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Mr. Hab 07-27-2008 07:21 PM

OT - Who are the best NHLers? (born in Quebec). YOUR top 10-20 list. And...
 
...who are the top 5 you would take on our HABS? (defensemen and/or forwards, NO goalies in this thread!).


1. Lecavalier
2.
3.
4.
5.
...
20.


Where would you place Steve Bernier, Patrice Bergeron, Alex Tanguay...?


PLEASE...let's NOT turn this into a RIBEIRO love/hate thread (been done a million times!), this thread was made just to know your favourite Quebecois players (born in Quebec)...as of RIGHT NOW.

primeking 07-27-2008 07:30 PM

1. Lecavalier
2. St-Louis ( fits our style so well )
3. Gagné ( healthy )
4. Bergeron ( pat )
5. Tanguay
6. Boucher
7. Bernier
8. Vermette
9. P-M Bouchard
10 . Dupuis

If Tanguay doesnt count since he IS a Hab, id add Perron or Giroux to that list.

PS : No Ribeiro here ; attitude has always been the problem and WILL continue to be a problem if comes back to mtl.

Beakermania* 07-27-2008 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by primeking (Post 15004496)
1. Lecavalier
2. St-Louis ( fits our style so well )
3. Gagné ( healthy )
4. Bergeron ( pat )
5. Tanguay
6. Boucher
7. Bernier
8. Vermette
9. P-M Bouchard
10 . Dupuis

If Tanguay doesnt count since he IS a Hab, id add Perron or Giroux to that list.

PS : No Ribeiro here ; attitude has always been the problem and WILL continue to be a problem if comes back to mtl.

Bernier is way too high, I'd put PM Bouchard ahead of him and move him down...
Dupuis is also too high....

You are also missing a bunch of guys... Beauchemin, Briere, Pominville, Dumont, Robidas, these guys are all above Dupuis and Bernier IMO...

ChemiseBleuHonnete 07-27-2008 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by primeking (Post 15004496)
1. Lecavalier
2. St-Louis ( fits our style so well )
3. Gagné ( healthy )
4. Bergeron ( pat )
5. Tanguay
6. Boucher
7. Bernier
8. Vermette
9. P-M Bouchard
10 . Dupuis

If Tanguay doesnt count since he IS a Hab, id add Perron or Giroux to that list.

PS : No Ribeiro here ; attitude has always been the problem and WILL continue to be a problem if comes back to mtl.

sorry, but this is bad...

GNick42 07-27-2008 08:19 PM

make a all-quebec team...be Brodeur and Luongo in net for sure

Mr. Hab 07-27-2008 08:21 PM

I was always a fan of Robidas...

Glad his value has gone higher and higher over the years...wish it was with us, but what can you do?! can't win 'em all!

WeThreeKings 07-27-2008 08:23 PM

Amend title.. this is OT.

emb24* 07-27-2008 08:29 PM

where's briere? Lombardi? vlasic?
paul stasny's born in quebec
jason pominville
m.a fleury

Systemfel 07-27-2008 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GNick42 (Post 15004853)
make a all-quebec team...be Brodeur and Luongo in net for sure

Tanguay - Lecavalier - St-Louis
Gagné - Brière - Pominville
Dumont - Ribeiro - Bergeron
Vermette - Lombardi - Bouchard

Vlasic - Boucher
Beauchemin - Robidas
Bouillon - Letang

24Cups 07-27-2008 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Systemfel (Post 15004958)
Tanguay - Lecavalier - St-Louis
Gagné - Brière - Pominville
Dumont - Ribeiro - Bergeron
Vermette - Lombardi - Bouchard

Vlasic - Boucher
Beauchemin - Robidas
Bouillon - Letang

Not quite the line-up a "Team Quebec" could have fielded in the early 90's with Bourque anchoring a defense and Lemieux, Lafontaine, and Pierre Turgeon down the middle.

Beakermania* 07-27-2008 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 24Cups (Post 15004997)
Not quite the line-up a "Team Quebec" could have fielded in the early 90's with Bourque anchoring a defense and Lemieux, Lafontaine, and Pierre Turgeon down the middle.

Lafontaine is american.....

VirginiaMtlExpat 07-27-2008 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 24Cups (Post 15004997)
Not quite the line-up a "Team Quebec" could have fielded in the early 90's with Bourque anchoring a defense and Lemieux, Lafontaine, and Pierre Turgeon down the middle.

Pat Lafontaine played in the Q, but is American. Which other Lafontaine?

24Cups 07-27-2008 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beakermania (Post 15005037)
Lafontaine is american.....

Where is my mind going these days? :cry: Of course he is American. Insert Damphouse instead. ;) I still contend man for man the early 90's Team Quebec would beat the contemporary version.

znk 07-27-2008 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by franchise player (Post 15004823)
sorry, but this is bad...

what is your list?

znk 07-27-2008 09:10 PM

here is my list

Tanguay
Latendresse
Lapierre
Bouillon
Bégin
Laraque
Carle
Dandenault
Denis
Dandenault

vesperal 07-27-2008 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by znk (Post 15005273)
here is my list

Tanguay
Latendresse
Lapierre
Bouillon
Bégin
Laraque
Carle
Dandenault
Denis
Dandenault

He's so good that when he's not taking a shift as a forward, you're playing him back there on defense.

Slick Nick 07-28-2008 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by znk (Post 15005273)
here is my list

Tanguay
Latendresse
Lapierre
Bouillon
Bégin
Laraque
Carle
Dandenault
Denis
Dandenault

Dandy has a twin?????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????

Imagine a Dandenault-Dandenault paring.. damn, that would suck ... but.. how entertaining. :scared:

kevanos 07-28-2008 01:10 AM

Here is a list of all the Quebec born players currently in the NHL sorted by points.

Forwards : GP/G/A/Pts

Martin Gelinas 1273 309 351 660

Vincent Lecavalier 710 273 329 602

Alex Tanguay 609 177 362 539

Yanic Perreault 859 247 269 516

Martin St. Louis 608 208 297 505

Daniel Briere 562 193 255 448

Simon Gagne 527 208 202 410

J.P. Dumont 596 171 223 394

Martin Lapointe 991 181 200 381

Ian Laperriere 927 111 186 297

Mike Ribeiro 433 95 200 295

Eric Belanger 478 93 129 222

Pierre-Marc Bouchard 354 61 160 221

Patrice Bergeron 239 72 117 189

Jason Pominville 222 79 99 178

Pascal Dupuis 435 83 91 174

Paul Stastny 148 52 97 149

Georges Laraque 634 52 96 148

Antoine Vermette 297 71 68 139

Matthew Lombardi 297 56 81 137

Michel Ouellet 187 52 64 116

Steve Bernier 177 45 45 90

Eric Perrin 167 25 56 81

Steve Begin 347 40 34 74

Stephane Veilleux 280 30 37 67

Maxime Talbot 186 30 28 58

Guillaume Latendresse 153 32 24 56

Alexandre Burrows 206 22 30 52

Ben Guite 119 14 19 33

Maxim Lapierre 100 13 17 30

David Perron 62 13 14 27

Joel Perrault 80 9 13 22

Torrey Mitchell 82 10 10 20






Defence : GP/G/A/Pts

Patrice Brisebois 947 93 309 402

Philippe Boucher 707 91 200 291

Mathieu Dandenault 827 64 127 191

Marc-Andre Bergeron 267 48 80 128

Stephane Robidas 489 27 82 109

Francois Beauchemin 226 17 68 85

Marc-Edouard Vlasic 163 5 35 40

Bruno Gervais 138 3 23 26

Alexandre Picard 92 6 22 28

Kris Letang 70 8 11 19

Alain Nasreddine 74 1 4 5

Mathieu Roy 30 2 1 3






Goalies: GP/GAA/SV%

Roberto Luongo 490 2.60 .919

Jean-Sebastien Giguere 411 2.43 .915

Corey Crawford 7 2.52 .915

Martin Brodeur 968 2.20 .913

Martin Biron 378 2.56 .911

Pascal Leclaire 113 2.71 .911

Jose Theodore 444 2.65 .909

Mathieu Garon 185 2.81 .906

Patrick Lalime 397 2.53 .905

Marc-Andre Fleury 173 2.95 .905

Jocelyn Thibault 586 2.75 .904

Marc Denis 348 3.02 .902

Dan Cloutier 351 2.77 .899

Dany Sabourin 38 2.89 .898

Jonathan Bernier 4 4.03 .864



note: a few names were ommitted.

Sthabs 07-28-2008 01:20 AM

Compared to those guys Tanguay has some very interesting stats, i mean he has a higher ppg than Lecavalier !!

No I m not comparing them

HamrlikTheStud* 07-28-2008 01:24 AM

1. Lecavalier
2. Brière
3. St-Louis
4. Gagné
5. Tanguay
6. Ribeiro
7. Bergeron
8. Pominville
9. Bouchard
10. Dumont
11. Vermette
12. Bernier
13. Latendresse
14. Perron
15. Dupuis
16. Ouellette
17. Perrin
18. Belanger
19. Talbot
20. Perreault

This is it for the forwards, IMO.

And NO, Stasny is not a "Québecois".

Pr3Va1L 07-28-2008 01:27 AM

Why is it Paul Stastny that has the best PPG average?

HamrlikTheStud* 07-28-2008 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 24Cups (Post 15004997)
Not quite the line-up a "Team Quebec" could have fielded in the early 90's with Bourque anchoring a defense and Lemieux, Lafontaine, and Pierre Turgeon down the middle.

We would have our shot to the gold, IMO. We would be better than Team Canada.

Mr. Hab 07-28-2008 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevanos (Post 15006634)
Here is a list of all the Quebec born players currently in the NHL sorted by points.

Forwards : GP/G/A/Pts
Martin Gelinas 1273 309 351 660
Vincent Lecavalier 710 273 329 602
Alex Tanguay 609 177 362 539
Yanic Perreault 859 247 269 516
Martin St. Louis 608 208 297 505
Daniel Briere 562 193 255 448
Simon Gagne 527 208 202 410
J.P. Dumont 596 171 223 394
Martin Lapointe 991 181 200 381
Ian Laperriere 927 111 186 297
Mike Ribeiro 433 95 200 295
Eric Belanger 478 93 129 222
Pierre-Marc Bouchard 354 61 160 221
Patrice Bergeron 239 72 117 189
Jason Pominville 222 79 99 178
Pascal Dupuis 435 83 91 174
Paul Stastny 148 52 97 149
Georges Laraque 634 52 96 148
Antoine Vermette 297 71 68 139
Matthew Lombardi 297 56 81 137
Michel Ouellet 187 52 64 116
Steve Bernier 177 45 45 90
Eric Perrin 167 25 56 81
Steve Begin 347 40 34 74
Stephane Veilleux 280 30 37 67
Maxime Talbot 186 30 28 58
Guillaume Latendresse 153 32 24 56
Alexandre Burrows 206 22 30 52
Ben Guite 119 14 19 33
Maxim Lapierre 100 13 17 30
David Perron 62 13 14 27
Joel Perrault 80 9 13 22
Torrey Mitchell 82 10 10 20
------------------------------------------------
Defence : GP/G/A/Pts

Patrice Brisebois 947 93 309 402

Philippe Boucher 707 91 200 291

Mathieu Dandenault 827 64 127 191

Marc-Andre Bergeron 267 48 80 128

Stephane Robidas 489 27 82 109

Francois Beauchemin 226 17 68 85

Marc-Edouard Vlasic 163 5 35 40

Bruno Gervais 138 3 23 26

Alexandre Picard 92 6 22 28

Kris Letang 70 8 11 19

Alain Nasreddine 74 1 4 5

Mathieu Roy 30 2 1 3


Thanks for all your players' list/info/time...very appreciated :handclap:

Quite the list...



Quote:

Originally Posted by HamrlikTheStud (Post 15006695)
1. Lecavalier
2. Brière
3. St-Louis
4. Gagné
5. Tanguay
6. Ribeiro
7. Bergeron
8. Pominville
9. Bouchard
10. Dumont
11. Vermette
12. Bernier
13. Latendresse
14. Perron
15. Dupuis
16. Ouellette
17. Perrin
18. Belanger
19. Talbot
20. Perreault

This is it for the forwards, IMO.

And NO, Stasny is not a "Québecois".

Stastny was born in Quebec City...makes him as Quebecois as Ribeiro, no? One is of Slovak origin born in Quebec (during PEter's days with the Nordiques, of course), and Ribeiro is of Portuguese origin (born in Quebec).


I should have specified...anyone born in Quebec can be on your/this list...;)
Not sure if Stastny is considered "Quebecois", maybe Ribeiro is more "Quebecois", who knows? We'd/you'd have to ask Ribs and Paul Stastny!! ;) :p:

Mr. Hab 07-28-2008 02:35 AM

These are the players (in order) I'd take RIGHT NOW for our HABS:

1. Lecavalier
2. Stastny (born in Quebec)
3. Tanguay (I'm surprised I have him this high! I'm waiting to see how Bergeron and Gagne play after their injuries)
4. St-Louis
5. Simon Gagne (let's see how he does after his injuries)
6. Patrice Bergeron (I'm a huuuuuge fan...he's a class act and has lots of skill, fun to watch...let's hope he makes a comeback but not when he plays our HABS!)
7. Briere (I know he should be higher, but...I'm just not so big on him)
8. Jason Pominville (really good player, would look great in the CH jersey)
9. Beauchemin or Robidas (I like both of them a lot for their grit/heart)
10. P-M Bouchard
11. Vermette (imo, he's VERY underrated & VERY overrated!)
12. M-E Vlasic
13. Georges Laraque (sooo glad he's a HAB...our players need the #1 NHL policeman-player, & we are no longer a "small" team
14. J-P Dumont (loved him as a Sabre)
15. Steve Bernier
16. Laperriere/Gelinas (actually...I would have loved to see them wear the CH a few years ago...right now they might be a little lower on this list)

kevanos 07-28-2008 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HamrlikTheStud (Post 15006720)
We would have our shot to the gold, IMO. We would be better than Team Canada.

I don't even think we would beat Team Ontario if we put teams together today... I have a rough roster list on my HD at home I might post later.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Hab (Post 15006837)
Thanks for all your players' list/info/time...very appreciated :handclap:

Quite the list...

you are welcome, I had some serious time to kill at work...



Quote:


Stastny was born in Quebec City...makes him as Quebecois as Ribeiro, no? One is of Slovak origin born in Quebec (during PEter's days with the Nordiques, of course), and Ribeiro is of Portuguese origin (born in Quebec).


I should have specified...anyone born in Quebec can be on your/this list...;)
Not sure if Stastny is considered "Quebecois", maybe Ribeiro is more "Quebecois", who knows? We'd/you'd have to ask Ribs and Paul Stastny!! ;) :p:
a case could be made that players born in Ontario but raised in Quebec are more Quebecer than soem of these people, but its more simple to keep it based on place of birth. Which would mean that Heatly is German i believe.


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