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johano90 08-02-2008 12:38 PM

Ballard showing off his skills
 
It's the summer. There isn't much going on right now in the hockey world, but I figured this video of Ballard is pretty amusing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBQArUjP89w&NR=1

I realize that it's Rick Nash undressing him, but if he will be our shutdown defenseman in 09-10, I have to say I am not impressed.

I know he's got other assets which he brings to the rink, but he can't let those things happen with 20 seconds left of a tie game.

Montsy14 08-02-2008 12:40 PM

Ballard did all he could during that play and if it wasn't for a lucky bounce, Nash would have never finished that play...

And if anyone should be at fault, its derrek morris, he screws up at the blue-line twice to start the rush the other way

Anyway, here's many plays in which Ballard shows off his skills rather than one where he was defending against the goal of the year...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gdTnrd9kjs

StrangeVision 08-02-2008 12:41 PM

This one, single play represents his entire game. Because it's happened once, means it has happened many, many times. I'm sure Pronger, Niedermayer, Lidstrom, Phaneuf, Markoz, Kaberle, etc. have had this happen to them. Now, I'm not comparing Ballard to the aforementioned players, just trying to say that this is really looking at the glass as half empty.

Danny Tanner* 08-02-2008 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johano90 (Post 15059630)
It's the summer. There isn't much going on right now in the hockey world, but I figured this video of Ballard is pretty amusing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBQArUjP89w&NR=1

I realize that it's Rick Nash undressing him, but if he will be our shutdown defenseman in 09-10, I have to say I am not impressed.

I know he's got other assets which he brings to the rink, but he can't let those things happen with 20 seconds left of a tie game.

because one play is such an accurate indicator of a players true worth.....:shakehead

i think i remember sidney crosby undressing bouwmeester at home last year. that wasn't very impressive. he must stink, too.:sarcasm:

Mogo 08-02-2008 01:25 PM

bah... swedes...

wpgyotes 08-02-2008 01:52 PM

Ballard wears his heart on his sleeve each and every shift, and has one of the best hip checks out there. He was asked to pair up with Morris and forced to take on a primarily shutdown role against the opposing team's top line, but he's better suited to a second pairing with more offensive freedom. He could realistically put up 40 points (if the past two seasons haven't sucked his offensive skills dry) and be defensively responsible, but I think he's overmatched against the Iginlas and Thorntons out there.

Essentially a second-pairing defender who leads on and off the ice.

Markstrom Rules 08-02-2008 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johano90 (Post 15059630)
It's the summer. There isn't much going on right now in the hockey world, but I figured this video of Ballard is pretty amusing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBQArUjP89w&NR=1

I realize that it's Rick Nash undressing him, but if he will be our shutdown defenseman in 09-10, I have to say I am not impressed.

I know he's got other assets which he brings to the rink, but he can't let those things happen with 20 seconds left of a tie game.

Yeah, because one play determines a player's entire career. :shakehead I could post a youtube video of that Ballard blueline hip check from last season that drew so much praise and say Ballard is a monster on defense. Come on, that was the goal of the year scored by one of the best goal scorers in the game. And that's irrefutable evidence that Ballard is not a good defensive defenseman? That's pretty lame.

Crossbar 08-02-2008 02:39 PM

Amazing moves by Nash, but also a very lucky play IMO. I'm surprised the puck was able to squeak by in between Ballard and Tellqvist's poke-checks and stay with him. Obviously Ballard and Morris were trying to avoid taking a penalty in the dying seconds, otherwise this play would have looked very different (Morris pulling a "Murphy" at the offensive blueline, Ballard taking the body on Nash).

Heimy 08-02-2008 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mogo (Post 15059848)
bah... swedes...

lol, easily your funniest post ever Mogo. :laugh::laugh::laugh:

Danny Tanner* 08-02-2008 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wpgyotes (Post 15059983)
Ballard wears his heart on his sleeve each and every shift, and has one of the best hip checks out there. He was asked to pair up with Morris and forced to take on a primarily shutdown role against the opposing team's top line, but he's better suited to a second pairing with more offensive freedom. He could realistically put up 40 points (if the past two seasons haven't sucked his offensive skills dry) and be defensively responsible, but I think he's overmatched against the Iginlas and Thorntons out there.

Essentially a second-pairing defender who leads on and off the ice.

right now if things stay at status quo, ballard is a second pairing defensman.

if ballard is scoring 40+ points and playing defensively responsible, chances are he'll be more than just a second pairing defensman.

in his early years he was a bit of a roamer. last year he was a defensive defensman. the key now is to put it all together and become a "complete" defensman. if he can do that i think he'll be a top-pairing guy. i'm pretty confident he will with due time. i like ballard.

Armond White 08-02-2008 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johano90 (Post 15059630)
It's the summer. There isn't much going on right now in the hockey world, but I figured this video of Ballard is pretty amusing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBQArUjP89w&NR=1

I realize that it's Rick Nash undressing him, but if he will be our shutdown defenseman in 09-10, I have to say I am not impressed.

I know he's got other assets which he brings to the rink, but he can't let those things happen with 20 seconds left of a tie game.

And Brad May once undressed Ray Bourque in OT.

Madhatter73 08-02-2008 03:14 PM

We all know about this one rare occurrence already. Getting beat once by an elite forward shouldn't be representative of any defenseman's "skills". This thread is flamebait. Can we just lock it?

Heimy 08-02-2008 03:16 PM

ok I'll lock it, but only cause it's all request saturday :)


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