Also I can see why fans that want us to draft better local players, as we have not done a good job in drafting from the Q. With 12 players and 10 additional former QMJHLers signed as overagers or FA's and two Quebec born players that didn't play in the Q (Danis/Paquet), we really don't have much to show for it as only three of those 12 picks have seen any action in the nhl to date along with two free agents signees (Cote/Danis). Only Latendresse and Lapierre are regulars although Mathieu Carle if he continues to improve could start to see some time with the Habs over the next 2 seasons.
So clearly the hope is that the scouting staff can garner better results when drafting from the QMJHL. Out of the 26 CHLers we have picked over the last 7 drafts, we have really gotten little return so far as the OHL and QMJHL have seen the bulk of the drafted players, but until now only Lats and Lappy have been able to stick. Now that could change if D'Agostini, Mathieu Carle and Greg Stewart get roster spots within the next 2 years but still not a great track record. The WHL picks could really pick up the slack though, as Price hopefully goes to be become a great nhler and Chipchura should be a regular within 2 years, and Maxwell/White are skilled prospects.
Should be interesting to see what direction Timmins and his staff look to these next 2 drafts, which have gotten a large degree of hype, especially next summer's draft in '09 which the hype is now off the charts as it is shaping up to be one heck of a draft year. (hopefully Gainey moves up in '09 to get a top pick, although it will likely be very costly) Plus trends do change, we haven't had much luck in Finland, Sweden, the OHL and they have made some big gambles on Minnesota High school players (Fischer/McDonagh/Wyman/Conboy/Stejskal/Kishel) but are looking good on their east coast (NY/Conn) picks (Komisarek/Higgins/Pacioretty). Cepek is the lone US west coaster (california) and Paquet the only player from Canada drafted out of the USHS.
But perhaps things will go better from say the OHL or the Q or perhaps one of the Euro league countries not named Belarus or Russia. This summer's draft surely would be a good time to improve our luck with OHL picks, since it's going to be a banner year for them at the draft and it sounds like Timmins is high on a couple QMJHLers so if they go that route, hopefully the results will be better then they have been so far.
Originally Posted by Ice Poutine
And those five picks will be what we call 'projects' for sure. The big wave of talented players coming up in the next 3 years drom our farm system is going to compensate for our 25th pick and low numbers this year at the draft. Dont expect a guy we pick this year to play for the Habs for at least 2-3 years i'd say.
I think and hope that Timmins can continue to draft quality players despite hopefully picking later in the draft then we have been used to. Not saying that we can get guys like Kostitsyn at 200th overall, but they have drafted some interesting players later in the draft so hopefully they keep up the good work despite it being more difficult.
I don't think anyone should expect an 18 year old to jump into the nhl with 2 years unless your talking a top 5 pick. That said it's been interesting to see the changes, in the past we never seemed to have any 18-19-20 year olds on the team in full time roles, and they this year we had 3 20 year olds playing full time. Personally I like to see our prospects spend some time in the AHL, but if they play well enough then move them up.
Originally Posted by le_sean
Great read, interesting facts.
I love that they are dipping into the American pool. Hockey is really growing there. Obviously there have always been American players, but now they are coming from all over, some Californians and I believe a Texan in an upcoming draft (Sam Calabrese IIRC). These High School kids like McDonagh and Fischer are really raw when drafted but have a ******** of potential, so it makes them interesting and makes sense why they are passed up by so many teams. A guy like Pacioretty is drafted late because USHL players are difficult to gauge, like Turris in the BCHL. You have to take chances while drafting and they seem to be smart choices so far. I'm happy with the results.
Clearly Timmins likes what he sees from the US programs, although the fact that they can keep their rights for 4 years or more also has to help to a degree. Ever since the NCAA changed their rules, it really opened things up for US high school players, who will likely continue to get scouted in great numbers imo.
Pacioretty I assume he fell a bit in the draft because of his lack of success until his draft year, as he was not a standout player in the USHS (played against Higgins USHS team) from what I've been told. But he went over to the USHL and was the rookie of the year, he didn't have any international exposure either which limits the number of scouts to see him. Plus it helps that he is a late B-day, so he missed the '06 draft by some 2 months.