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carbomustgo07 04-28-2008 09:18 PM

Getting away with murder?
 
Is it me or did the refs lose their eyes since last game. For starters, Kostopolous got cross-checked in the face many times, and both times he wasn't playing the puck. He's a warrior and I respect him tremendously, but the refs should still make a call. I like the rough stuff, but it gets to a point where the guys in zebra stripes have to take control of the game. Plekanec gets nailed after the whistle, another one. It's not just a biased opinion because I honestly didn't see that dirty stuff in game 3 by the Habs. They knew from the game 2 incident that they had to start controlling their emotions, and they did a decent job.
I really like that the players are standing up for each other, and themselves, taking nothing from any one :handclap:
What are your thoughts on the dirty play during game 3?

Judge Sauer* 04-28-2008 09:24 PM

It's bad on both sides, it's just that the coach for one team is more vocal about it, Carbs has calmed down about that stuff this year that's for sure.

llamateizer 04-28-2008 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carbomustgo07 (Post 13909764)
Is it me or did the refs lose their eyes since last game. For starters, Kostopolous got cross-checked in the face many times, and both times he wasn't playing the puck. He's a warrior and I respect him tremendously, but the refs should still make a call. I like the rough stuff, but it gets to a point where the guys in zebra stripes have to take control of the game. Plekanec gets nailed after the whistle, another one. It's not just a biased opinion because I honestly didn't see that dirty stuff in game 3 by the Habs. They knew from the game 2 incident that they had to start controlling their emotions, and they did a decent job.
I really like that the players are standing up for each other, and themselves, taking nothing from any one :handclap:
What are your thoughts on the dirty play during game 3?

its a real playoffs games
dirty
it would be stupid if they called all the penalties

The refs did a good job in generals
they let some penalties but in general i have nothing to complain.

Bill McNeal 04-28-2008 09:27 PM

Honestly, I have no issue with the reffing in this series.

I know a lot of people on both sides do, but it's pretty much been what I've expected from referees after watching well over 100 games of hockey this year.

Sometimes you get the calls, sometimes you don't. Good teams come through in the end (especially in a best of seven series).

JGRB 04-28-2008 09:29 PM

When I read the title I thought you actually got away with murder, but now that I see what this thread is about i've lost interest. Reffing has been equally crappy on both sides.

ShuttFan 04-28-2008 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carbomustgo07 (Post 13909764)
Is it me or did the refs lose their eyes since last game. For starters, Kostopolous got cross-checked in the face many times, and both times he wasn't playing the puck. He's a warrior and I respect him tremendously, but the refs should still make a call. I like the rough stuff, but it gets to a point where the guys in zebra stripes have to take control of the game. Plekanec gets nailed after the whistle, another one. It's not just a biased opinion because I honestly didn't see that dirty stuff in game 3 by the Habs. They knew from the game 2 incident that they had to start controlling their emotions, and they did a decent job.
I really like that the players are standing up for each other, and themselves, taking nothing from any one :handclap:
What are your thoughts on the dirty play during game 3?

and should the Flyers go on to face the Pens, they'll have free reign on Crosby like they've had against the Habs. :sarcasm:

I thought the Hatcher penalty was 4 minutes at best, and the Habs bench call for too many men could be called a dozen times a game. Although the refs seemed to wake up a bit in the 3rd, it was done to extremes.

huet the master 04-28-2008 09:37 PM

The refs are just trying to do us a favour by preventing our disastrous PP from getting on the ice :sarcasm:

RC51 04-28-2008 09:39 PM

oh yeah! did anybody catch Kostopolos getting punched in the face by a guy on the bench?

Refs missed that one also. but you don't see that every day.

keepcalmandbeninja 04-28-2008 09:41 PM

Quote:

Honestly, I have no issue with the reffing in this series.

I know a lot of people on both sides do, but it's pretty much been what I've expected from referees after watching well over 100 games of hockey this year.

Sometimes you get the calls, sometimes you don't. Good teams come through in the end (especially in a best of seven series).
Honestly I do, countless PIMs should, could and would have been called but we have no luck...yet...


Quote:

its a real playoffs games
dirty
it would be stupid if they called all the penalties

The refs did a good job in generals
they let some penalties but in general i have nothing to complain.
To a certain extent I agree that it would be stupid to call every little thing but My NHL 3 is EXACTLY like that....

Everytime I see a line change...too many men on the ice...could be called have a dozen times per game...

Whitesnake 04-28-2008 09:43 PM

Are we actually complaining about the referrees after getting a 5 on 3 and a 5 minute major? And other penalties as well while clearly Streit should've received a 2 minute for cross checking at the later stage of the game but then it's Philly who had a penalty for a really average call on Kukkonen?

Is that thread really happening?

compile 04-28-2008 09:46 PM

I can't believe that there is 2 sets of rules in the NHL.
1 for the regular season.
1 for the playoffs.

This league fails on an epic level. Hatcher's hit was just and he should also serve a 3 game suspension. Richards is a little **** and I hope he gets his head taken off next game.

Dogbert* 04-28-2008 09:49 PM

From where I sit, we've been getting the lion's share of the calls, and that goes for the Boston series too: in fact, if it hadn't been for the stripes, we're looking at getting swept on Wednesday night. The powerplays are masking the fact that we haven't been able to compete with more physical teams five-on-five, and if you can't take a hit, you aren't going anywhere in the playoffs.

I'd also say that it has a lot to do with the fact that a lot of our go-to guys are young, inexperienced, and haven't known anything similar to the NHL playoffs before. Remember: the Oiler dynasty of the '80s had to fail miserably in the playoffs several times before they learned what it took to win it all.

Watsatheo 04-28-2008 09:50 PM

I'm booing this thread in my head at the moment.

I thought this was a thread about how Plekanec almost killed Umburger. :sarcasm:

tinyzombies 04-28-2008 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whitesnake (Post 13910327)
Are we actually complaining about the referrees after getting a 5 on 3 and a 5 minute major? And other penalties as well while clearly Streit should've received a 2 minute for cross checking at the later stage of the game but then it's Philly who had a penalty for a really average call on Kukkonen?

Is that thread really happening?

What about Pleks going after Umberger's knee on the very same play. He went after Aaron Ward's knee in the last series as well and plays like a coward the rest of the time.

Adam91 04-28-2008 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carbomustgo07 (Post 13909764)
game. Kostopolous got cross-checked in the face many times,

there was one cross check where he was completley helpless, on his knees and got one right in the face, if thats not a penalty I don't know what is

carbomustgo07 04-28-2008 10:26 PM

[ Richards is a little **** and I hope he gets his head taken off next game.[/QUOTE]
I agree, he complains to the refs every second whistle. He hacks at Price, and should be knocked out-TK style.

Stradale 04-28-2008 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam91 (Post 13910914)
there was one cross check where he was completley helpless, on his knees and got one right in the face, if thats not a penalty I don't know what is

Yup and got punch in the face by Prospal while he was sitting on the bench.

And the too many man call was ********.

Stradale 04-28-2008 10:31 PM

Just saw the video of Richards hitting Halak on the mask.

I seriously hope the Canadiens organisation sends a tape to the league to prevent those things. Thats was not violent but ****ing dirty and classless.

number 11 04-28-2008 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whitesnake (Post 13910327)
Are we actually complaining about the referrees after getting a 5 on 3 and a 5 minute major?

Right, so the other penalties don't count just because we already got a few power plays.

:handclap:

Ice Poutine 04-28-2008 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForzaHabs (Post 13910344)
I can't believe that there is 2 sets of rules in the NHL.
1 for the regular season.
1 for the playoffs.

This league fails on an epic level. ....

This is actually a very good observation and a major reason why hockey is still considered a tertiary sport in the USA.

Kirk Muller 04-28-2008 10:43 PM

yes the refs are letting a tonne go however Montreal has wasted so many scoring chances that the situation they are in is their own fault.

SOLR 04-28-2008 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dogbert (Post 13910400)
From where I sit, we've been getting the lion's share of the calls, and that goes for the Boston series too: in fact, if it hadn't been for the stripes, we're looking at getting swept on Wednesday night. The powerplays are masking the fact that we haven't been able to compete with more physical teams five-on-five, and if you can't take a hit, you aren't going anywhere in the playoffs.

I'd also say that it has a lot to do with the fact that a lot of our go-to guys are young, inexperienced, and haven't known anything similar to the NHL playoffs before. Remember: the Oiler dynasty of the '80s had to fail miserably in the playoffs several times before they learned what it took to win it all.

Refreshing. :handclap:

I have the same opinion, we don't know the Price(pun semi-intented) just yet.

a) We dont know the price of winning.

b) It's becoming more and more apparent that it will take some time for Carey and the Ds to get on the same page, other teams are not exposing Carey, as much as the lack of coordination with a defense that is often surprised by a goaltender who can play the puck.

Adam91 04-28-2008 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Watsatheo (Post 13910405)
I'm booing this thread in my head at the moment.

I thought this was a thread about how Plekanec almost killed Umburger. :sarcasm:

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE CLEAR THIS UP FOR ME, I honestly have NO idea what happened there, from what I could see just appear like Pleks either completly missed him or barely touched him... but I couldn't find a good angle

mja 04-28-2008 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam91 (Post 13911538)
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE CLEAR THIS UP FOR ME, I honestly have NO idea what happened there, from what I could see just appear like Pleks either completly missed him or barely touched him... but I couldn't find a good angle

On the Vs. feed they had a pretty good angle. Basically, he went in to hip check him and caught him right above the knee with his hip. Umberger winces instantaneously, so I don't think he was acting. Another poster said it was a charley horse. I don't know if that's true but they hurt like hell.

Kimota 04-29-2008 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carbomustgo07 (Post 13909764)
Is it me or did the refs lose their eyes since last game. For starters, Kostopolous got cross-checked in the face many times, and both times he wasn't playing the puck. He's a warrior and I respect him tremendously, but the refs should still make a call. I like the rough stuff, but it gets to a point where the guys in zebra stripes have to take control of the game. Plekanec gets nailed after the whistle, another one. It's not just a biased opinion because I honestly didn't see that dirty stuff in game 3 by the Habs. They knew from the game 2 incident that they had to start controlling their emotions, and they did a decent job.
I really like that the players are standing up for each other, and themselves, taking nothing from any one :handclap:
What are your thoughts on the dirty play during game 3?

:cry:

Those posts are an embarassement.


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