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Capitano 05-09-2008 09:18 AM

Kolzig as our backup?
 
Apparently he's done in Washington.

With Price being "the guy", it doesn't leave many games for Halak - so my guess is that Halak is either traded or goes to play in Russia.

Wasn't there some kind of connection with Kolzig/Price in the past?

What do you guys think if we had Kolzig as our backup if Halak goes/or is traded?

SpreeEndaz 05-09-2008 09:21 AM

I think Kozlig has too much pride for that; just read about the attitude he had when Huet took over the number 1 spot over there.

znk 05-09-2008 09:24 AM

Halak!
He's our real safty net if anything goes bad with Price.

SpreeEndaz 05-09-2008 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by znk (Post 14052949)
Halak!
He's our real safty net if anything goes bad with Price.

I think he'll go for a pick or two, either via a trade on draft day or by being snatched through RFA agency.

Roulin 05-09-2008 09:32 AM

Ever since Julien was fired, the Habs have given a lot of games to their backup goalie. A sound strategy, IMHO. If Halak can expect to play 30 games this season, I don't see why he'd give up on his NHL career so soon.

Also, at this stage of their careers, Halak is better than Kolzig. The 3rd round pick we could get for Jaroslav would not be worth the drop in quality for those 30 games.

Capitano 05-09-2008 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by znk (Post 14052949)
Halak!
He's our real safty net if anything goes bad with Price.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpreeEndaz (Post 14052960)
I think he'll go for a pick or two, either via a trade on draft day or by being snatched through RFA agency.

I like Halak, but I recall reading that his agent thinks he should play more - and I agree with that.

Price is our guy, but Halak deserves a chance to play 20-30 games at least. I can't see us going with the 2 young goalies though.

I can see us moving Halak with our draft pick to move up in the draft if possible.

JGRB 05-09-2008 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roulin (Post 14053075)
Ever since Julien was fired, the Habs have given a lot of games to their backup goalie. A sound strategy, IMHO. If Halak can expect to play 30 games this season, I don't see why he'd give up on his NHL career so soon.

Also, at this stage of their careers, Halak is better than Kolzig. The 3rd round pick we could get for Jaroslav would not be worth the drop in quality for those 30 games.

True, however we've never had clear cut #1 goalies in that time though. When Huet was our "#1" he would get injured and the backup would play a ton of games. I fully expect Price to play 65-70 games next season. I still think Halak is our best bet for the remaining work load.

Sined 05-09-2008 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoHabsGo247 (Post 14053106)
I fully expect Price to play 65-70 games next season.

He played 40 games this season and got tired come playoff time.
No way he is playing 65-70 games next season.
He isn't Marty Brodeur or Evgeni Nabokov ... yet!

Guy Germaine 05-09-2008 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capitano (Post 14052896)
Wasn't there some kind of connection with Kolzig/Price in the past?

Good point.
I totally forgot that Kolzig is part owner of the Tri-City Americans.

LV Hab 05-09-2008 10:00 AM

Carbo won't overuse Price this early in his career. Halak will most likely get around 25 games next season.

Iwishihadacup 05-09-2008 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LV Hab (Post 14053275)
Carbo won't overuse Price this early in his career. Halak will most likely get around 25 games next season.

I would look over for 30

Booba 05-09-2008 10:15 AM

We need to keep Halak, he has a lot of potential

He has dominated the slovakian league, the QMJHL, the ECHL and the AHL (would probably have won the Cup Calder too) and he has been pretty good so far in the NHL

I don't see any good reason to trade him

The n00b King * 05-09-2008 10:19 AM

Trade Halak for Kolzig and Ovechkin.

JMMR 05-09-2008 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sined (Post 14053234)
He played 40 games this season and got tired come playoff time.
No way he is playing 65-70 games next season.
He isn't Marty Brodeur or Evgeni Nabokov ... yet!

He was not really tired because of that, last year he played about 100 games and won the Calder cup and never really had a summer to recharge.

Lucius 05-09-2008 10:21 AM

Eventually, like Theodore and Garon, we will need to move Halak. It's inevitable. If he's as good as we all think he is, he will be a #1 somewhere and we will have to move him to give him that chance.

That said, it doesn't necessarily have to be this year.

As to Kolzig, I do not believe he would be a good fit. Frankly, the way he left Washington was pretty classless and I doubt he would slide meekly into a backup role like Joseph did in Calgary.

Capitano 05-09-2008 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Booba (Post 14053399)
We need to keep Halak, he has a lot of potential

He has dominated the slovakian league, the QMJHL, the ECHL and the AHL (would probably have won the Cup Calder too) and he has been pretty good so far in the NHL

I don't see any good reason to trade him

I'm on-board to keep him, but if his agent wants him to get a certain number of games it might be a problem.

Anyway, I just thought the Kolzig/Price connection made some sense. That, and I'm a bit concerned about 2 young goalies.

FrankMTL 05-09-2008 10:23 AM

Kolzig is probably to proud to be a back up for the kid he was tutoring in Tri City.

Bronn 05-09-2008 10:24 AM

If Halak don't mind being a backup and plays 20-30 games then i'd much rather have him than Kolzig.

If not than i'd rather have someone a bit "younger" as backup. Maybe someone like Patrick Lalime could be a good choice.

Chomsky 05-09-2008 10:25 AM

Halak can't go to Russia anymore.

/thread

Anyway, I'd rather have him as back-up over a washed-up Kolzig..

Whitesnake 05-09-2008 10:32 AM

Thought about Kolzig as well, just wondering if there will be clash of personnalities between Kolzig and Melanson. Price might become more mixed up than anything else.

Form and Substance 05-09-2008 10:33 AM

Halak is only 23, it's not like time is running out on him. He'll play a sizable back-up role next season (25-30 games), if he does well in that sample of games, teams will go after him (Tampa cough) and he'll get his chance to succeed.

Capitano 05-09-2008 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whitesnake (Post 14053563)
Thought about Kolzig as well, just wondering if there will be clash of personnalities between Kolzig and Melanson. Price might become more mixed up than anything else.

Excellent point...

Brisk-Illusion 05-09-2008 10:34 AM

As a Halak fan, I hope he gets dealt somewhere he isn't treated like ****

As a Habs' fan I really hope he stays

Iz 05-09-2008 10:39 AM

Trade Halak so soon? That would be stupid. We have 2 good goalies who cost us nothing. Better use them 60%/40% for an year or two and then trade Halak when his value is high.

ChuckyToGally 05-09-2008 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roulin (Post 14053075)
Ever since Julien was fired, the Habs have given a lot of games to their backup goalie. A sound strategy, IMHO. If Halak can expect to play 30 games this season, I don't see why he'd give up on his NHL career so soon.

Also, at this stage of their careers, Halak is better than Kolzig. The 3rd round pick we could get for Jaroslav would not be worth the drop in quality for those 30 games.

A 3rd round pick?

The Blackhawks were ready to trade Ruutu for Halak and Gainey refused that deal. Ruutu was later traded for Ladd in Carolina. I think that Halak value is higher than you think...


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