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007 06-27-2008 06:40 PM

Interesting aside from Dellapina's blog about Prucha
 
What interests me here is less the question about Straka, it's this part:

Quote:

Fact is, it is difficult to imagine how the Rangers would have tried to re-sign a 35-year-old Straka. They’d like to clear lineup space for younger forwards such as Ryan Callahan, Nigel Dawes and Petr Prucha and have major interest in upgrading up front by signing somebody like Ryan Malone.
Through his tough season, there was a lot of talk of the Rangers getting rid Prucha and there is still talk of him as a trading chip, but it seems that the Rangers may not have given up on him.

I for one am glad. I'm hoping that last year was an anomaly.

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/ran...a-word-ab.html

silverfish 06-27-2008 06:51 PM

I'm just afraid if we give up on Prucha and trade him he'll become a consistent 25 goal scorer on that team. But I also don't like seeing him rot in the press box.

jas 06-27-2008 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by NYRangers3018 (Post 14597690)
I'm just afraid if we give up on Prucha and trade him he'll become a consistent 25 goal scorer on that team. But I also don't like seeing him rot in the press box.

I could care less what Prucha does in his new address, as long as the player that comes back helps the Rangers win.

NYR1724 06-27-2008 07:13 PM

I think that the Rangers are going to give Prucha another chance this year. With the potential departures of Avery, Straka, Shanny, and Jags - they obviously have four spots open on the top two lines. They may give Pru another chance to show some of that form from his rookie season with an expanded role in the offense. Time will tell. My hope is that the Rangers re-sign Jagr, snag a forward like Rolston, and then let kids like Byers and Korpedo make the team to fill out the roster. I don't think they will head in that direction, but I guess that's why I am not the GM.

we want cup 06-27-2008 07:14 PM

Thing is, Prucha can really help the Rangers win himself if Renney gives him the minutes and PP time...

NYR1724 06-27-2008 07:15 PM

Also - I agree with Jas. I don't mind if the Rangers trade Prucha to acquire an asset that will help this team in the long-term. Its short sided deals like swapping Prucha for aging forward X (Martin Rucinsky, whoever) that have been rumored in the past that bother me.

SingnBluesOnBroadway 06-27-2008 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 007 (Post 14597564)
What interests me here is less the question about Straka, it's this part:



Through his tough season, there was a lot of talk of the Rangers getting rid Prucha and there is still talk of him as a trading chip, but it seems that the Rangers may not have given up on him.

I for one am glad. I'm hoping that last year was an anomaly.

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/ran...a-word-ab.html

Have the Rangers not given up on him or does he have no trade value? Or, and this is probably the most likely scenario to me, is Glen Sather overvalueing him on the trade market?

silverfish 06-27-2008 07:43 PM

Given the right amount of ice time Prucha will produce, no doubt about it. He has the right instinct and isn't afraid to go to the net. He's like a garbage truck.

Like someone said above, if we lose Jags/Straks/Shanny/Avery that's 4 wing spots on the top 2 lines, Prucha will have a regular spot on the team.

Son of Steinbrenner 06-27-2008 08:53 PM

I think the biggest mistake made with Prucha was moving him from lw to rw last season....I think the rangers could trade him in the right package but i'm not sure who would want him..

MisterUnspoken 06-27-2008 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SingnBluesOnBroadway (Post 14597939)
Have the Rangers not given up on him or does he have no trade value? Or, and this is probably the most likely scenario to me, is Glen Sather overvalueing him on the trade market?

Who says he's even looking to move him?

Cherepanisimov 06-27-2008 08:55 PM

he played good when he actually played. he's coming into only his fourth season, give the kid a shot.

NYR Sting 06-27-2008 09:27 PM

Don't forget, guys, that Prucha's success was directly connected to the success of Jagr.

I like Petr Prucha a lot, he seems like a great kid and he has a lot of heart and guts, but I can't help but remember how much his numbers had to do with Jagr.

16 of his 30 rookie season goals were power play goals, the same season that Jaromir Jagr broke team scoring records and ran the power play. The next year, Jagr was a little less effective, so was Prucha. Only scored 8 PP goals that year. You get the drift, right? I'd like to think Prucha is capable of creating offense himself, but I don't think the evidence backs that belief up.

Plus, his best offensive skill, his quick shot, hasn't looked the same the last two years. I would say that even 2 years ago, he wasn't that great. I think the 22 goals make it seem as if he was a bigger part of the team than he really was.

Maybe he just needs a change of scenery, but more than likely, he just isn't as good as many of us want him to be.

Beacon 06-27-2008 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by we want cup (Post 14597882)
Thing is, Prucha can really help the Rangers win himself if Renney gives him the minutes and PP time...

I think Pru should be used as a PP specialist. He could definitely be useful there.

I would try him together with Gomez. A playmaker together with a pure scorer like Prucha may work out. It almost definitely won't work out with Drury or Dubi.

RANGERS2448 06-27-2008 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 007 (Post 14597564)
What interests me here is less the question about Straka, it's this part:



Through his tough season, there was a lot of talk of the Rangers getting rid Prucha and there is still talk of him as a trading chip, but it seems that the Rangers may not have given up on him.

I for one am glad. I'm hoping that last year was an anomaly.

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/ran...a-word-ab.html


prucha should be on 1 of the top 3 lines this yr and on the pp

squishy 06-27-2008 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Sting36e (Post 14598843)
Don't forget, guys, that Prucha's success was directly connected to the success of Jagr.

I like Petr Prucha a lot, he seems like a great kid and he has a lot of heart and guts, but I can't help but remember how much his numbers had to do with Jagr.

16 of his 30 rookie season goals were power play goals, the same season that Jaromir Jagr broke team scoring records and ran the power play. The next year, Jagr was a little less effective, so was Prucha. Only scored 8 PP goals that year. You get the drift, right?

Or, his drop in power play production could have something to do with his drop power play time...

2005-2006: 3:49 min/game
2006-2007: 2:53 min/game
2007-2008: 1:38 min/game

Radek27 06-27-2008 10:57 PM

I have a feeling both Prucha and Backman are going to have solid seasons making a lot of people on here look...........silly.

FLYLine24 06-27-2008 11:09 PM

Im just going to say it.....Prucha's rookie season was a fluke. A complete fluke. He will never sniff 30 goals again.

Jagr MADE Prucha his rookie season. Without Jagr...Prucha is nothing.

Sorry...i've given up on Petr Puck. He is too weak for the NHL, 175 pounds is not cutting it. He gets knocked off the puck way too easily, and its also a matter of time till he gets seriously injured with one of those monster hits he takes every other game.


Flame away boys..but thats my opinion. Kid has heart..but it's not enough. He will put up another 10-13 goals this season...then Sather will give him the boot.

we want cup 06-27-2008 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FLYLine88 (Post 14599646)
Im just going to say it.....Prucha's rookie season was a fluke. A complete fluke. He will never sniff 30 goals again.

Jagr MADE Prucha his rookie season. Without Jagr...Prucha is nothing.

Sorry...i've given up on Petr Puck. He is too weak for the NHL, 175 pounds is not cutting it. He gets knocked off the puck way too easily, and its also a matter of time till he gets seriously injured with one of those monster hits he takes every other game.


Flame away boys..but thats my opinion. Kid has heart..but it's not enough. He will put up another 10-13 goals this season...then Sather will give him the boot.

Brian Gionta weighs 175 but still put up a 48 goal season and 3 20 goal seasons

squishy 06-27-2008 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FLYLine88 (Post 14599646)
He is too weak for the NHL, 175 pounds is not cutting it.

Patrick Kane says hello. ;)

FLYLine24 06-27-2008 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by we want cup (Post 14599672)
Brian Gionta weighs 175 but still put up a 48 goal season and 3 20 goal seasons


Quote:

Originally Posted by squishy (Post 14599697)
Patrick Kane says hello. ;)

Both of them can say hello all they want to Pru...but unfortunately they are not Prucha.

FutureGM97 06-28-2008 12:20 AM

Shouldn't the Rangers give Prucha a legitimate chance of playing on a scoring line without jagr for an extended period of time before completely giving up on him?

MidnightRanger 06-28-2008 12:24 AM

I've never thought the Rangers had any intention of dealing Prucha. They just sat him in favor of experienced guys like Shannahan and Straka. He needs to be in the second line to produce.

Trxjw 06-28-2008 12:29 AM

To succeed, Prucha needs to be on a line where he considered to be the worst player. Meaning he needs to be getting the least amount of attention from the opposing defense, as they're more concerned with the other two players.

Prucha's value is so low right now that he'll probably be kept on to see if he regains his form next season. If not, I imagine he'll be moved for whatever they can get for him.

NYR Viper 06-28-2008 01:50 AM

now i know people might think im crazy, however why is it people bash parenteau for his defensive awareness and yet let prucha slide by....IMO, i would rather have the 6'0 190-200 lbs parenteau considering he can CREATE offense rather than the 5-11 175 lbs prucha who can only score garbage goals......

IMO parenteau is the better option as he is cheaper and a more well-rounded player, i say give him a shot over petr and before people say parenteau hasnt played in the nhl and prucha has scored 30 goals before in the nhl....i dont care....he played horribly last year and was benched most of the year, i think parenteau could do that just as well and cost less

MidnightRanger 06-28-2008 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockeyviper87 (Post 14600744)
now i know people might think im crazy, however why is it people bash parenteau for his defensive awareness and yet let prucha slide by....IMO, i would rather have the 6'0 190-200 lbs parenteau considering he can CREATE offense rather than the 5-11 175 lbs prucha who can only score garbage goals......

IMO parenteau is the better option as he is cheaper and a more well-rounded player, i say give him a shot over petr and before people say parenteau hasnt played in the nhl and prucha has scored 30 goals before in the nhl....i dont care....he played horribly last year and was benched most of the year, i think parenteau could do that just as well and cost less

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