Worst Montreal Canadien of Recent History (Round 1)
In honor of a recent thread with the best 100 Canadiens of all time, I am opening a poll to figure out the worst Montreal Canadien of recent history.
I did far more research than I would like to admit. So here is my criteria:
-Must have played between 1984-85 and today (IE: Koivu & Roy's current career span combined)
-Only Montreal stats, regular season, count.
-Must have played 20 or more games for Montreal.
Now, like the prospect polls, I will nominate 15 guys, but post more players here. In each poll "other" is an option. If other wins, then I will figure out who the heck was gathering those votes and redo that round with them in it.
I will post the list of nominees I came up with in full, including career Habs stats, in the subject thread.
My nominations are based on actual statistical badness, my own memory and in some cases, popular demand. The actual nominees will be at my discretion to start.
Poll closes in two days.
Here is the list:
Pierre Sevigny (F)
GP 75, 4g, 5a, 9p, 64pim
Randy Mckay (F)
GP 75, 6g, 13a, 19p, 72pim
Sergei Samsonov (F)
GP 63, 9g, 17a, 26p, 10pim
Juha Lind (F)
GP 60, 4g, 6a, 10p, 8pim
Mariusz Czerkawski (F)
GP 43, 5g, 9a, 14p, 16pim
Jonas Hoglund (F)
GP 102, 14g, 15a, 29p, 22pim
Matt Higgins (F)
GP 57, 1g, 2a, 3p, 6pim
Andre Bashkirov (F)
GP 30, 0g, 3a, 3p, 0pim
Johan Witehall (F)
GP 26, 1g, 1a, 2p, 6pim
Garth Murray (F)
GP 80, 7g, 2a, 9p, 76pim
Niklas Sundstrom (F)
GP 154, 19g, 30a, 49p
Pierre Dagenais (F)
GP 82, 23g, 17a, 39p, 40pim
Jason Ward (F)
GP 105, 10g, 10a, 20p, 43pim
Donald Audette (F)
GP 90, 15g, 22a, 37p, 43pim
Sergei Berezin (F)
29, 3g, 6a, 10p, 4pim
Trent McCleary (F)
GP 58, 1g, 0a, 1p, 33pim
Jason Dawe (F)
GP 37, 4g, 5a, 9p, 14pim
Sebastien Bordeleau (F)
GP 85, 8g, 17a, 25p, 38pim
Mick Vukota (F)
GP 22, 0g, 0a, 0p, 76pim
Marko Kiprusoff (D)
GP 24, 0g, 4a, 8p, 8pim
Bryan Fogarty (D)
GP 34, 6g, 4a, 10p, 44pim
Patrick Traverse (D)
GP 109, 4g, 19a, 23p, 48pim
Christian Laflamme (D)
GP 54, 0g, 5a, 5p, 50pim
Brett Clark (D)
GP 102, 3g, 2a, 5p, 36pim
Ryan O'Byrne (D)
GP 50, 1g, 9a, 10p, 61pim
Janne Niinimaa (D)
GP 41, 0g, 3a, 3p, 36pim
Ron Hainsey (D)
GP 32, 1g, 1a, 2p, 4pim
Miloslav Guren (D)
GP 36, 1g, 3a, 4p, 16pim
Barry Richter (D)
GP 25, 0g, 2a, 2p, 10pim
Igor Ulanov (D)
GP 123, 4g, 15a, 19p, 197pim
Zarley Zalapski (D)
GP 28, 1g, 5a, 6p, 22pim
Scott Lachance (D)
GP 74, 1g, 7a, 8p, 33pim
Andre Racicot (G)
GP 68, S% .880, 26-23-8
Steve Penney (G)
GP 76, S% .865, 32-30-10
David Aebischer (G)
GP 39, S% .898, 17-15-3
A note here, statistically at least, some of these guys are not quite as bad as we seem to remember. Dagenais, Aebischer, Traverse, Samsonov, etc. Now that's just statistically. So yeah... but still.
I would vote for Samsonov considering the hype he had coming over in the offseason. Certainly not the worst player of the bunch, but in relation to how good he was before he came to Montreal, he was awful.
I would take O'Byrne and Hainsey out because of their age, it is unfair to both. I also think Sundstrom was a good 3rd liner. Garth Murray was a good 4th liner.
Sundstrom played more than 99 games...im pretty sure of that
Edit: 154gp 19g 30a 49p
he wasn't that bad
I vote for Sylvain Blouin
Where is Popovich? That guy was absolutely brutal.
I still have nightmares of Traverse
I voted for Samsonov but Niinimaa is a close second.
I voted for Christian Laflamme who was brutal. The only dman who was worse than him, in my opinion, was Robert Dirk who however played only 3 games in a Habs uniform. We had obtained him in a trade with Anaheim for Jim Campbell who himself wasn't a very good player either.
How about Doug Wickeneiser (sp) ?
Edit : sorry i voted Others and posted before reading the original post explaining "Recent history", this one is not so recent.
I think Sundstrom is a very bad choice to be put in this. He was never expected to be an offensive threat when he came here. His expectations as being an offensive phenom were pretty much done after he never produced offensively. But the guy was an awesome 3rd line defensive forward, who could chip in when needed. He played a very good all around game.
Also, Dagenais was on pace for for a 27-goal season during one year here (17 goals in 50 games).. so he was no-where near the worst.
O'Byrne and Hainsey were prospects with 50 or less games.. I see no reason to add them.
Donald Audette was awesome until the freak injury. He, like Zednik, were pretty done offensively after that. Auddy had one hell of a playoffs for us in his first year (10 pts in 12 gp).
Oh, I went with Czerkawski because I was most excited about him coming when we acquired him.
Gerald Diduck. Seriously it was the first Hab player to be booed out of Montreal. I'm not talking about one game like Patrick. He was the type of player that was so embarassing to watch play that they had to trade him because he was eaten alive by Habs fans.
Aaron Downey was pretty useless. Worse than Garth Murray for sure
But the worse of the worse was Sergei Samsonov :cry:
lol...thanks OP, that list brought back a lot of bad memories. Some tough choices, but I think I yelled at Traverse the most...so he gets my vote.
I really liked Scott Thorton. He had major acceleration along the wall. If the Habs had a player like that with a Mike McPhee a whole new dimension would be there
Surprised Murray Baron isn't on the list.. in terms of sheer frustration that guy was on the top. He was like Brisebois but with more errors in his zone..
Flip-flopping between Higgins and McCleary by virtue of sheer uselessness, rather than perhaps level of terrible. Especially Higgins given he was a 1st rounder...
How can Matt Higgins be any better than all those guys? As much Traverse and others sucked, at least they were good enough to be bad in the NHL....Higgins wasn't even good enough to be in the NHL.....Add to that the little hype about being a 1st rounder and you have the perfect recipe for being the worst....
I voted other.
I also stuck with draft choices (no trades or free agents).
Choose from among
It was tough not to vote for Matt Higgins, but the winner is
Eric freaking :handclap:Chouinard:handclap:.
Matt Higgins. He was picked at a time that could have turned the franchise around but instead, it just have stretched the dark era for an extra couple of years.
Higgins atleast played 57 games. Ryan picked 10 spots earlier the year before played a whopping 8 games in the NHL.
Guys like Higgins or Ryan were not given top 6 ice time. Not that it probably would have made a difference. But Traverse was given top 4 minutes as a Hab. Not his fault, but considering the opportunities he received from the Habs, and the limited results. That's why I went with him over M. Higgins.
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