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HabsoluteFate 10-28-2008 10:17 PM

Montreal's PP worries me
 
18th in the league at 17.1%

Lang has been frustrating me for missing so many chances on the left side of the goalie...leave him on the PK and bring someone else on the PP in his place....

Obviously things are not working so a change there couldn't hurt

Fire Brunet* 10-28-2008 10:25 PM

6-1-1

Habskrieg 10-28-2008 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Komisarek (Post 16069177)
6-1-1

this

Galchenyuk x 27 10-28-2008 10:35 PM

Lang plays there during 5 on 3's
not 5 on 4's
he is not the problem.

and....6-1-1

terreur 10-28-2008 10:37 PM

Has anybody told you that we were 6-1-1???

MonacoBlue 10-28-2008 10:37 PM

What I'd like to see is Markov moved back to the left point. Put either Tanguay or Sergei on the right instead. That way the Habs can have the cross-ice Markov to Kovalev connection again. Teams realize that they don't have to watch out for that anymore. As great a player as Tanguay is, he isn't as effective as Markov on the left side and that position has been the cornerstore of the PP for the last 4-5 years.

Redux91 10-28-2008 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Komisarek (Post 16069177)
6-1-1

god damn it, i CLICKEd on the thread with the only thing i was gonna write being "6-1-1


man.. how can u be worried about our pp, when it WILL click more than hit has , and were 6-1!!!

it looks a lil rough now but its SO DAMN EARLY in the season broski, wait till game 30, it should be top 5

Watsatheo 10-28-2008 10:40 PM

We're on pace for over 130 points without a powerplay. Now imagine if we had one. :D

habfaninvictoria 10-28-2008 10:54 PM

The PP isn't really a worry. The finish isn't there, but if I were the opposition I wouldn't want to see our PP. Kovalev EASILY could have had 3 assists on the PP tonight, but Lang, Koivu and Pleks miss OPEN nets. I'd be worried if we had no puck control, puck movement or were unable to obtain the zone, but we're doing all those things and you can see the fear in the opposition. I like Tanguay on the Left point and I think Markov will get better with more experience as the shooter. What I really like is that Tanguay, Markov and Kovalev are able to completely control the play and tempo. The PP is fine

le_sean 10-28-2008 11:17 PM

They are much better 5 on 5 so it makes up for it.

kovaless 10-28-2008 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by habfaninvictoria (Post 16069754)
The PP isn't really a worry. The finish isn't there, but if I were the opposition I wouldn't want to see our PP. Kovalev EASILY could have had 3 assists on the PP tonight, but Lang, Koivu and Pleks miss OPEN nets. I'd be worried if we had no puck control, puck movement or were unable to obtain the zone, but we're doing all those things and you can see the fear in the opposition. I like Tanguay on the Left point and I think Markov will get better with more experience as the shooter. What I really like is that Tanguay, Markov and Kovalev are able to completely control the play and tempo. The PP is fine

That's exactly right, Kovalev should have had about 4-5 points tonight

NewHabsEra* 10-28-2008 11:31 PM

We need a shoter at the point.. As much as I like Markov, he is a prolific passer, not a shoter.. Tanguay does a good job but we have 2 set up men, no shoter at the moment.. Sergei hasnt the slap shot to play there either, we need someone with a hard accurate shot, a guy who can takes one timers.. Andrei Kostitsyn could be the best solution right now, he has a hard heavy shot but I still dont know if its accurate enough to play there, he was the one I wanted to play there even before the season starts but hasnt been tried yet..

68 10-28-2008 11:33 PM

The fact that we're 6-1-1 doesn't mean we don't have to improve some things guys...

:teach:

Habskrieg 10-28-2008 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68 (Post 16070502)
The fact that we're 6-1-1 doesn't mean we don't have to improve some things guys...

:teach:

The fact that we're saying it's 6-1-1 doesn't imply we don't give a damn. We all acknowledge that our PP is starting low. But we're saying that for now things are going fine without it, sure we can improve the PP, but it's also why we mention 8 games, still is very early... and the PP will likely improve. After 20 or 30 games, now we could talk about it, but at the moment it feels too soon, kind of like talking about trades. Too soon, and with the performances, talking about it like we need to change it asap, is well, useless.

:teach:

Judge Sauer* 10-28-2008 11:54 PM

8-4-6-10
8-0-10-10
8-6-3-9

Andrighetto Fabolous 10-29-2008 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by le_sean (Post 16070150)
They are much better 5 on 5 so it makes up for it.

Exactly.

If they were playing poor at even-strength i'd be concerned, but as we saw what our PP is capable in these last couple of years there is no reason to worry at all.

Kriss E 10-29-2008 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HabsoluteFate (Post 16069014)
18th in the league at 17.1%

Lang has been frustrating me for missing so many chances on the left side of the goalie...leave him on the PK and bring someone else on the PP in his place....

Obviously things are not working so a change there couldn't hurt

We create some very nice things on the PP, Lang/Plekanec/Koivu all missed open nets during tonight's PP.
We have, Latendresse/Tanguay/S.Kost/Lang that are new players on our PP this year, on top of moving Markov/Kovalev to the other side.

We have a bunch of creative players, it can take some time for them to click and adapt to one another.

It's not like it's been horrible, the chances are there. Once they start finishing, it'll be much better.

slocheauska 10-29-2008 01:19 AM

When experiencing a not productive powerplay, call 611 immediately.

Montrealer 10-29-2008 01:32 AM

17% over an eight game stretch is not exactly a reason to have a heart attack.

muzion 10-29-2008 02:30 AM

PP looked good for the most part last night, so why should anybody be concerned?!

brownman* 10-29-2008 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MONACOBLUE (Post 16069458)
What I'd like to see is Markov moved back to the left point.

It's an umbrella though, Markov is alone at the point for most of it so he's been able to kinda roam everywhere. Personally, I don't think Markov's ever looked better in the QB role and the Tanguay option down the left side has been opening the cross-seam pass up more than ever. I also like that they seem to be exploring the slot-feed to Plekanec.

Come season's end, this PP will be hovering around 26/27%.

JTWymanFan* 10-29-2008 05:29 AM

:deadhorse :headache: :wedgie: :soap: :hhal:

Kimota 10-29-2008 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by le_sean (Post 16070150)
They are much better 5 on 5 so it makes up for it.

They haven't looked good at all at 5-on-5 actualy.

HH 10-29-2008 05:46 AM

PP is the least of my worries, last night they created so many chances with it, they just couldn't finish. I think we had like 3 or 4 open nets. The guys moved the puck very well and has been the case for several games now.

la25ecoupe 10-29-2008 06:15 AM

Did you guys see that at the last PP, Kovalev was like "Get off Markov, i'll take your position" and he started taking slap shots from the center?

That was coool


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