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YMCMBeaulieu 05-26-2008 11:11 AM

Lafleur: Re-sign Kovalev, Not Koivu
 
http://www.habsinsideout.com/main/8180

:shakehead

Can he shut up already??

anarmandaleb 05-26-2008 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HallyHabsFan21 (Post 14214441)
http://www.habsinsideout.com/main/8180

:shakehead

Can he shut up already??


Here we go again.

Rapmaster 05-26-2008 11:16 AM

:nod:

habfan4 05-26-2008 11:21 AM

Well that's one way to get people to read or start talking about your column.

Habs 4 Life 05-26-2008 11:22 AM

Doesn't Lafleur have bigger problems to take care of..

Arctic_Hab_Fan 05-26-2008 11:24 AM

I liked Lafleur as a player, admired him...but the things coming out of his mouth and being part of the alumni are cancerous!

417 05-26-2008 11:26 AM

Well I guess this is the official kick off of the "who to re-sign Kovalev or Koivu" saga for the upcoming year...get used to it, I have a feeling we'll be talking/hearing about all through fall/winter.

Habs10Habs 05-26-2008 11:32 AM

Lafleur adds: "Not that Koivu doesn't have his place on the team or that he hasn't given everything to the Habs during his career in Montreal. But business is business and the best possible team must be given to the fans.

"In this regard, Koivu is an excellent (chip) who could bring interesting dividends (in return)."

Personally I don't agree with trading Koivu, because I want to see him retire as a Hab. But other than that, what Lafleur says does make some sense.

SOLR 05-26-2008 11:33 AM

For once, I agree with Guy. Koivu as passed the point where he can bring us anywhere, hes still a good player by all accounts but he can't play with an edge for long enough period of times. I also don't want anything to do with signing him for emotional reasons(he should finish his career here kinda arguments, this team shouldn't be a pre-retirement stop), business is business.

Vicious 05-26-2008 11:35 AM

After Koivu's terrible performance in the playoffs, I now have a firm belief that he's a has-been.


Oh wait.

Habs10Habs 05-26-2008 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicious (Post 14214619)
After Koivu's terrible performance in the playoffs, I now have a firm belief that he's a has-been.


Oh wait.

I think that is what Lafleur is getting at in his article. Koivu did have a very strong playoffs *like the majority of us thought he would*. So his value is at it's peak.

If you take all of the emotions out of it and look at things from a strictly business sort of way. If *cringes* there was ever a time to move Koivu, now would be it.

Westcoasthabsfan 05-26-2008 11:39 AM

I have to agree with the Flower as well on this one.... If I had to chose between Saku or Alex it would be Alex hands down.... brings alot more to the table and proved it this year big time

habfan4 05-26-2008 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicious (Post 14214619)
After Koivu's terrible performance in the playoffs, I now have a firm belief that he's a has-been.


Oh wait.

I wonder how long it will take before someone responds with the classic non sequitur rebuttal to your point i.e. “we haven't won anything with Koivu as the Captain"

YMCMBeaulieu 05-26-2008 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Westcoasthabsfan (Post 14214638)
I have to agree with the Flower as well on this one.... If I had to chose between Saku or Alex it would be Alex hands down.... brings alot more to the table and proved it this year big time

And what if we see the same Kovalev from 2 years ago this year?

Dogbert* 05-26-2008 11:44 AM

Alexei Kovalevs win you the Presidents' Trophy. Saku Koivus win you the Stanley Cup. Our problem is - and always has been - that we have too many of the former and not enough of the latter.

Gabe84 05-26-2008 11:44 AM

How 'bout we keep Koivu and Kovalev, and we trade Lafleur to Phoenix or Dallas?

Can you do that? Trade columnists?

anarmandaleb 05-26-2008 11:45 AM

The thought makes me want to cry. It makes me want to cry even harder that Lafleur has a point.
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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabe84 (Post 14214685)
How 'bout we keep Koivu and Kovalev, and we trade Lafleur to Phoenix or Dallas?

Can you do that? Trade columnists?

I tried trading Gagnon to Philly a few weeks ago.
Apparently you can't.

habfan4 05-26-2008 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anarmandaleb (Post 14214689)
The thought makes me want to cry. It makes me want to cry even harder that Lafleur has a point...

Making the "sell high" point doesn't exactly require a razor sharp intellect. Let's be honest if it was anyone else besides The Flower making a point this mundane they would have been laughed off the dais a long time ago.

Judge Sauer* 05-26-2008 12:02 PM

When you have the post career talent, you GM. When you don't have the post career talent, you write in a paper or become an analyst.

YMCMBeaulieu 05-26-2008 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by habfan4 (Post 14214755)
Making the "sell high" point doesn't exactly require a razor sharp intellect. Let's be honest if it was anyone else besides The Flower making a point this mundane they would have been laughed off the dais a long time ago.

The "sell high" point doesn't even make much sense either, right now we are BUYERS and if Koivu was traded he would be traded to another team contending and they would most likely be offering prospects and picks, not an impact player which would help us now, and this would be a step back for the team.

Artyukhin* 05-26-2008 12:09 PM

so Koivu to Toronto and Sundin to Montreal

i can see it now

Squeaky 05-26-2008 12:11 PM

Can someone please explain to me why we need to choose between Koivu and Kovalev? Don't we have like 10 million in cap space or something? This reeks of a manufactured controversy to me.

ari1160 05-26-2008 12:13 PM

i can not believe he would say that not to sign saku...
am so sad right now and pissed off. sure he said its only a business, but saku have been great in playoffs, and its NOT a one man show down.
every player has to bring something on the table, and saku has brought a lot more then any other habs players for the past few years, since Pierre Turgeon, vincent damphousse, and mark recchi left the team.

habfan4 05-26-2008 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Chezzz (Post 14214820)
so Koivu to Toronto and Sundin to Montreal

i can see it now

I thought you decided to refrain from drinking hard liquor before 5:00 pm?

anarmandaleb 05-26-2008 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by habfan4 (Post 14214851)
I thought you decided to refrain from drinking hard liquor before 5:00 pm?

That was Lord Chezz. This is Lord Chezzz.


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