Dandy) were dressed do their leadership and experience.

Watching the CBC feed last night, I never noticed. But I just re-watched Canadiens express and what Brisebois did really caught my eye.

After Kosto scored in OT.. after screaming "WOOO" or whatever to themselves, everyone jumped over the bench to get out there and celebrate.

After Brisebois screamed, the first thing he did was turn to Halak and give him a nice little friendly shove, celebrating with him, which I think would definitely help Halak's morale as really feeling like a part of the team, as he obviously doesn't play.

Not being a Brisebois homer here, I just thought it was a great thing for him to do.


Wow alot of dicks replying in this thread....

I agree COMPLETELY with you man. He knows what it takes, the mindset you must be in to compete for the Cup. Brisebois 1 ring, Dandy 3 rings...wonder why they're in the lineup? I'll bet you what these guys are telling some of the kids about how to feel and what to ignore and what to focus on, and it's probably helping them alot. These are character guys, they rely on their wisdom and experience of the game, and it rubs off on others. In the way grinders are not appreciated fully by the average fan, leadership presence is not appreciated fully by us on HF.

Not saying you don't have to play good to stay in, but if you got a bunch of guys who fare pretty similarly on the assets-vs-liabilities scale, you put in the guys who got rings on their fingers.

speed11 04-25-2008 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natey2k4 (Post 13860009)
Whatever, guys.

I would of said it about anyone who did it..

no, you really wouldn't of. nice try though.

Habs10Habs 04-25-2008 01:53 PM

Breezer has shown nothing but class on his return to the Habs. So it doesn't surprise me that he would do something like this at the end of the game.

VAN-HAB 04-25-2008 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natey2k4 (Post 13859913)
EDIT: This isn't supposed to be a thread on Breezer, but just an example of a team being tight, chemistry, leadership, etc. I want this thread to discuss how players who don't play (Halak) or the Black-Aces (Vally, etc) stay positive and feel like a part of the team.

The example from last night;

Aside from his play which has been debated to death.. Carbonneau said Brisebois (and Dandy) were dressed do their leadership and experience.

Watching the CBC feed last night, I never noticed. But I just re-watched Canadiens express and what Brisebois did really caught my eye.

After Kosto scored in OT.. after screaming "WOOO" or whatever to themselves, everyone jumped over the bench to get out there and celebrate.

After Brisebois screamed, the first thing he did was turn to Halak and give him a nice little friendly shove, celebrating with him, which I think would definitely help Halak's morale as really feeling like a part of the team, as he obviously doesn't play.

Not being a Brisebois homer here, I just thought it was a great thing for him to do.

all I can say is WOW, well that changes everything, all of a suden I am big Brisebois fan.
WOW

compile 04-25-2008 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natey2k4 (Post 13860188)
I don't.. someone who taped the RDS feed might. I have to record the CBC feed because my dad hates watching RDS when its on in English.

Therefore I only have the CBC feed and they didn't show it.


This just isn't supposed to be that kind of thread. Going off-topic is pretty stupid just to bash someone.

I was trying to spark an intelligent discussion .. I could make a thread for you about rainbow cookies or something, if you like?

Umm discussions involve people. Not everyone has the same opinion. If you want everyone to agree with you, start a nut hugging site for Brisebois and delete any comments from people.
Its not going off topic. Off topic would imply we are talking about something completely different then Brisebois.

CenterHice 04-25-2008 01:54 PM

I saw it and thought it was a great thing to do. I think Patrice is a great person and a very good hockey player, however, he does tend to have his share of mistakes.
I'm not quite sure why his seem to stand out to me more than the other players.


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