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Inferno 07-17-2008 03:16 AM

Let's Build Next Years Team - Second Line Right Wing
 
Im sorta ripping off flylines yearly prospect post, and kinda building a twist around it. Were going to vote on the lines for next year. Im going to go position by position, and were going to have a vote for every single player, even the more obvious choices till we fill out an entire roster.

The assumptions here are the team carrying 2 goalies, 1 backup defenseman, and 2 backup forwards. The first few obvious prospects will also be listed in every vote, along with an "other" option. This is if you feel another player not listed is a better choice than any of the other players.

The Roster As It Stands Now:

Markus Naslund (52.83%) - Scotty Gomez (91.67%) - Nikolai Zherdev (78.02%)
Nigel Dawes (72.50%)
- Chris Drury (54.48%) - Second Line Right Wing
Third Line Left Wing - Third Line Center - Third Line Right Wing
Fourth Line Left Wing - Fourth Line Center - Fourth Line Right Wing
First Backup Forward
Second Backup Forward


First Pairing Left Defenseman - First Pairing Right Defenseman
Second Pairing Left Defenseman - Second Pairing Right Defenseman
Third Pairing Left Defenseman - Third Pairing Right Defenseman
Backup Defenseman

Starting Goalie
Backup Goalie

Inferno 07-17-2008 03:20 AM

I just despise the idea of Petr Prucha and Nigel Dawes being on the same line, especially one centered by a midget in Drury. I hate it so much id rather have a rookie in Korpedo be on the right side than any of the other choices. I simply can not stand the idea of those 2 on the same line at the same time, it really frightens me.

rangerfan_79 07-17-2008 04:03 AM

like it or not dubinsky belongs on the 2nd line.

voted dubi obviously.

Ih8theislanders 07-17-2008 08:33 AM

Can Korpedo play RW? Or only LW?

DubiDubiDoo 07-17-2008 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inferno272 (Post 14902384)
I just despise the idea of Petr Prucha and Nigel Dawes being on the same line, especially one centered by a midget in Drury. I hate it so much id rather have a rookie in Korpedo be on the right side than any of the other choices. I simply can not stand the idea of those 2 on the same line at the same time, it really frightens me.

Agree with you 100%, but thats why we need to break up Naslund and Zherdev...DEPTH IN SCORING!!!!
Posted this next part a day or 2 ago, but it still stands...

Gomez-Naslund-Zherdev on the same line is pointless

If Gomez and Zherdev do end up on a line together, I see the other winger being an odd man out of sorts unless he's willing to dig for scraps around the net...
enter petr prucha...at least he's willing to take the beating going to the net, and we all know he's capable of picking up goals around the net..maybe its not ideal, but naslund would be wasted on this line.
In order to maximize our skill we should go with a good pair plus on each line..

gomez and zherdev plus prucha
Drury and naslund plus korpi/cally
dubinsky an dawes plus fritsche
betts and voros plus sjo/orr/riss depending on the situation one could be gone

***just as a note, I think these lines are also defensively sound.
Any lack of defense on the first line can be made up for by the lines ability to control the puck between gomez and zherdev. I admit prucha is not a strong defender, but he does hustle on the backcheck, this line would be similar to a nylander/straka/jagr combo
dru and cally/korpi are all defensively sound
dubi and fritsche are sound defensively as well

Forechecker 07-17-2008 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d a n n y (Post 14903077)
Can Korpedo play RW? Or only LW?

Korp was on the right wing when he scored against the Pens in game 5, I believe.

Love Cally, but Korp is the man here.

nyr2k2 07-17-2008 08:51 AM

Going with Korpedo. I don't know that Cally has the offense for the second line (he may, and Korpedo may not, I'm not sure), and I don't like Prucha and Dawes on the same line. I'll go with Korpikoski's solid puck play, responsible defense and offensive potential.

free0717 07-17-2008 08:55 AM

Sjostrom should be on that list

nyrcallahan24 07-17-2008 09:19 AM

I would like to see Dubi on the first line (like last year) and prucha, naslund, and cali on the same line.

NY Ranger86 07-17-2008 09:31 AM

dubinsky on wing? not center? idk what to do with all these centers

Trxjw 07-17-2008 09:44 AM

Voted other; we don't have a legit option here.

Prucha is a LW. He's a prototypical Euro-style winger that plays the off wing; i.e. he shoots righty but plays on the left side.

DontStepanMe 07-17-2008 10:00 AM

I voted Other: It should be naslund.

Drury-Dubinsky-naslund should be the second line.

SupersonicMonkey* 07-17-2008 10:05 AM

Mind boggling how Callahan is winning with the current make up of the roster, Prucha or Korpikoski should be the 2nd line RW in this instance.

nyr2k2 07-17-2008 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rags225 (Post 14903687)
I voted Other: It should be naslund.

Drury-Dubinsky-naslund should be the second line.

Are we doing it like that? I've been voting based off of the assumption that the previous poll choices were locked in. For instance, I might agree with you that Drury-Dubinsky-Naslund could be a line, but I won't vote other in this poll thinking Naslund, because we've already locked him in on the top line.

I'm not chastising your selection, I'm just asking for clarification on how we do this.

EDIT: Also, who the hell is "Feed Me A Stray Cat" and why did they vote for Orr?

DontStepanMe 07-17-2008 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nyr2k2 (Post 14903750)
Are we doing it like that? I've been voting based off of the assumption that the previous poll choices were locked in. For instance, I might agree with you that Drury-Dubinsky-Naslund could be a line, but I won't vote other in this poll thinking Naslund, because we've already locked him in on the top line.

I'm not chastising your selection, I'm just asking for clarification on how we do this.

I'm not exactly positive myself. I didn't like any of the choices for second line wing, so I chose other.

Lion Hound 07-17-2008 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rangerfan_79 (Post 14902528)
like it or not dubinsky belongs on the 2nd line.

voted dubi obviously.

Totally agree. I just voted for him as 2nd line RW. Granted he is a natural center, but I personally like the idea of putting your best foot forward on your top 6, and using your 3rd line as a shutdown line, and 4th line strictly as a checking line. Personally I think the Rangers have the depth to do this with the 3rd and 4th lines, which to me means Dubi should get 2nd line duties on the right wing. He adds a physical element to the top 6 w/out losing speed, and or talent in the equation. Plus, he is still so young, I think he is the perfect candidate to move to the wing. Orignally I was thinking the left sie, but with two natural LW's in Naslund and Dawes, and lack of talent on the right side, Dubinsky to me seems like the perfect fit there.

Fletch 07-17-2008 10:46 AM

Pukka...
 
given the choice between Korps and Cally, wouldn't you think Cally would be a better option for the second line and Korps for the third line? Sure Cally's a third liner, but isn't Korps about the same, but younger, less experienced, and has shown less goal scoring prowess than Cally?

Ih8theislanders 07-17-2008 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forechecker (Post 14903125)
Korp was on the right wing when he scored against the Pens in game 5, I believe.

Love Cally, but Korp is the man here.

Thanks, my vote goes to Korpedo

Fletch 07-17-2008 10:50 AM

Dubi as a winger? Come on guys? Let's not try to force square pegs in round holes. Why screw with a kid's development just because currently the opportunity isn't there for him to be a top six forward? He still has an opportunity to play in 15-16 minutes per game - that's not so bad either.

The third line would be a nice place to have a shutdown line - who are the shutdown people? Are we suggesting playing Betts 15-16 minutes per night since he's the most qualified to be a shutdown center? I'm not sure I'm ready for Betts to play that much.

I understand the concepts and don't totally agree with them, but I'm not sure all the pieces are here for the team to do what we all think they should do, and certainly am against a guy like Dubi playing on a wing. There are many ways to cut a third line that will continue to advance Dubi.

NYR Viper 07-17-2008 10:57 AM

voted fritsche......adds size, speed, and a hard forechecker.......dont understand it....the callahan-drury-dawes line was pretty successful and fritsche is a bigger, stronger, younger, better version of callahan.....seems like he would play on drury's wing

z1co80 07-17-2008 11:07 AM

i have always said i wanted the top two lines to look like this.

Dawes-Gomez-Naslund
Drury-Dubinsky-Zherdev

LINE 1 - Last season Dawes played better with Gomez and i think with Naslund there also it gives Gomez 2 snipers to play with, its also a speedy line that isn't top heavy and should spread scoring.

LINE 2- I keep reading peoples views on moving Dubinsky to the wing and i have to say i am coming around to the idea, my thoughts were to move Drury to the wing although it was 6 yrs ago he still has more experience playing wing than Dubinsky but its possible moving Dubi is the better option. If it was Drury that was moved it wouldn't stop him from taking the big faceoffs and in Dubi we have someone who is also very capable, i may be wrong but didn't Dubi have a better faceoff percentage than Drury in the playoffs or was it just against the Devils. If i am wrong i am sure someone will correct me :).

When it comes to Zherdev i'd rather him with Drury as both him and Gomez both like to carry the puck and think they would be too similar. In my opinion a player like Zherdev is just what Drury needs.

Fritsche-Anisimov-Callahan

LINE 3 - This is assuming Anisimov makes it out of camp, to me this is a gritty high energy line that will pitch in big goals now and again.

Sjostrom-Betts-Voros/Orr

LINE 4 - Sjo provides some scoring threat with Betts just being his usual solid self and either Voros/Orr for toughness

Rissmiller - I dont see the need for signing him to be honest, i dont think he is an improvement in anyway and his salary is high.

Prucha - I would trade, we have a better player in Dawes who's cap hit isn't even half of what Prucha's is. At $1.6m Prucha to me is expendable.

NYR Viper 07-17-2008 11:15 AM

^^^^
naslund and dawes are both LW's.....and naslund played a lot better playing on his natural side in vancouver than he did on his off-wing

nyr2k2 07-17-2008 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch (Post 14904170)
given the choice between Korps and Cally, wouldn't you think Cally would be a better option for the second line and Korps for the third line? Sure Cally's a third liner, but isn't Korps about the same, but younger, less experienced, and has shown less goal scoring prowess than Cally?

Yeah, I hear ya Fletch. I voted Korpikoski because I want to see what he's got... I have a gut feeling that he'll succeed, though it's really not based on anything other than that :). Callahan is definitely more established though.

FLYLine24 07-17-2008 11:18 AM

Prucha and Korpi are left wingers. Plus Korpi shouldnt be on the 2nd line right away.

Callahan is a right winger, cally gets the spot (again though Dubi should be center, Dru on the right side, and Dawes on the left). So even though I vote Cally on the 2nd line, thats not who I want there.


Drury and Cally played a lot with each other last year toward the end though and started to look good together.

NYR Viper 07-17-2008 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FLYLine88 (Post 14904535)
Prucha and Korpi are left wingers. Plus Korpi shouldnt be on the 2nd line right away.

Callahan is a right winger, cally gets the spot (again though Dubi should be center, Dru on the right side, and Dawes on the left). So even though I vote Cally on the 2nd line, thats not who I want there.

why not fritsche?.......he is better and younger than cally


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