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regehr 02-22-2004 01:12 PM

Capitals Trade Proposals
 
I throw this out there - this is what I think the Caps will be looking at if they trade their remaining big-name players:

<b>OLAF KOLZIG</b>
THE SKINNY:
The market for starting goalies is thin, but there are a couple teams with question marks. Kolzig has two years left on this contract @ $6.25mil/yr and is 33 yrs old. He has played behind a brutal defense all year and was horrible the first half; however since Dec 31, he has been great, with a .932 save %. The Caps will be looking for a solid defense prospect plus a high draft pick.

TOP 3 POTENTIAL INTERESTED TEAMS:
<i>Colorado</i> - Aebisher has been solid but hasn't stole many games, so it is a real question whether Lacroix is interested in making a move at all. Potential bait: D J-M Liles, D John Boychuk, D Keith Ballard, D Tomas Slovak, RW Marek Svatos, C Cody McCormick, draft picks.

<i>St. Louis</i> - Osgood has been shaky at best; the Blues are in a real fight to get into the playoffs and may feel pressure to upgrade in goal. Potential bait: D Christian Backman, D Shawn Belle, LW Peter Sejna, draft picks.

<i>NY Rangers</i> - with their playoff hopes fading fast, there is no urgency for Sather to upgrade the goaltending, but he is clearly not happy with the Dunham/Markkanen combo. Potential bait: C Jamie Lundmark, D Fedor Tyukin, D Ivan Baranka, draft picks.

CHANCE OF BEING TRADED:
50%

BEST BET:
Kolzig to Colorado for John Boychuk and a 2nd round pick.

<b>ROBERT LANG</b>
THE SKINNY:
Capitals are very pleased with his efforts this year; he continues to produce even without Jagr and Bondra. Now leads the lead in points with 71 in 61 games; 6th in goals with 28. Has 3 yrs left on his contract @ $5mil/yr and is 33 yrs old. Caps would be looking for a young NHLer or prospect plus a draft pick.

TOP 3 POTENTIAL INTERESTED TEAMS:
<i>Detroit</i> - have been looking for a big offensive center to replace Fedorov all year. Zhamnov wasn't exactly the right fit, but they did bid and lost out on him. Potential bait: D Jiri Fischer, C Jiri Hudler, D Niklas Kronwall, LW Tomas Fleishmann, draft picks.

<i>New Jersey</i> - despite the outburst again the Rangers, the Devils have trouble scoring goals and desperately need some offense. Potential bait: D David Hale, D Paul Martin, RW Aleksander Suglobov, draft picks.

<i>Los Angeles</i> - could use some offense to replace injured Allison, Deadmarsh, Palffy, Straka. Potential bait: C Mike Cammalleri, RW Dustin Brown, C Jared Aulin, LW Jeff Tambellini, draft picks.

CHANCE OF BEING TRADED:
25%

BEST BET:
Lang and a 5th round pick to Detroit for Jiri Hudler and Niklas Kronwall.

<b>SERGEI GONCHAR</b>
THE SKINNY
One of only two NHL-calibre defenseman on the Caps, GM George McPhee will listen to all offers on Gonchar, but is in no rush to trade him. Easily the Capitals biggest trading chip. Offensively gifted, mobile and a great PP specialist, his defensive abilities, while much improved in the last two years, are average. Top scoring defenseman in the league with 48pts in 54 games. Contract ($3.65mil) expires after this season, will be a RFA; he is 29 yrs old. Caps will need a package of young NHLer, a prospect and possibly an exchange of picks to part with him.

TOP 3 POTENTIAL INTERESTED TEAMS:
<i>New Jersey</i> - Devils need offense and would be better off getting a scoring forward given they already have Rafalski and Niedermayer on D, but they have shown strong interest in Gonchar. Potential bait: C Zach Parise, D Paul Martin, D David Hale, RW Aleksander Suglobov, draft picks.

<i>Toronto</i> - need more skill and depth on the blueline after Kaberle, McCabe and Klee. Have shown considerable interest in Gonchar. Gonchar trains in TO in the off season and would like to be reunited with former Caps partner Klee. Potential bait: C Carlo Colaiacovo, C Nik Antropov, C Matt Stajan, D Karel Pilar, D Pierre Hedin, RW Alexei Ponikarovsky, C Alexander Steen, C Kyle Wellwood, D Brendan Bell, draft picks.

<i>Colorado</i> - given the changes Lacroix has recently made to the blueline, it seems unlikely he would acquire Gonchar but there has been talk. Potential bait: D J-M Liles, D John Boychuk, D Keith Ballard, D Tomas Slovak, RW Marek Svatos, C Cody McCormick, draft picks.

CHANCE OF BEING TRADED:
50%

BEST BET:
Gonchar and 3rd round pick to Toronto for Carlo Colaiacovo, Nik Antropov and Karel Pilar.

<b>BRENDAN WITT</b>
THE SKINNY:
Along with Gonchar, the only NHL-calibre defenseman. Caps are reluctant to trade him, but he may not be satisfied being a part of the Caps rebuilding process. He's 29 yrs old and makes $1.75mil; he is due to become a RFA this summer. Caps would need a top defensive prospect plus a pick to part with him.

TOP 3 POTENTIAL INTERESTED TEAMS:
<i>Toronto</i> - need to upgrade the depth and add toughness along the blueline. Potential bait: D Karel Pilar, D Pierre Hedin, RW Alexei Ponikarovsky, draft picks.

<i>St. Louis</i> - need to get more depth after losing MacInnis and Backman for the season. Potential bait: D Christian Backman, D Shawn Belle, draft picks.

<i>New Jersey</i> - could use some depth on the blueline if Scott Stevens is not healthy. Potential bait: D Paul Martin, D David Hale, draft picks.

CHANCE OF BEING TRADED:
10%

BEST BET:
Witt to St. Louis for Shawn Belle and a 3rd round pick.

<b>MICHAEL NYLANDER</b>
THE SKINNY:
Out all season with a broken leg, set to return this week; prior to preseason injury, held the NHL streak for consecutive games played. Playmaking centerman, had 60pts in 80 games last season. He is 30 yrs old and is set to become an UFA at season end ($2.675mil this year). Caps looking for a draft pick or mid-level prospect.

TOP 3 POTENTIAL INTERESTED TEAMS:
<i>New Jersey</i> - could use an offensive center; would be a cheaper alternative to Lang or other top centers. Potential bait: draft picks.

<i>Los Angeles</i> - like NJ, he would be cheaper alternative to other top scoring forwards. Potential bait: draft picks.

<i>Dallas</i> - have also had trouble scoring goals; Nylander would add depth up the middle. Potential bait: draft picks.

CHANCE OF BEING TRADED:
50%

BEST BET:
Nylander traded to LA for 3rd-4th round pick.

dats-13 02-22-2004 01:14 PM

Lang and a 5th round pick to Detroit for Jiri Hudler and Niklas Kronwall.

:shakehead

leafaholix* 02-22-2004 01:16 PM

Very nice regehr.

Thumbs up.

Ajacied 02-22-2004 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by regehr
<b>MICHAEL NYLANDER</b>
<i>Dallas</i> - have also had trouble scoring goals; Nylander would add depth up the middle. Potential bait: draft picks.

Sorry to burst your bubble but of all players mentioned, Nyland would be the last one the Stars are looking for.

"Nylander would add depth up the middle"

Mike Modano
Pierre Turgeon
Jason Arnott
Stu Barnes
Niko Kapanen

He'd compete with Barnes for icetime on the 3rd or 4th, but will likely have someone playing out of position because of him.

I am open for quite some idea's, but the Stars adding another center is like the most rediculous suggestions you can think of.

EroCaps 02-22-2004 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dats-13
Lang and a 5th round pick to Detroit for Jiri Hudler and Niklas Kronwall.

:shakehead

Why not?

leafaholix* 02-22-2004 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EroCaps
Why not?

Because you're not going to land 2 top prospects for Robert Lang.

Verbal Kint* 02-22-2004 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dats-13
Lang and a 5th round pick to Detroit for Jiri Hudler and Niklas Kronwall.

:shakehead

Pretty good trade actually, got to hand it to Regehr, nice job on the thread.

EroCaps 02-22-2004 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leafaholix
Because you're not going to land 2 top prospects for Robert Lang.

Do you consider both Hudler and Kronwall blue-chip prospects? I don't.

leafaholix* 02-22-2004 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EroCaps
Do you consider both Hudler and Kronwall blue-chip prospects? I don't.

Both of them are in the top 5 for Detroit.

EroCaps 02-22-2004 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maple_Leafs_Forever
Pretty good trade actually, got to hand it to Regehr, nice job on the thread.

I agree, full compliments Regehr. (nomad) :p

Pinto 02-22-2004 01:28 PM

great job Regehr. :handclap:

EroCaps 02-22-2004 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leafaholix
Both of them are in the top 5 for Detroit.

I believe it's debatable. Detroit's top prospects aren't everyone else's top prospects, etc.

leafaholix* 02-22-2004 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EroCaps
I believe it's debatable. Detroit's top prospects aren't everyone else's top prospects, etc.

Why would a team trade 2 of it's top 3 or 4 prospects for Robert Lang?

Just be happy you get any talent in return whatsoever.

EroCaps 02-22-2004 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leafaholix
Why would a team trade 2 of it's top 3 or 4 prospects for Robert Lang?

Just be happy you get any talent in return whatsoever.

:lol:

dats-13 02-22-2004 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leafaholix
Why would a team trade 2 of it's top 3 or 4 prospects for Robert Lang?

Just be happy you get any talent in return whatsoever.

exactly

Euro do you realize how much money Lang is going to make over the next few years???....

you aren't going to get 2 of our best prospects for Lang, it simply won't happen...

SingnBluesOnBroadway 02-22-2004 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by regehr
<b>OLAF KOLZIG</b>
THE SKINNY:
The market for starting goalies is thin, but there are a couple teams with question marks. Kolzig has two years left on this contract @ $6.25mil/yr and is 33 yrs old. He has played behind a brutal defense all year and was horrible the first half; however since Dec 31, he has been great, with a .932 save %. The Caps will be looking for a solid defense prospect plus a high draft pick.

<i>NY Rangers</i> - with their playoff hopes fading fast, there is no urgency for Sather to upgrade the goaltending, but he is clearly not happy with the Dunham/Markkanen combo. Potential bait: C Jamie Lundmark, D Fedor Tyukin, D Ivan Baranka, draft picks.

I don't really think the Rangers are in the Kolzig market. It's too late now. The best chance would have been as part of the Jagr deal.

And I don't think that Tytutin is available.

punchy1 02-22-2004 01:40 PM

Well done reg. I don't know that I agree with the overall values but feel that your position is at least reasonable and at best as good as any could ever do. Not any truly out of whack pitches in the mix. Good job.

I would like to see LA land Lang and feel that we have a couple of prospects or picks that would see him come our way. Nice change for him as well. I think we should be moving Bellanger who is a very nice utility center that can score but would be of more value to us in a deal then on the roster. (nice game last night) He will have in the 35 point range by the end of the season if he can avoid the LA curse.

I were thinking that he (he is cheap and youngish but has some years of exp and could help the Caps in that category) and Zizka might be able to draw Lang and
4rth. I wouldn't have the Caps sending back any picks but, they would be getting a young defenceman in Zizka (starting to play well) and will be recieving even more picks and such by the time it is all over and done. They get a good young defenceman and a nice two way center for a player that they can't or won't want to afford.

The Kings get back a player who has had a grand couple of years who is also a Palffy/Straka/Visnovsky/Stumpel etc type of euro that the Kings seem to covet. I am rubbish at these things so probably should just let you lot do these things. No need for the Kings to send off one of our top prospects is all I am getting on. I think we have a couple of players who are ready to step in from the minor leagues and with the solid play of Armstrong think that Ebell is expendable.

neelynugs 02-22-2004 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Modano = God
Sorry to burst your bubble but of all players mentioned, Nyland would be the last one the Stars are looking for.

"Nylander would add depth up the middle"

Mike Modano
Pierre Turgeon
Jason Arnott
Stu Barnes
Niko Kapanen

He'd compete with Barnes for icetime on the 3rd or 4th, but will likely have someone playing out of position because of him.

I am open for quite some idea's, but the Stars adding another center is like the most rediculous suggestions you can think of.

i think boston would be interested in nylander for a 3rd-4th rounder

EroCaps 02-22-2004 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dats-13
exactly

Euro do you realize how much money Lang is going to make over the next few years???....

you aren't going to get 2 of our best prospects for Lang, it simply won't happen...

I assume Leonsis would eat part of Lang's contract.

If the league's leading scorer is moved, it'll be for more than your extras.

McPhee said "hockey deals".

I doubt Lang is traded for just this reason.

habitants9_4 02-22-2004 01:41 PM

You forgot Mike Grier, he's not a superstar, but will most likely be dealt to a team looking for a 3rd/4th line tough guy.

Habs offer:
Duncan Milroy and Marcel Hossa for Witt and Nylander

dats-13 02-22-2004 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EroCaps
I assume Leonsis would eat part of Lang's contract.

If the league's leading scorer is moved, it'll be for more than your extras.

McPhee said "hockey deals".

I doubt Lang is traded for just this reason.

the only reason Lang isn't wearing the winged wheel is b/c Leonsis wont eat enough of his salary to make a trade happen...

if your team is in serious money trouble and is obviously rebuilding than yes, he will be moved for "extras".....

they aren't "extras" they are some seriously talented and very good propects....

"extras" would be the deveraux, mowers, etc...

Wingboy2999 02-22-2004 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EroCaps
I assume Leonsis would eat part of Lang's contract.

If the league's leading scorer is moved, it'll be for more than your extras.

McPhee said "hockey deals".

I doubt Lang is traded for just this reason.

We are not trying to trade you spart parts for Lang. Hudler, I would not mind moving at all. You can get Hudler in a deal but not Kronwall. He have no depth defensively as far as prospects so he will not be traded. Hudler, start with him.

Howard35 02-22-2004 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dats-13
Lang and a 5th round pick to Detroit for Jiri Hudler and Niklas Kronwall.

:shakehead

Come on now, it got me laughing..

:lol:

NJ_Devil_Boy 02-22-2004 02:56 PM

0-4 for NJ. :rolly:

Coffey77 02-22-2004 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wingboy2999
We are not trying to trade you spart parts for Lang. Hudler, I would not mind moving at all. You can get Hudler in a deal but not Kronwall. He have no depth defensively as far as prospects so he will not be traded. Hudler, start with him.

If that's the asking price for Lang then I doubt he gets moved. He's not going to get Hudler and Kronwall. I did hear McPhee said that Lang, Kolzig and Gonchar will not be salary dump moves and will look for players, picks in return. But you won't get much for Lang or Kolzig. Gonchar is different and will probably get a lot.

I'm not too high on Lang anyway. Cap fans will point out how he's doing this year. I look at his playoff stats since that's what a team is looking for. And he hasn't done much. If the Wings are going after a forward, I'd much prefer a guy like Kovalev than Lang.


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