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Stars99Lobo37 06-12-2008 04:54 PM

The Shoot Out
 
2008-2009 Shoot Out
Record: 4-4
Home: 3-2
Away: 1-2
Goals: 13-12

Shooters
Fabian Brunnstrom: 0 For 2
Loui Eriksson: 1 For 4
Jere Lehtinen: 1 For 2
Mike Modano: 2 For 4
James Neal: 2 For 3
Mark Parrish: 0 For 1
Mike Ribeiro: 5 For 8
Brad Richards: 2 For 7
Sergei Zubov: 0 For 2
Team: 13 For 33 | 13 Goals

Goaltenders
Turco: 4-4 | 20 Saves - 32 Shots | 12 Goals Against
Stephan: 0-0 | 0 Saves - 0 Shots | 0 Goals Against
Team: 4-4 | 20 Saves - 32 Shots | 12 Goals Against

Shoot Out Games
1) 11/11/08 | @ Los Angeles | L 3-2
Shoot Out Score: 2-1 | Dallas Goaltender: Marty Turco

2) 11/22/08 | vs Anaheim | L 2-1
Shoot Out Score: 2-1 | Dallas Goaltender: Marty Turco

3) 12/05/08 | vs Colorado | W 2-1
Shoot Out Score: 2-1 | Dallas Goaltender: Marty Turco

4) 12/18/08 | vs Columbus | W 6-5
Shoot Out Score: 2-0 | Dallas Goaltender: Marty Turco

5) 1/04/09 | @ Vancouver | W 3-2
Shoot Out Score: 3-2 | Dallas Goaltender: Marty Turco

6) 1/10/09 | @ Phoenix | L 1-0
Shoot Out Score: 3-2 | Dallas Goaltender: Marty Turco

7) 1/15/09 | vs Buffalo | L 5-4
Shoot Out Score: 2-1 | Dallas Goaltender: Marty Turco

8) 1/17/09 | vs Los Angeles | W 3-2
Shoot Out Score: 1-0 | Dallas Goaltender: Marty Turco

All-Time Shoot Out Stats
Record: 30-12
Home: 12-5
Away: 18-7
Goals: 66-41

Shooters
Jason Arnott - 0 For 1 - 0 Game Winners
Stu Barnes - 1 For 2 - 1 Game Winner
Fabian Brunnstrom - 0 For 2
Loui Eriksson - 1 For 6
Bill Guerin - 1 For 1
Niklas Hagman - 1 For 4 - 1 Game Winner
Jussi Jokinen - 17 For 29 - 6 Game Winners
Niko Kapanen - 0 For 1
Eric Lindros - 1 For 1
Jere Lehtinen - 2 For 8 - 1 Game Winner
Antti Miettinen - 3 For 9 - 2 Game Winners
Mike Modano - 7 For 20 - 4 Game Winners
Brenden Morrow - 2 For 2 - 2 Game Winners
Ladislav Nagy - 1 For 2 - 1 Game Winner
James Neal - 2 For 3 - 1 Game Winner
Mark Parrish - 0 For 1
Mike Ribeiro - 10 For 22 - 3 Game Winners
Brad Richards - 3 For 8 - 1 Game Winner
Patrik Stefan - 0 For 1
Sergei Zubov - 13 For 31 - 7 Game Winners
Team - 59 For 123 - 59 Goals

Goaltenders
Johan Hedberg - 14 of 17 Saves - 4-0 Record
Mike Smith - 9 of 9 Saves - 3-0 Record
Marty Turco - 90 of 128 Saves - 23-12 Record
Team - 113 of 154 Saves - 30-12 Record

Shoot Out Games
1) 11/05/05 | @ Colorado | W 3-2
Shoot Out Score: 2-0 | Dallas Goaltender: Marty Turco

2) 11/12/05 | @ San Jose | W 3-2
Shoot Out Score: 2-0 | Dallas Goaltender: Marty Turco

3) 12/02/05 | vs Carolina | W 5-4
Shoot Out Score: 2-1 | Dallas Goaltender: Johan Hedberg

4) 1/06/06 | vs Anaheim | W 4-3
Shoot Out Score: 2-1 | Dallas Goaltender: Johan Hedberg [4 Rounds]

5) 1/14/06 | @ Boston | W 2-1
Shoot Out Score: 1-0 | Dallas Goaltender: Marty Turco

6) 1/25/06 | vs St.Louis | W 4-3
Shoot Out Score: 2-0 | Dallas Goaltender: Marty Turco

7) 1/26/06 | @ Colorado | W 3-2
Shoot Out Score: 2-1 | Dallas Goaltender: Marty Turco

8) 1/28/06 | vs Detroit | W 2-1
Shoot Out Score: 3-2 | Dallas Goaltender: Marty Turco [4 Rounds]

9) 3/07/06 | @ Edmonton | W 4-3
Shoot Out Score: 2-0 | Dallas Goaltender: Marty Turco

10) 3/18/06 | @ San Jose | W 4-3
Shoot Out Score: 2-1 | Dallas Goaltender: Marty Turco [4 Rounds]

11) 3/24/06 | vs Chicago | W 3-2
Shoot Out Score: 2-1 | Dallas Goaltender: Johan Hedberg [8 Rounds]

12) 3/31/06 | @ Anaheim | L 5-4
Shoot Out Score: 2-0 | Dallas Goaltender: Marty Turco

13) 4/08/06 | @ Phoenix | W 3-2
Shoot Out Score: 2-0 | Dallas Goaltender: Johan Hedberg

14) 10/15/06 | @ Anaheim | W 4-3
Shoot Out Score: 2-1 | Dallas Goaltender: Marty Turco

15) 12/02/06 | vs Minnesota | W 4-3
Shoot Out Score: 3-1 | Dallas Goaltender: Marty Turco

16) 12/16/06 | @ Los Angeles | W 4-3
Shoot Out Score: 1-0 | Dallas Goaltender: Marty Turco

17) 1/03/07 | @ Vancouver | L 2-1
Shoot Out Score: 2-1 | Dallas Goaltender: Marty Turco [6 Rounds]

18) 1/04/07 | @ Edmonton | W 6-5
Shoot Out Score: 2-0 | Dallas Goaltender: Marty Turco

19) 1/20/07 | @ Minnesota | W 2-1
Shoot Out Score: 3-2 | Dallas Goaltender: Marty Turco [9 Rounds]

20) 1/26/07 | vs Pittsburgh | L 4-3
Shoot Out Score: 1-0 | Dallas Goaltender: Marty Turco

21) 1/30/07 | @ San Jose | W 3-2
Shoot Out Score: 3-2 | Dallas Goaltender: Marty Turco

22) 2/17/07 | @ Minnesota | L 2-1
Shoot Out Score: 1-0 | Dallas Goaltender: Marty Turco

23) 3/02/07 | vs Columbus | L 3-2
Shoot Out Score: 1-0 | Dallas Goaltender: Marty Turco

24) 3/24/07 | @ Phoenix | W 4-3
Shoot Out Score: 1-0 | Dallas Goaltender: Marty Turco [7 Rounds]

25) 3/30/07 | @ Detroit | W 4-3
Shoot Out Score: 1-0 | Dallas Goaltender: Mike Smith

26) 4/06/07 | vs Anaheim | W 2-1
Shoot Out Score: 1-0 | Dallas Goaltender: Marty Turco [4 Rounds]

27) 10/17/07 | @ Columbus | W 3-2
Shoot Out Score: 1-0 | Dallas Goaltender: Mike Smith

28) 11/14/07 | vs San Jose | L 4-3
Shoot Out Score: 2-0 | Dallas Goaltender: Marty Turco

29) 12/03/07 | @ Columbus | W 2-1
Shoot Out Score: 3-2 | Dallas Goaltender: Marty Turco [5 Rounds]

30) 12/18/07 | @ Edmonton | W 2-1
Shoot Out Score: 1-0 | Dallas Goaltender: Marty Turco

31) 12/29/07 | vs St.Louis | W 5-4
Shoot Out Score: 1-0 | Dallas Goaltender: Mike Smith

32) 1/12/08 | @ Los Angeles | W 4-3
Shoot Out Score: 2-1 | Dallas Goaltender: Marty Turco [4 Rounds]

33) 2/05/08 | vs Vancouver | W 3-2
Shoot Out Score: 2-1 | Dallas Goaltender: Marty Turco [6 Rounds]

34) 3/30/08 | @ Anaheim | L 3-2
Shoot Out Score: 2-1 | Dallas Goaltender: Marty Turco

35) 11/11/08 | @ Los Angeles | L 3-2
Shoot Out Score: 2-1 | Dallas Goaltender: Marty Turco

36) 11/22/08 | vs Anaheim | L 3-2
Shoot Out Score: 2-1 | Dallas Goaltender: Marty Turco

37) 12/05/08 | vs Colorado | W 2-1
Shoot Out Score: 2-1 | Dallas Goaltender: Marty Turco [4 Rounds]

38) 12/18/08 | vs Columbus | W 6-5
Shoot Out Score: 2-0 | Dallas Goaltender: Marty Turco

39) 1/04/09 | @ Vancouver | W 4-3
Shoot Out Score: 3-2 | Dallas Goaltender: Marty Turco [5 Rounds]

40) 1/10/09 | @ Phoenix | L 1-0
Shoot Out Score: 3-2 | Dallas Goaltender: Marty Turco [5 Rounds]

41) 1/15/09 | vs Buffalo | L 5-4
Shoot Out Score: 2-1 | Dallas Goaltender: Marty Turco [6 Rounds]

Records
Anaheim: Overall 3-3 | Home 2-1 | Away 1-2
Boston: Overall 1-0 | Home 0-0 | Away 1-0
Buffalo: Overall 0-1 | Home 0-1 | Away 0-0
Carolina: Overall 1-0 | Home 1-0 | Away 0-0
Chicago: Overall 1-0 | Home 1-0 | Away 0-0
Colorado: Overall 3-0 | Home 1-0 | Away 2-0
Columbus: Overall 3-1 | Home 1-1 | Away 2-0
Detroit: Overall 2-0 | Home 1-0 | Away 1-0
Edmonton: Overall 3-0 | Home 0-0 | Away 3-0
Los Angeles: Overall 3-1 | Home 1-0 | Away 2-1
Minnesota: Overall 2-1 | Home 1-0 | Away 1-1
Phoenix: Overall 2-1 | Home 0-0 | Away 2-1
Pittsburgh: Overall 0-1 | Home 0-1 | Away 0-0
San Jose: Overall 3-1 | Home 0-1 | Away 3-0
Saint Louis: Overall 2-0 | Home 2-0 | Away 0-0
Vancouver: Overall 2-1 | Home 1-0 | Away 1-1

Extra Shooters
Shootouts that have gone 4 rounds: 12
Shootouts that have gone 5 rounds: 8
Shootouts that have gone 6 rounds: 6
Shootouts that have gone 7 rounds: 3
Shootouts that have gone 8 rounds: 2
Shootouts that have gone 9 rounds: 1
Shootouts that have gone 10 rounds: 0

eartotheground 06-12-2008 08:29 PM

Jussi of old, Oh Jussi of old, wherefore art thou Jussi?

batmansuncle 06-12-2008 09:56 PM

You just know that the next time we play Tampa it will go to a shoot out and Jussi will score the winner :cry:

piqued 06-12-2008 11:32 PM

So... what do you guys think should be the Stars' shooting order next year? Things were kinda thrown into flux toward the end with Jussi getting traded and Zubov hurt. Plus there just weren't that many.

I'd go with-
1. Richards
2. Zubov
3. Morrow
---
4. Ribeiro
5. Modano
6. Lehtinen

My reasoning is that Richards' speed burst as the 1st shooter could really put the goalie back on his heels, then they get overanxious for Zubov who waits for them to drop.... top shelf. Plus Morrow seems like he buries nearly every breakaway these days and I like the idea of the Captain as the anchor.

Stars99Lobo37 06-12-2008 11:43 PM

I have a hard time not putting Ribeiro in the top 3 simply because he is the only one on our team that loves doing those deke moves.

I don't think it'll be a set order, however, like we're use to.

aisforaaron83 06-13-2008 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piqued1457 (Post 14394663)
So... what do you guys think should be the Stars' shooting order next year? Things were kinda thrown into flux toward the end with Jussi getting traded and Zubov hurt. Plus there just weren't that many.

I'd go with-
1. Richards
2. Zubov
3. Morrow
---
4. Ribeiro
5. Modano
6. Lehtinen

My reasoning is that Richards' speed burst as the 1st shooter could really put the goalie back on his heels, then they get overanxious for Zubov who waits for them to drop.... top shelf. Plus Morrow seems like he buries nearly every breakaway these days and I like the idea of the Captain as the anchor.

I like your idea of Richards first and Zubov second. good reasoning. I would, however, probably send Ribeiro, Lehtinen, or Modano before I sent Morrow on the shootout. My list would be as follows.

Richards
Zubov
Ribeiro
-
Lehtinen
Modano
Morrow

I would love to see Loui take one, and you have to love Robidas' slapper shoot out goal in preseason last year!

I hope that Turco absolutely stones Jussi if we get in a shootout with them next season. Althought Mr. Smith at the other end still has yet to allow even I shootout goal. Good thread

Stars99Lobo37 06-13-2008 10:11 AM

Both teams Loui has taken a shoot out goal (if I remember correctly), he's just plain screwed it up.

Since I didn't list my top 6...here's mine. (I do agree, I love that Richards starts)

1) Richards
2) Zubov
3) Ribeiro
4) Morrow (He really has learned how to put away a breakaway. I think we all remember how he use to get 34533453 breakaways and net maybe 1 of them).
5) Modano
6) Lehtinen

taloncarde15 06-13-2008 11:23 AM

If Hagman can start potting some of his chances (if he stays with the team of course) he might also be a good shootout canidate, i'd put him at 7th on the lists people have mentioned though.

I'd go
1)Richards
2)Zubov
3)Modano

with
4)Ribiero
5)Lehtinen
6)Morrow
7)Hagman

However, I think i'd only set the top 2 as static, and for the 3rd put in the hot hand of the night among my last 4. But Richards and Zubov are good starters because of their different styles to totally throw the goalies off.

________ 07-11-2008 09:11 PM

Richards
Zubov

Morrow or Ribeiro

If it goes past 3 shooters
4 Morrow or Ribeiro
5 Brunnström
6 Lehtinen

Niskanen
Modano

I'm not a fan of when Modano is in the shootout, I'm not sure at all how Avery is, but it's weird sometimes the players you don't expect to be good at them are.
Like some stay at home defenseman are fairly good at it, at least in practice I've heard on some teams.

aisforaaron83 07-12-2008 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by batmansuncle (Post 14393726)
You just know that the next time we play Tampa it will go to a shoot out and Jussi will score the winner :cry:

Jussi wont be in tampa anymore. I would assume he gets traded to a team like Vancouver who desperately need offensive help.

wingsfan17 07-13-2008 02:37 PM

Neal was 4 for 5 with 3 game winners 2 years ago with plymouth. He was 2 for 5 last year with Iowa with 1 game winner. That's 6 for 10 with 4 game winners over the last 2 years. I could see Neal being in the mix if he makes the team.

Caseman 07-13-2008 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wingsfan17 (Post 14858387)
Neal was 4 for 5 with 3 game winners 2 years ago with plymouth. He was 2 for 5 last year with Iowa with 1 game winner. That's 6 for 10 with 4 game winners over the last 2 years. I could see Neal being in the mix if he makes the team.

I'm pretty sure the goaltenders in the NHL are a bit tougher. Those numbers don't blow me away. He doesn't even sniff the top 6 spots for me.

________ 07-13-2008 08:47 PM

I'd consider Neal around the sixth spot(but how often do they go that long, not that much), if he's good at them in practice. Rather have him out there then Modano.

Caseman 07-13-2008 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ________ (Post 14861588)
I'd consider Neal around the sixth spot(but how often do they go that long, not that much), if he's good at them in practice. Rather have him out there then Modano.

Really? ...heh

wingsfan17 07-13-2008 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caseman (Post 14860751)
I'm pretty sure the goaltenders in the NHL are a bit tougher. Those numbers don't blow me away. He doesn't even sniff the top 6 spots for me.

True, but in 3-4 seasons of me watching him play he scored because he had moves that'd beat any goalie, not cause the goalies were bad. I agree that the numbers aren't amazing and it's not like I'd put him in the top 3 or anything, but I think he could get a couple chances this year if he is brought up.

BigG44 07-13-2008 09:44 PM

Career Stats
PlayerGoalsAttemptsPercentage
Brenden Morrow22100.0%
Brad Richards142556.0%
Sergei Zubov132944.8%
Mike Ribeiro61540.0%
Mike Modano51631.3%
Jere Lehtinen1616.7%
Sean Avery020.0%
Loui Eriksson020.0%

________ 07-13-2008 10:48 PM

Modano has one move that's the thing I don't like about him in the shootout.

piqued 07-14-2008 12:12 AM

Modano had that other move he tried for a while where he'd come in, deke hard to his backhand, then swerve right in front of the net onto his forehand and try to stuff it in next to the near post before the goalie's skate could get over. I think it only worked once or so. Awkward.

The key with using Modano depends on the goalie. If he's short, let Modano go hunting for the top shelf. If he's tall, send out Ribeiro to zig-zag his way in.

Stars99Lobo37 07-14-2008 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piqued1457 (Post 14863471)
Modano had that other move he tried for a while where he'd come in, deke hard to his backhand, then swerve right in front of the net onto his forehand and try to stuff it in next to the near post before the goalie's skate could get over. I think it only worked once or so. Awkward.

The one time it worked, was against Carolina, and their own goalie knocked it in with the butt of his stick. :laugh::laugh:

________ 07-14-2008 12:30 AM

I've always seen him just skate right in and shoot high glove with a wrist shot the past two years that's the only thing I hate about him in the shootout it's the same thing and it's not like it's a great chance of scoring on it.
At least with someone unknown at least the goalie won't know what to expect.

piqued 07-14-2008 12:37 AM

Is there a rule that prevents Turco from shooting?

In soccer goalies can take penalty kicks for their team.

edit: well, I looked it up.
Quote:

Three (3) players from each team shall participate in the shootout
and they shall proceed in such order as the Coach selects. All players
are eligible to participate in the shootout unless they are serving a tenminute
misconduct or have been assessed a game misconduct or
match penalty.
The only problem might be some legalese where a goalie isn't considered a "player". Although I also didn't see a section on definitions that specifically said that...

Stars99Lobo37 11-12-2008 12:40 AM

Dallas falls to Los Angeles, in the shoot out, for the very first time. 3-2 the score, 2-1 the shoot out score.

Stars99Lobo37 12-05-2008 11:00 PM

Dallas improves to 3-0 against Colorado in the shoot out with a 2-1 come-from-behind shoot out victory.

piqued 12-11-2008 12:39 PM

Check out the the Ribs vs. Bob Sturm shootout video on the official site, pretty funny stuff.

wingsfan17 01-05-2009 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wingsfan17 (Post 14858387)
Neal was 4 for 5 with 3 game winners 2 years ago with plymouth. He was 2 for 5 last year with Iowa with 1 game winner. That's 6 for 10 with 4 game winners over the last 2 years. I could see Neal being in the mix if he makes the team.

Neal 1 for 1 with the game winner! :yo:


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