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worstfaceoffmanever 11-21-2008 12:33 AM

11/21/08: Nashville @ Tampa Bay
:nashville @ :bolts



Nashville Predators (9-8-1, 19pts 3rd Central, 9th West)

Nashville Team Leaders
Goals: Shea Weber, Jason Arnott, 8
Assists: Jean-Pierre Dumont, 16
Points: Dumont, 20
Power Play Goals: Arnott, 4
Power Play Scoring: Dumont, 8 (1g+7a)
Short-Handed Goals: Four tied with 1
Short-Handed Scoring: Three tied with 2
Shots: Weber, 58
Shooting Percentage: Arnott, 22.9%
Plus-Minus: Weber, +8
Penalty Minutes: Jordin Tootoo, 41
Giveaways: Dumont, 16
Takeaways: Dan Hamhuis, 14
Turnover Differential: Tootoo, +6
Faceoffs Won: Radek Bonk, 114-74
Faceoff Percentage: Radek Bonk, 60.6%
Time On Ice: Weber, 24:13
Wins: Dan Ellis, 7-8-1
Minutes Played: Ellis, 937
Goals Against Average: Ellis, 3.07
Save Percentage: Ellis, .895
Shutouts: None Recorded

Nashville Fun Fact: The Predators' defensemen have accounted for nearly 30% of the team's goal total. Shea Weber has eight, Ryan Suter and Ville Koistinen each have two, and Dan Hamhuis, Greg De Vries, Kevin Klein and Greg Zanon all have one.

Nashville Player to Watch: Radek Bonk!

No, seriously. Bonk is the only Predator to ever record a hat trick against the Bolts (1/4/2001), and has 34 points (13g-21a) in 43 games lifetime against Tampa Bay, and has three points in his last four games.

Nashville Reason to Worry: The Predators have not beaten the Lightning in Tampa Bay since March 24, 1999.

Nashville Injury Report
Greg De Vries (Broken Nose, Questionable)

Nashville Projected Lineup



Tampa Bay Lightning (5-7-6, 16 pts, 4th Southeast, 13th East)

Tampa Bay Team Leaders
Goals: Vincent Lecavalier, 7
Assists: Martin St. Louis, Mark Recchi, 9
Points: St. Louis, Lecavalier, 13
Power Play Goals: Lecavalier, 4
Short-Handed Goals: None Recorded
Shots: Lecavalier, 74
Shooting Percentage: Jussi Jokinen, 20.0%
Plus-Minus: Vaclav Prospal, +6
Penalty Minutes: Ryan Malone, 29
Hits: Evgeny Artyukhin, 42
Blocked Shots: Mike Lundin, 37
Giveaways: Lecavalier, 18
Takeaways: Prospal, 16
Turnover Differential: Prospal, +7
Faceoffs Won: Lecavalier, 145-154
Faceoff Percentage: Chris Gratton, 62.2%
Time On Ice: Paul Ranger, 24:37
Wins: Mike Smith, 4-4-5
Minutes Played: Smith, 809
Goals Against Average: Smith, 2.45
Save Percentage: Smith, .929
Shutouts: Smith, 1

Tampa Bay Fun Fact: The Bolts have a knack for taking games into extra frames. Tampa Bay have had eight overtime or shootout contests to this point, and are 2-6 in said contests.

Tampa Bay Player to Watch: Defenseman Steve Eminger has four points in his last two games. (I know, right?)

Tampa Bay Reason to Worry: With the wheels having absolutely fallen off in November, it's hard to find something NOT to worry about for this team.

Tampa Bay Injuries
Gary Roberts (Upper Body, DTD)
Ryan Malone (Leg, Probable)

Tampa Bay Projected Lineup
Stamkos-Lecavalier-St. Louis



Media Coverage: The game will be televised on SunSports and broadcast on AM 620 WDAE "The Sports Animal" in Tampa (Dave Mishkin and Phil Esposito with the call on the radio). The game will be covered on FSN-South and broadcast on 104.5 "The Zone" in Nashville (Weber and Crisp on TV, Callahan on radio).

jstreet 11-21-2008 11:59 AM

so Arnott is alive and healthy and will definetly play tonight?

Seth Lake 11-21-2008 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by burnlikestars (Post 16436448)
so Arnott is alive and healthy and will definetly play tonight?

Yes, Arnott has practiced in both full team practices Wednesday and Thursday without incident after the team scheduled off-day Tuesday.

jstreet 11-21-2008 04:53 PM

I think we win this one, there is no good reason not to.

Although nothing would have made me happier than beating a Melrose coached team.

ElRey 11-21-2008 05:50 PM

There is a god!

Originally Posted by worstfaceoffmanever (Post 16432356)

Nashville Injury Report
Greg De Vries (Broken Nose, Questionable)

C'mon, c'mon, c'mon...big money...

jstreet 11-21-2008 06:22 PM

it would be strange but good to see both Ville and Klein in the same game.

Joe T Choker 11-21-2008 08:46 PM

stellar showing guys :shakehead

Seth Lake 11-21-2008 09:06 PM

Watched most of the second and third on the internet without sound (I think it was a Russian telecast?), anyhow...looked like Mike Smith really made some nice saves for Tampa Bay to perserve their early lead and we simply couldn't finish once we started playing catch up.

I have to think that Peverley cost himself tonight in the race to perserve his roster spot and Koistinen really got nothing accomplished in almost 9:00 of PP time.

Need to get some finish, definitely thought we could have used Jones tonight in some of those net scrums for the loose pucks, but won't second guess the move.

Bottom line, the 12 forwards on the roster tonight didn't get it done. Thankfully for them, it appears that they will get another chance to get the job done Sunday at Carolina (I'll be at that game) and if they don't...look for a shakeup of some magnitude before Tuesday's game vs. St. Louis.

Seriously, if Klein cannot get into the lineup in place of Koistinen...then he needs to be used as an asset to acquire a forward that can play on a scoring line - he serves us no purpose sitting in the press box for more than a full-season.

Seth Lake 11-21-2008 09:24 PM

Pihlstrom had two goals off primary assists from Patric Hornqvist to lead Milwaukee to a 3-0 shutout victory at Iowa. Ryan Jones scored the third goal late in the third period.

Antti and Patric each had 5 shots on goal, while Jones scored on his only shot (admittedly he was playing with Mike Santorelli and Kelsey Wilson, while O'Reilly was centering the top line).


Enoch 11-22-2008 12:45 AM

The forwards we iced tonight are simply not going to cut it. Additionally, the drop-off between our top 3 defenseman and bottom 3 defenseman is drastic. Devries has fallen off the face of the earth, Zanon is....well Zanon (a hard working 6/7th defenseman), Klein will not get a chance with this organization (as seen by his handling the past 3 years), and Koistenen is lost with out Zidlicky. We need 2 scoring wingers and a 4th defenseman. I think the defenseman is in this organization. I also think we can go out and get the winger's we need to improve this offense. Does Poile have the creativity to make something happen here? Are internal options the best fit for this team? Is Devries movable from a lockerroom standpoint? Would anyone want him?

I do not know the answers. I do know that this team is sitting about where they should record wise, and higher expectations are simply unrealistic at this point. It will be interesting to see how things shake out in the coming weeks.

sparkle twin 11-22-2008 01:40 AM

(I know, Eklund, but...) The other day Eklund had a list of rumors and one of them was a deal around deVries for Vermette (with of course additions on one/both sides).

That was really nice of us to let that guy just walk from the circle into the crease without so much as touching him until Ellis stopped him. Anybody feel like playing D?

0-7 on PP doesn't help either.

DManPreds11 11-22-2008 03:24 AM

Caught the game late, I have one comment on it and echo what spank303 posted. I would LOVE to see our so called d-men when around our net let Ellis find the puck instead of them with their heads down trying to find the it, while the opposing players are crashing. Turn around and DEFEND the "body" and put somebody on their arse!!!! Ok, I have two, nice pass WARD! :shakehead

worstfaceoffmanever 11-22-2008 04:05 AM


Originally Posted by SLake (Post 16443738)
Seriously, if Klein cannot get into the lineup in place of Koistinen...then he needs to be used as an asset to acquire a forward that can play on a scoring line - he serves us no purpose sitting in the press box for more than a full-season.

I would just as soon trade them both at this point and call up Sulzer and Franson, and sit De Vries. Koistinen is slow and easily physically dominated down low, and Klein hasn't been that great in his own end, plus he is in Trotz's doghouse with seemingly no chance of getting out within the next millennium or two.

darth5 11-22-2008 10:49 AM

we desperately need more of a shake-up ASAP. Most of the tentative fanbase here won't tolerate the product we are icing right now. I am really frustrated with the caliber of D talent we have in Mil. that we are settling for such mediocrity below the top pairing. Inexcusable.

jstreet 11-22-2008 01:09 PM

the work ethic was the most embarassing part of last night games, totally got outworked for 60 straight minutes

worstfaceoffmanever 11-22-2008 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by spank303 (Post 16446124)
(I know, Eklund, but...) The other day Eklund had a list of rumors and one of them was a deal around deVries for Vermette (with of course additions on one/both sides).

Vermette has blown chunks this season, but if it gets De Vries off the roster...

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