rumor: leetch to dallas?
 

Brendan Morrow would be great. I'd want defensive prospect Vagner instead of Ott. We have enough 3-4th liners.

I would consider Morrow and Ott a deal that the Rangers would have to do. But I doubt that the Stars would make that offer.

Why do I find it hard to believe...
 

that Dallas would trade Morrow? Doesn't that hurt them at least as much as it would help them? I don't view them as being particularly strong on wings, especially in the 30 and under category. And here's Morrow, a guy who's tallied 20 goals thus far. Plays it tough. I'd look for a less costly solution than Leetch.

yeah SBOB i think you gotta make that deal. ott is gonna be a nice player to have and morrow is exactly the kind of player we need. maybe try to squeeze a 1st out of armstrong if we through in a 4th or another player (mirnov, barnaby, simon).

its not really that hard to believe. if you wanna win you're gonna need a defenseman to go to battle with and leetch is that guy. despite his age he automatically takes their team up a notch and he's a guy who can get 30 minutes a night in the playoffs and play at a top level.

there arent many defenseman out there who can do that that arent already on colorado or detroit.

agreed. people dont seem to realize how much of an impact leetch will have on a good team. he's an amazing defenseman to have on the blueline, we're just used to it. the kind of impact he could have is worth the high price being thrown around for him.

I think we do, but...
 

he's the third leading scorer on that team this season, even tallying more than Modano and Lehtinen. If you're a playoff team that's looking for that extra something to put you into the next round, you don't get rid of one of your top scorers for a defenseman, even if it is Leetch. You look to trade a prospect, pick and/or a young, promising player that's not making a huge impact as of yet. Losing Morrow and gaining Leetch doesn't get this team another round, in my opinion. They'd want Morrow AND Leetch. If not that, keep Morrow and trade for a guy like Sean Hill, who'd cost a lot less and improve you a bit, and overall, likely better with Morrow+Hill than just Leetch.

and leetch isn't UFA. albeit it's one year in a potential lock out year. :D
i posted that i'd want a defensive prospect like vagner instead of ott since we seem to have a lot of that type of player. any counter-point to that remark?

i think to get morrow and ott we would have to spice up the deal, so hows about leetch and rucinsky for morrow, ott and a 3rd round pick

Morrow and a draft pick alone would make the deal for me. If you got anything beyond that it'd be a bonus.

It's not to say Morrow doesnt have value, but that's the move you gotta make to put you over the top and get a playoff defenseman like Leetch. it takes talent to get talent. Yes the stars give up morrow but the rangers give up a lifelong ranger, and for my money one of the top 5 clutch performers in the game today.

It is a price? yeah, but it's not unreasonable considering Dallas has to find a way to keep up with the AVS and Wings.

And as much as i like Gonchar, i've always felt he was overrated and his impact for a team challanging for the stanely cup is just not gonna be as big.

I still think Dallas would be foolish...
 

and I don't see it making them too much better today. While strengthening the blue line, they weaken themselves up front. If you're really trying to contend in the playoffs, do you make yourself weaker anywhere aside from your prospect depth chart? Do you really give up one of your top forwards, who's also happens to be 25? I know you give to get...but a top prospect, #1 and something else is what a contending team give up.

I guess it makes sense if they can then turn their #1 pick, if they have one, into Kovalev, or something similar. I understand the concept of you've gotta give to get...but to me if you're going out to acquire a 36 year old defenseman for a playoff run, you don't weaken your top line in the process.

i guess it really depends on what you value you most in the playoffs. I like Morrow but Leetch is a more valuable asset for a playoff round.

We're not talking about poti or even zubov here, we are talking about a game breaking defenseman who has already won a conn smythe and has tons of big game experience.

especially for a team that deseratly needs to keep up with the jonses that's not too too bad.

Morrow on the other hand is probably a steady 25 goal, 60 point player. Leetch on a good team could be more of a difference between a cup or a golf game and is signed for another year on top of that.

36 or not, leetch is till amongst the elite, though people forget as he cant play his game with this cast of rejects anymore.

really its not as bad of a trade as it would seem considering the rangers have NO one to replace him and finding a guy who would in today's nhl is very difficult.

I don't see any team moving a 23/24 year old powerforward for Leetch.

Definately. I think we are spoiled by Leetch. We forget that he has the ability to do what maybe 2-3 d-man can do in the game and guess what? None of those guys have a Conn Smyth under their belt either. Remember us giving up the likes of Amonte and Weight in 94'? Top notch players we gave up for our cup run. Leetch is a franchise caliber player. You stick him on a real team and he can dominate in the playoffs. Other teams know that. How many defenseman could put up 18 points in 18 games with this team? Not many. Add to that Leetch is one of the best clutch players that are possibly in the game and you have an idea what he's worth.

Leetch is also one of the most physically fit players in hockey. Can play 30 minutes a game in the playoffs for you. I think Leetch would be perfect for a team like Tampa Bay. Lots of good prospects down there that are not contributing to their rise to prominence. Would look perfect in Ranger Blue.

I don't see Dallas trading Morrow for Leetch. It would be one thing if Leetch were a few years younger, and Morrow hadn't made himself such an important part of the team down there, but at this point, I don't see it happening, I'd be really surprised if Morrow was dangled as trade bait for Leetch or anyone else.

If Leetch was a few years younger then the Rangers would laugh at that trade.

Riiiiiiiiight, so we get an aging defensemen and a guy who did absolutely nothing for us the first time around for the low price of our best young player/future captain, and a future darcy tucker. Where do i sign, that sounds wonderful. Leetch is really good and i am not disputing that, but he is what 35ish and Rucinsky isn't what we are looking for. Morrow is unlikely to leave Dallas and given that he is one of the most sought after players in the league, its gonna take much more to pry him away. You also have to figure that Morrow was our best player in the playoffs last year and i'd be willing to bet that he will play a large role in the post season this year as well, so getting rid of him would hurt us now and in the future as well. Morrow is one of the most sought after young players in the league, so to get him, you would likely have to give up some prospects and high draft picks.

You had better pray this trade doesn't happen. What would you do about a new username? ;)

darcy tucker? a third liner? an average of 35-40 points a season? hmm... if that's morrow's top end you might need to put more into the pot. sorry. leetch may be aging but he's a top 5 defensemen. 5th in ice time, he's still 4 years younger than al macinnis, a clutch player, former conn smythe, a game breaker, PP specialist, norris winner, etc etc. All that for a said-darcy tucker player? as far as rucinsky, he's been the most consistent player for us this year and hitchcock is no longer your coach. if you don't want him, we'll replace him with hlavac :D

I'll make you a deal. I'll drive Jan Hlavac from NY to Dallas if all I get is a punch in the face.

I'm thinking he meant that Steve Ott was the "future Darcy Tucker". Morrow is their "best young player/future captain".

What's even funnier is the way you butcher the english language. Nice Job! :bow:

Okay, let's see...certain HOF, Ray Borque, at age 39, gets Brian Rolston, Martin Grenier and a #1 pick. Rob Blake gets Aaron Miller, Adam Deadmarsh, Jared Aulin and a #1. Yeah, Brian Leetch, though, because he is a Ranger, doesn't get a quality package. Typical IceHole fan logic.