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edmonton_ice 07-04-2008 05:44 PM

Keenan
 
It has been just over a year since Keenan came into the mix. Do you think Sutter hiring him was a huge mistake ?

I think personally he is a cancer, alot of players don't like playing for him.

Ticonderoga 07-04-2008 05:54 PM

I am hot and cold with him, I am willing to give him another shot next season.

On the bright side his work with Dion has been excellent.

Noori 07-04-2008 06:00 PM

At least this one doesn't come in with the intent to troll..

I'd like to see what Keenan can do here the next two seasons but once his contract expires. If we still don't go deep in the playoffs, then I want him gone.

StreakingRed 07-04-2008 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calgary highlander (Post 14742751)
I'd like to see what Keenan can do here the next two seasons but once his contract expires. If we still don't go deep in the playoffs, then I want him gone.


I'll second that.

So far, though, I have no problem with Keenan as the coach of this team.

Hyde 07-04-2008 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by edmonton_ice (Post 14742435)
It has been just over a year since Keenan came into the mix. Do you think Sutter hiring him was a huge mistake ?

I think personally he is a cancer, alot of players don't like playing for him.


I like Keenan he reminds me of Sutter. That being said no he isn't a player's coach but I really don't care.

flamesfan12 07-04-2008 06:55 PM

I absolutely love Keenan. I am more then happy with him being the coach of this team.

scoringmachine 07-04-2008 07:41 PM

At first I was angry that Sutter had hired Keenan as coach due his his history of singling out some players too much and making them feel unwanted on the team. After watching him this past season I felt he did a good job with the players and made them feel that they could talk to him whenever they needed to.

Now that Keenan has lots of new faces to coach we will see if Sutter made the right choice. After next season we can decide whether or not Sutter made the right choice for coach.

Beetmaster General 07-04-2008 11:56 PM

it seems like the players that dont like playing for him, i dont want on my team

BearChi 07-05-2008 01:24 AM

im happy right now

zBearcat 07-05-2008 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edmonton_ice (Post 14742435)
It has been just over a year since Keenan came into the mix. Do you think Sutter hiring him was a huge mistake ?

I think personally he is a cancer, alot of players don't like playing for him.

Do you have any support for this claim or are you merely speculating? The reason being as there are a few players who also liked playing for Keenan. However, a lot of those players who didn't like playing for him are usually of the "soft" variety. Huselius and Tanguay are obvious examples of that.

Grannys 07-05-2008 05:13 AM

This forum gets one of these post a week where someone outside the Calgary fan camp comes in asking about Keenan and then stating in the same post how much they personally hate him....

kruezer 07-05-2008 10:39 AM

I don't mind the guy, he had his guys that he didn't work well with to be sure (most notably Marcus Nilson IMO) but he is a decent coach.

GoFlames 07-05-2008 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BadNewsBearcat (Post 14748312)
Do you have any support for this claim or are you merely speculating? The reason being as there are a few players who also liked playing for Keenan. However, a lot of those players who didn't like playing for him are usually of the "soft" variety. Huselius and Tanguay are obvious examples of that.

True enough, look at the years Iginla, Phaneuf had, Keenan expects lofty results and rightfully so for that much money. If an overpaid baby can not take the heat, get out of the kitchen, real world stuff here! I like Sutters approach of a talented version of the 2004 team, hard working hjigh energy and super competitive... not entitled lazy older players. Keenan apepars to be the perfect coach for this team allegedly

Hyde 07-05-2008 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsBearcat (Post 14748312)
Do you have any support for this claim or are you merely speculating? The reason being as there are a few players who also liked playing for Keenan. However, a lot of those players who didn't like playing for him are usually of the "soft" variety. Huselius and Tanguay are obvious examples of that.

Oh, that would a fun game name players who like Keenan, lets see on the top of my head, Joe Thornton, Olli Jokinen heck even our beloved Adrian Aucoin. I'm sure that we could name some more, not that people will listen.

Noori 07-05-2008 07:39 PM

...Pronger

debil 07-06-2008 05:10 AM

Keenan is an average coach. His work meant no upgrade. Keenan's results were identical to Jimmy's. Flames just played somewhat different style, with more offensive pressure.

AndersEriksson* 07-06-2008 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by debil (Post 14760670)
Keenan is an average coach. His work meant no upgrade. Keenan's results were identical to Jimmy's. Flames just played somewhat different style, with more offensive pressure.

Agree. The end result was pretty much identical.

edmonton_ice 07-06-2008 04:53 PM

Well.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by outerone (Post 14749208)
This forum gets one of these post a week where someone outside the Calgary fan camp comes in asking about Keenan and then stating in the same post how much they personally hate him....

I am merely trying to get Flame's fans opinion, there was no intent of trolling here but with that said. I don't see a difference of when Playfair was coach and now when Keenan is coaching.

I think his style works initially but after a while, is starts to wear thin on some players. Sutter is trying to get Keenan type players which may not work in the new NHL. I like the move for Cammaleria and the Tanguay trade.

Congo 07-06-2008 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by debil (Post 14760670)
Keenan is an average coach. His work meant no upgrade. Keenan's results were identical to Jimmy's. Flames just played somewhat different style, with more offensive pressure.

It was the same results with a bad season by Kipper, and a line-up that was showing it's age for sure. Despite Tanguay, Juice, Lombardi and pretty much everyone who isn't named Dion or Jarome failing to live up to expectations, Keenan still somehow managed to land the seventh seed.

I think that's admirable, and hopefully indicates that we can expect a better season next year.

Body Checker 07-07-2008 12:21 AM

I give mixed results for his first year. Now it looks like Sutter is building a Keenan team. This year will say alot. If they miss the playoffs then fire Keenan unless there are injuries to key players.

Cactus Jack 07-07-2008 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Congo (Post 14767894)
It was the same results with a bad season by Kipper, and a line-up that was showing it's age for sure. Despite Tanguay, Juice, Lombardi and pretty much everyone who isn't named Dion or Jarome failing to live up to expectations, Keenan still somehow managed to land the seventh seed.

I think that's admirable, and hopefully indicates that we can expect a better season next year.

You're giving Keenan too much credit. I think playing your top playmaker in Tanguay on the pk and giving him mostly second line ice time with guys that combined scored 28 goals would probably lead to a down year. Ditto for Lombardi even playing with worse wingers last year than in 2006.

I find it interesting that after the last 3 years with different coaches they all had similar results albeit with different problems. Not enough offense, not enough defense and general inconsistency.

I don't like Keenan or Sutter, but I'd give them another year. Sutter is beloved by management and he thinks Keenan (who hasn't won a playoff round since when? 1994? And how many years was he unemployed in the NHL?) is an elite coach, so unfortunately neither are going anywhere. However, after a 4th straight first round loss, should it occur, you'd have to look hard at getting rid of them.

abracanada 07-07-2008 11:00 AM

In a Keenan interview, apparently Tanguay wanted out when he arrived anyway. I guess that may be why he used him that way.

puck_08 07-07-2008 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by abracanada (Post 14774129)
In a Keenan interview, apparently Tanguay wanted out when he arrived anyway. I guess that may be why he used him that way.

^^That doesn't really make sense..


I think the Jury is still out on Keenan..


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