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#57 11-17-2008 09:48 PM

Try AK46 on the point
 
Please do. He's got a sick shot and vision. It's time to give him more responsability. He's done it everywhere in his career and has always been dominant at the point on the power play.

And don't scratch the idea after one bad shift. Give him 5 or 6 games. At this point it cannot hurt.

Tanguay - Koivu - Kovalev
Markov - A.Kostitsyn

2nd unit play whoever is having a good game. Hamrlik on the point, with Brisebois or Sergei Kostitsyn.

Do it.

habman6 11-17-2008 09:49 PM

Agree

MonacoBlue 11-17-2008 09:50 PM

It's worth a shot, although it might leave the door open for shorties. Why not just call up Weber and bench Brisebois instead? When Komi comes back, then O'Brutal can sit.

LyleOdelein 11-17-2008 09:51 PM

I'm open to anything that gets Markov back on his left point.

habsfan56 11-17-2008 09:54 PM

why not call up weber, he must be an improvement over brisebois

la25ecoupe 11-17-2008 09:54 PM

But Carbo doesn't agree. Sorry to burst your bubble.

number 11 11-17-2008 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by habman6 (Post 16381452)
Agree

agree

Nyclaus 11-17-2008 09:57 PM

best pointmen IMO are Markov-Tanguay / Hammer-Kovalev...that way Kovy plays 2 minutes on PP, which is what this team needs.

Ross MacLochness 11-17-2008 09:59 PM

Carbo will never go for it, but hell yes I'd try it.

Tanguay-Markov pointman combo was a dud.

Stradale 11-17-2008 10:00 PM

Andrei? On the point? On the right? With Carbonneau?

Not happening.

Chomsky 11-17-2008 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ross MacLochness (Post 16381666)
Carbo will never go for it, but hell yes I'd try it.

Tanguay-Markov pointman combo was a dud.

Never say never.. after all he surprised everyone by putting Kovalev with Koivu and Tanguay....

Kriss E 11-17-2008 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Chomsky (Post 16381683)
Never say never.. after all he surprised everyone by putting Kovalev with Koivu and Tanguay....

And putting Kosto with Plek/Higgy

Chomsky 11-17-2008 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Kriss E (Post 16382062)
And putting Kosto with Plek/Higgy

I'm trying to repress memory, please don't remind me. :shakehead

11alias11 11-17-2008 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by habsfan56 (Post 16381574)
why not call up weber, he must be an improvement over brisebois

because the player on the right point needs to be a left handed shot

Chomsky 11-17-2008 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 11alias11 (Post 16382266)
because the player on the right point needs to be a left handed shot

The hell are you talking about.

#57 11-17-2008 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Chomsky (Post 16382301)
The hell are you talking about.

one-timers

Chomsky 11-17-2008 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by #57 (Post 16382315)
one-timers

Right, cuz the Point man is only getting feed by the Left D, not by Kovy.

A Right-hand Point man has advantages as well, ask the SJS.

goalchenyuk 11-17-2008 10:49 PM

Andrei Kostitsyn ? big no !

Sergei Kostitsyn ? big yes ! .

Souffle 11-17-2008 10:54 PM

I wouldn't put him on the point but I'd have him high with the pointmen in an umbrella. Play it like a stationary 3 on 2 to break down the PK forwards and set up for one timers.

But that's Kovalev's spot. So it would have to be the 2nd unit.

11alias11 11-17-2008 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Chomsky (Post 16382384)
Right, cuz the Point man is only getting feed by the Left D, not by Kovy.

A Right-hand Point man has advantages as well, ask the SJS.

But the right d-man is being fed by kovy from the half boards and he is usually along the boards himself. Not many one-timer opportuniteies there. Last 2 years when we had the #1 PP there was Streit (hard LH shooter) and Souray (hard LH shooter) The way Montreal sets up their PP it works best if the man on the right point is a hard LH shooter. Sergei doesn't work there since he doesn't have that hard of a shot. Same goes for Tanguay. Andrei on the other hand has a hard shot. His defensive ability is the question mark there.

Chomsky 11-17-2008 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 11alias11 (Post 16382793)
But the right d-man is being fed by kovy from the half boards and he is usually along the boards himself. Not many one-timer opportuniteies there. Last 2 years when we had the #1 PP there was Streit (hard LH shooter) and Souray (hard LH shooter) The way Montreal sets up their PP it works best if the man on the right point is a hard LH shooter. Sergei doesn't work there since he doesn't have that hard of a shot. Same goes for Tanguay. Andrei on the other hand has a hard shot. His defensive ability is the question mark there.

But the right-hand Point man can make quicker and more accurate passes to the left-side than a lefty.

You're aware that Sergei won the OHL hardest shot award 2 years ago? He has a shot as hard if not harder than Streit's.

#57 11-17-2008 11:27 PM

Defensive ability, is that a joke? Streit and Souray were succesful in that spot, and they were far from defensive stalwarts.

AK46 can more than hold his own for a couple of minutes on D a night on the power play, I'm sure.

It's time for AK46 to become the main forward on this club. It has happen.

11alias11 11-17-2008 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Chomsky (Post 16382875)
But the right-hand Point man can make quicker and more accurate passes to the left-side than a lefty.

You're aware that Sergei won the OHL hardest shot award 2 years ago? He has a shot as hard if not harder than Streit's.

A RH shot on the right point means no one-timers....pretty much ever. Markov being LH on the left point never uses one-timers and his bread & butter is those cross ice passes to Kovalev & sneaking in backdoor and tapping the puck in. You put a RH shot on the right point and that gives the opposition one less thing to worry about. A LH shot there makes it much more multi-faceted and versatile and keeps the opposition on their toes.

HockeyF3ind 11-18-2008 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Nyclaus (Post 16381630)
best pointmen IMO are Markov-Tanguay / Hammer-Kovalev...that way Kovy plays 2 minutes on PP, which is what this team needs.

This is a pretty decent idea IMO...more Kovy PP but an evolved role....makes it harder to figure Kovy on the PP out, and probably will give him a bigger repetoire.

Chomsky 11-18-2008 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 11alias11 (Post 16382936)
A RH shot on the right point means no one-timers....pretty much ever. Markov being LH on the left point never uses one-timers and his bread & butter is those cross ice passes to Kovalev & sneaking in backdoor and tapping the puck in. You put a RH shot on the right point and that gives the opposition one less thing to worry about. A LH shot there makes it much more multi-faceted and versatile and keeps the opposition on their toes.

Dude. Ever heard about opportunity cost? Google it up.

If you sacrifice the one-timer, you gain more passing options, which is the strength of this team. And, you'll get one-timers from either, players in the slot or high in the O zone (where Kovy used to score on his one-timers so often) or if the player in the right corridor (Kovy), send it back to you.

Either way, I saw Weber doing a few one-timers from passes by Markov or Hammer, so I bet he can take some from the PPQ too!

I don't even know why I'm arguing with you, I want Andrei or Sergei on the point more than a righty at this point in time. Keep kovalev on the right side, it's his spot.


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