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I Eat Crow 05-27-2008 01:44 PM

The New York Rangers 4 years from now
 
I saw a similar thread on the Sabres board, and I thought it would be fun to predict what the Rangers would look like in 4 years. This is nothing but speculation, and should not be taken all too seriously. It might look something like this:

Kovalchuk-Gomez-Dubinsky (yes, I think he could be moved to wing)
Petrov/possible Russian draft pick-Anisimov-Cherepanov
Dawes-Drury-Korpikoski
Byers/Dupont-Betts?-Prospect

Staal-Pitkanen/Bouwmeester
Sauer-Sanguinetti
Girardi-FA/draftee

Lundqvist
LeNeveau/Wiikman

Of course, there will be surprises in the 08 draft that may work out for the Rangers and they could be fixtures on this team for a long time (see Lundqvist). The 09 and 10 drafts are also looking very good, but I doubt any of those draftees will make it to the show until 2011 the earliest, unless the Rangers are atrocious in any of the next 3 years and they draft a first line talent right off the bat.

What do you think? Yes, some of you may think that the idea is stupid, but I thought it'd be fun to discuss something like this during this very long offseason. Fire away! :)

Fletch 05-27-2008 01:55 PM

I think..
 
that it's difficult enough trying to figure out next season's roster, let alone four years out. Waay too many variables, including several drafts that could net some decent players.

UAGoalieGuy 05-27-2008 02:02 PM

I'd love to see a line of either:

Filatov - Anisimov - Chereponov

or

Kovalcuk - Anisimov - Chereponov

Fletch is right though, there are a lot of variables to even give a general idea of what the Rangers will look like in 4 years (IE trades/injuries/poor play/drafts etc).

NYR Viper 05-27-2008 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch (Post 14226740)
that it's difficult enough trying to figure out next season's roster, let alone four years out. Waay too many variables, including several drafts that could net some decent players.

this is the truth, however it is fun to think about:

kovalchuk-gomez-cheraponov
drury-dubinsky-dawes
korpikoski-anisimov-hagelin
byers-pyatt-orr/dupont

staal-JBo(PLEASE!!!)
sanguinetti-girardi
sauer-tyutin

I Eat Crow 05-27-2008 02:08 PM

Edited to include Dupont as the possible 4th line winger, although I believe he has higher upside than that.

Of course there are a lot of variables as a couple of people have mentioned, but it is very fun to think about. I guarantee that what I wrote in as the lineup in this thread will be vastly different than what the actual lineup will be. Too many things can happen in 4 years that can bring a franchise in one direction or another.

chosen 05-27-2008 02:09 PM

Ovechkin-Crosby-Malkin
Datsyuk-Zetterberg-Franzen
Ladd-J. Staal-Dubinsky
Juha Widing-Gene Carr-Dave Balon

Phaneuf-Malik
M. Staal-Gary Doak
Tim Horton-Lucille McGillicutty

Lundqvist
Gilles Gratton

NYR Viper 05-27-2008 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UAGoalieGuy (Post 14226798)
I'd love to see a line of either:

Filatov - Anisimov - Chereponov

or

Kovalcuk - Anisimov - Chereponov

Fletch is right though, there are a lot of variables to even give a general idea of what the Rangers will look like in 4 years (IE trades/injuries/poor play/drafts etc).

i would love any of those lines as well......although i would love to get cheraponov, anisimov, filitov and kovalchuk

Trxjw 05-27-2008 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chosen (Post 14226883)
Ovechkin-Crosby-Malkin
Datsyuk-Zetterberg-Franzen
Ladd-J. Staal-Dubinsky
Juha Widing-Gene Carr-Dave Balon

Phaneuf-Malik
M. Staal-Gary Doak
Tim Horton-Lucille McGillicutty

Lundqvist
Gilles Gratton

:laugh: @ Malik

Lundqvist=Vezina 05-27-2008 02:35 PM

What is with the obsession of an all Russian line? You guys do realize that Russians play with people from other countries and have success, right?

NYR Viper 05-27-2008 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lundqvist=Vezina (Post 14227184)
What is with the obsession of an all Russian line? You guys do realize that Russians play with people from other countries and have success, right?

yea, but just imagine sam tryng to commentate a line of:
cheraponov-anismov-filitov
:amazed::amazed::amazed:HAHAHA

but in all seriousness, its just that all of those players are all different and their playing styles seem to normally compliment eachothers

anisimov- big bodied, good all around center who has great vision and great hands
cheraponov- sniper with great hands and vision, good at finding open ice
kovalchuk- sniper, plays with a lot of passion, very quick, strong
filitov- good all around winger with great hands and great vision

normally players who can finish and have great vision work well together because all are threats to shoot and all are threats to make the nice pass to set a goal up

Bluenote13 05-27-2008 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockeyviper87 (Post 14226813)
this is the truth, however it is fun to think about:

No its not.

Ogrodnick-Kisio-Mullen
Miller-Ridley-Larouche
Johnstone-Allison-Duguay
Kontos-Millen-Sundstrom

Beck-Greschner
Djoos-Liba
Hospodar-Bothwell

Mio
Soetaert

NYR Viper 05-27-2008 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluenote13 (Post 14227907)
No its not.

Ogrodnick-Kisio-Mullen
Miller-Ridley-Larouche
Johnstone-Allison-Duguay
Kontos-Millen-Sundstrom

Beck-Greschner
Djoos-Liba
Hospodar-Bothwell

Mio
Soetaert

well that is your opinion...if you dont like it or want to talk about it, you dont HAVE to reply to every thread

Bluenote13 05-27-2008 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockeyviper87 (Post 14227982)
well that is your opinion...if you dont like it or want to talk about it, you dont HAVE to reply to every thread

These threads are taking over, people need to find new subjects besides bringing up the cap and our roster every other post.

Or just don't post, thats my fave.

Trxjw 05-27-2008 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluenote13 (Post 14228051)
These threads are taking over, people need to find new subjects besides bringing up the cap and our roster every other post.

Or just don't post, thats my fave.

Ah yes. People must find new things to talk about because they aren't the things you want to talk about.

Got it.


The season is over for us. Do you really come onto the boards looking for anything other than roster threads?

NYR Viper 05-27-2008 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluenote13 (Post 14228051)
These threads are taking over, people need to find new subjects besides bringing up the cap and our roster every other post.

Or just don't post, thats my fave.

lol, i understand where you are coming from, sorry if it came acrossed as a bit negative, there just isnt much going on around here, or anywhere for hockey, so its interesting to think about the future because that is all there is

Bluenote13 05-27-2008 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trxjw (Post 14228099)
Ah yes. People must find new things to talk about because they aren't the things you want to talk about.

Got it.


The season is over for us. Do you really come onto the boards looking for anything other than roster threads?

I've been around here too long maybe your right. Every offseason its the same thing, and NO ONE ever gets any of these rosters even close. Look at the ones after we signed Gomez/Drury, no one got it close even then. My problem is people state their opinions like its fact, gotta laugh, but sometimes i cry at how many threads there are, totally ridiculous.

Bluenote13 05-27-2008 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockeyviper87 (Post 14228105)
lol, i understand where you are coming from, sorry if it came acrossed as a bit negative, there just isnt much going on around here, or anywhere for hockey, so its interesting to think about the future because that is all there is

Do you REALLY find the Jorts type threads on signing 3/4 of the league this summer interesting? Its totally obnoxious.

Capitain Midnight 05-27-2008 04:09 PM

2003-04 NEW YORK RANGERS ROSTER
Friday, April 2, 1:01 PM

#NEW YORK RANGERS#
------------------
Active
SW# Name Pos Height Weight Born Birthplace
3 TOM POTI D 6.03 208 lbs. 03/22/1977 WORCESTER, MA, USA
5 DALE PURINTON D 6.02 220 lbs. 10/11/1976 FORT WAYNE, IN, USA
10 SANDY MCCARTHY RW 6.03 223 lbs. 06/15/1972 TORONTO, ON, CAN
11 MARK MESSIER C 6.02 211 lbs. 01/18/1961 EDMONTON, AB, CAN
16 BOBBY HOLIK C 6.04 235 lbs. 01/01/1971 JIHLAVA, CZE
18 CORY LAROSE C 6.00 191 lbs. 05/14/1975 CAMPBELLTON, NB, CAN
20 *JOZEF BALEJ RW 6.01 191 lbs. 02/22/1982 MYJAV, SVK
21 JAMIE LUNDMARK C 6.00 195 lbs. 01/16/1981 EDMONTON, AB, CAN
22 *THOMAS POCK D 6.01 208 lbs. 12/02/1981 KLAGENFURT, AUT
23 KAREL RACHUNEK D 6.02 212 lbs. 08/27/1979 ZLINWALDOW, CZE
24 CHRIS MCALLISTER LW 6.07 250 lbs. 06/16/1975 SASKATOON, SK, CAN
25 *GARTH MURRAY LW 6.01 207 lbs. 09/17/1982 REGINA, SK, CAN
28 *LAWRENCE NYCHOLAT D 6.00 194 lbs. 05/07/1979 CALGARY, AB, CAN
29 BORIS MIRONOV D 6.04 223 lbs. 03/21/1972 MOSCOW, RUS
30 MIKE DUNHAM G 6.02 200 lbs. 06/01/1972 JOHNSON CITY, NY, USA
33 JAMIE MCLENNAN G 6.00 195 lbs. 06/30/1971 EDMONTON, AB, CAN
37 JAN HLAVAC LW 6.00 200 lbs. 09/20/1976 PRAGUE, CZE
39 DAN LACOUTURE LW 6.03 215 lbs. 04/18/1977 HYANNIS, MA, USA
41 *JED ORTMEYER RW 6.01 189 lbs. 09/03/1978 OMAHA, NE, USA
44 JOSH GREEN LW 6.04 224 lbs. 11/16/1977 CAMROSE, AB, CAN
47 *MIKE GREEN C 5.11 195 lbs. 08/23/1979 VICTORIA, BC, CAN
68 JAROMIR JAGR RW 6.03 224 lbs. 02/15/1972 KLADNO, CZE
74 JOEL BOUCHARD D 6.01 209 lbs. 01/23/1974 MONTREAL, QC, CAN
LAYNE ULMER C 6.00 193 lbs. 09/14/1980 NO. BATTLEFORD, SK, CAN

Injury Reserve List
6 DARIUS KASPARAITIS D 6.00 215 lbs. 10/16/1972 ELEKTRENAI, LTU 01/19/2004
To IRL: 01/19/2004
13 *RICHARD SCOTT RW 6.02 210 lbs. 08/01/1978 ORILLIANE, ON, CAN 12/04/2003
To IRL: 12/04/2003
15 BLAIR BETTS C 6.03 209 lbs. 02/16/1980 EDMONTON, AB, CAN 12/29/2003
To IRL: 12/29/2003
88 ERIC LINDROS C 6.05 237 lbs. 02/28/1973 LONDON, ON, CAN 01/28/2004
To IRL: 01/28/2004

Bluenote13 05-27-2008 04:13 PM

Thats exactly my point, thanks Captain ;)

The Thomas J.* 05-27-2008 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gomez to Jagr (Post 14226609)
I saw a similar thread on the Sabres board, and I thought it would be fun to predict what the Rangers would look like in 4 years. This is nothing but speculation, and should not be taken all too seriously. It might look something like this:

Kovalchuk-Gomez-Dubinsky (yes, I think he could be moved to wing)
Petrov/possible Russian draft pick-Anisimov-Cherepanov
Dawes-Drury-Korpikoski
Byers/Dupont-Betts?-Prospect

Staal-Pitkanen/Bouwmeester
Sauer-Sanguinetti
Girardi-FA/draftee

Lundqvist
LeNeveau/Wiikman

Of course, there will be surprises in the 08 draft that may work out for the Rangers and they could be fixtures on this team for a long time (see Lundqvist). The 09 and 10 drafts are also looking very good, but I doubt any of those draftees will make it to the show until 2011 the earliest, unless the Rangers are atrocious in any of the next 3 years and they draft a first line talent right off the bat.

What do you think? Yes, some of you may think that the idea is stupid, but I thought it'd be fun to discuss something like this during this very long offseason. Fire away! :)


I guess you gave up on Bouret.

hlundqvist30* 05-27-2008 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch (Post 14226740)
that it's difficult enough trying to figure out next season's roster, let alone four years out. Waay too many variables, including several drafts that could net some decent players.

The Truth. Jagr, Shanny, Straka, Avery, Rozsival, Hollweg, and Prucha are basically all 50/50 on whether they are coming back or not. We could see a very similar team next year, or we could see a total overhaul. I don't know if it will be as interesting as last offseason, but this offseason sure is going to be a real big test for Sather and Co.

ftyutin51 05-27-2008 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capitain Midnight (Post 14228255)
2003-04 NEW YORK RANGERS ROSTER
Friday, April 2, 1:01 PM

#NEW YORK RANGERS#
------------------
Active
SW# Name Pos Height Weight Born Birthplace
3 TOM POTI D 6.03 208 lbs. 03/22/1977 WORCESTER, MA, USA
5 DALE PURINTON D 6.02 220 lbs. 10/11/1976 FORT WAYNE, IN, USA
10 SANDY MCCARTHY RW 6.03 223 lbs. 06/15/1972 TORONTO, ON, CAN
11 MARK MESSIER C 6.02 211 lbs. 01/18/1961 EDMONTON, AB, CAN
16 BOBBY HOLIK C 6.04 235 lbs. 01/01/1971 JIHLAVA, CZE
18 CORY LAROSE C 6.00 191 lbs. 05/14/1975 CAMPBELLTON, NB, CAN
20 *JOZEF BALEJ RW 6.01 191 lbs. 02/22/1982 MYJAV, SVK
21 JAMIE LUNDMARK C 6.00 195 lbs. 01/16/1981 EDMONTON, AB, CAN
22 *THOMAS POCK D 6.01 208 lbs. 12/02/1981 KLAGENFURT, AUT
23 KAREL RACHUNEK D 6.02 212 lbs. 08/27/1979 ZLINWALDOW, CZE
24 CHRIS MCALLISTER LW 6.07 250 lbs. 06/16/1975 SASKATOON, SK, CAN
25 *GARTH MURRAY LW 6.01 207 lbs. 09/17/1982 REGINA, SK, CAN
28 *LAWRENCE NYCHOLAT D 6.00 194 lbs. 05/07/1979 CALGARY, AB, CAN
29 BORIS MIRONOV D 6.04 223 lbs. 03/21/1972 MOSCOW, RUS
30 MIKE DUNHAM G 6.02 200 lbs. 06/01/1972 JOHNSON CITY, NY, USA
33 JAMIE MCLENNAN G 6.00 195 lbs. 06/30/1971 EDMONTON, AB, CAN
37 JAN HLAVAC LW 6.00 200 lbs. 09/20/1976 PRAGUE, CZE
39 DAN LACOUTURE LW 6.03 215 lbs. 04/18/1977 HYANNIS, MA, USA
41 *JED ORTMEYER RW 6.01 189 lbs. 09/03/1978 OMAHA, NE, USA
44 JOSH GREEN LW 6.04 224 lbs. 11/16/1977 CAMROSE, AB, CAN
47 *MIKE GREEN C 5.11 195 lbs. 08/23/1979 VICTORIA, BC, CAN
68 JAROMIR JAGR RW 6.03 224 lbs. 02/15/1972 KLADNO, CZE
74 JOEL BOUCHARD D 6.01 209 lbs. 01/23/1974 MONTREAL, QC, CAN
LAYNE ULMER C 6.00 193 lbs. 09/14/1980 NO. BATTLEFORD, SK, CAN

Injury Reserve List
6 DARIUS KASPARAITIS D 6.00 215 lbs. 10/16/1972 ELEKTRENAI, LTU 01/19/2004
To IRL: 01/19/2004
13 *RICHARD SCOTT RW 6.02 210 lbs. 08/01/1978 ORILLIANE, ON, CAN 12/04/2003
To IRL: 12/04/2003
15 BLAIR BETTS C 6.03 209 lbs. 02/16/1980 EDMONTON, AB, CAN 12/29/2003
To IRL: 12/29/2003
88 ERIC LINDROS C 6.05 237 lbs. 02/28/1973 LONDON, ON, CAN 01/28/2004
To IRL: 01/28/2004


All the Rangers were missing is Marek Malik. Thank god we have him now.

CM Lundqvist 05-27-2008 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chosen (Post 14226883)
Ovechkin-Crosby-Malkin
Datsyuk-Zetterberg-Franzen
Ladd-J. Staal-Dubinsky
Juha Widing-Gene Carr-Dave Balon

Phaneuf-Malik
M. Staal-Gary Doak
Tim Horton-Lucille McGillicutty

Lundqvist
Gilles Gratton

LMFAO @ Dave Balon & Malik.

This team would be complete.


However...

Messier-Graves-Amonte
Turcotte-Ogrodnick-Gartner
Nemchinov-Erixon-Bourque
King-Domi-Kocur

Leetch-Beukeboom
Cirella-Patrick
Djoos-Hardy
Rochefort

Richter
Vanbiesbrouck

I Eat Crow 05-27-2008 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Thomas J. (Post 14228301)
I guess you gave up on Bouret.

I haven't given up on Bourret. I do however have my doubts that he will be a Ranger a couple years down the line.

Plato 05-27-2008 07:18 PM

I love how people put Filatov on their teams as if the Rangers will draft him this year.


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