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Lucius 11-30-2008 10:53 PM

Round 4: Worst Canadien In Recent History?
Well that was absurd. Niinimaa and Czerkawski tied in the initial ballot and then AGAIN in the run-off.

So let's just go to Round 4. Now to determine the 5th worst Hab!


Worst Montreal Canadiens in Recent Memory
1. Patrick Traverse (26.44%)
2. Sergei Samsonov (24.14%)
3. Mariusz Czerkawski / Janne Niinimaa (15.49%)
4. ...

No one, save the two winners, were removed this time. I added Sylvain Blouin and Miloslav Guren to replace them.


In honor of a recent thread with the best 100 Canadiens of all time, I am opening a poll to figure out the worst Montreal Canadien of recent history.

I did far more research than I would like to admit. So here is my criteria:

-Must have played between 1984-85 and today (IE: Koivu & Roy's current career span combined)
-Only Montreal stats, regular season, count.
-Must have played 20 or more games for Montreal.

Now, like the prospect polls, I will nominate 15 guys, but post more players here. In each poll "other" is an option. If other wins, then I will figure out who the heck was gathering those votes and redo that round with them in it.

I will post the list of nominees I came up with in full, including career Habs stats, in the subject thread.

My nominations are based on actual statistical badness, my own memory and in some cases, popular demand. The actual nominees will be at my discretion to start. Some people - O'Byrne - are solely on this list to demonstrate their relative stats and will not be in the poll unless there is truly popular demand.

Poll closes in one day.

Here is the list of people I considered.

Pierre Sevigny (F)
GP 75, 4g, 5a, 9p, 64pim

Randy Mckay (F)
GP 75, 6g, 13a, 19p, 72pim

Sergei Samsonov (F)
GP 63, 9g, 17a, 26p, 10pim

Juha Lind (F)
GP 60, 4g, 6a, 10p, 8pim

Mariusz Czerkawski (F)
GP 43, 5g, 9a, 14p, 16pim

Jonas Hoglund (F)
GP 102, 14g, 15a, 29p, 22pim

Matt Higgins (F)
GP 57, 1g, 2a, 3p, 6pim

Andre Bashkirov (F)
GP 30, 0g, 3a, 3p, 0pim

Johan Witehall (F)
GP 26, 1g, 1a, 2p, 6pim

Garth Murray (F)
GP 80, 7g, 2a, 9p, 76pim

Niklas Sundstrom (F)
GP 154, 19g, 30a, 49p, 56pim

Pierre Dagenais (F)
GP 82, 23g, 17a, 39p, 40pim

Jason Ward (F)
GP 105, 10g, 10a, 20p, 43pim

Donald Audette (F)
GP 90, 15g, 22a, 37p, 43pim

Sergei Berezin (F)
29, 3g, 6a, 10p, 4pim

Trent McCleary (F)
GP 58, 1g, 0a, 1p, 33pim

Jason Dawe (F)
GP 37, 4g, 5a, 9p, 14pim

Sebastien Bordeleau (F)
GP 85, 8g, 17a, 25p, 38pim

Mick Vukota (F)
GP 22, 0g, 0a, 0p, 76pim

P.J. Stock (F)
GP 20, 1g, 2a, 3p, 32pim

Sylvain Blouin (F)
GP 22, 0g, 0a, 0p, 62pim

Jason Ward (F)
GP 105, 10g, 10a, 20pts, 43pim

Eric Houde (F)
GP 30, 2g, 3a, 5p, 4pim

Marko Kiprusoff (D)
GP 24, 0g, 4a, 8p, 8pim

Bryan Fogarty (D)
GP 34, 6g, 4a, 10p, 44pim

Patrick Traverse (D)
GP 109, 4g, 19a, 23p, 48pim

Christian Laflamme (D)
GP 54, 0g, 5a, 5p, 50pim

Brett Clark (D)
GP 102, 3g, 2a, 5p, 36pim

Ryan O'Byrne (D)
GP 50, 1g, 9a, 10p, 61pim

Janne Niinimaa (D)
GP 41, 0g, 3a, 3p, 36pim

Ron Hainsey (D)
GP 32, 1g, 1a, 2p, 4pim

Miloslav Guren (D)
GP 36, 1g, 3a, 4p, 16pim

Barry Richter (D)
GP 25, 0g, 2a, 2p, 10pim

Igor Ulanov (D)
GP 123, 4g, 15a, 19p, 197pim

Zarley Zalapski (D)
GP 28, 1g, 5a, 6p, 22pim

Scott Lachance (D)
GP 74, 1g, 7a, 8p, 33pim

Murray Baron (D)
GP 60, 1g, 5a, 6p, 107pim

Andre Racicot (G)
GP 68, S% .880, 26-23-8

Steve Penney (G)
GP 76, S% .865, 32-30-10

David Aebischer (G)
GP 39, S% .898, 17-15-3

NOTE: Popular requests for Terry Ryan, Robert Dirk and Gordie Dwyer have been skipped, as they didn't have enough games played. The intent is to consider guys who played regularly for Montreal.

Chris Cutter 11-30-2008 10:54 PM

Sergei Bereziiiiiiiiiiiin

Iwishihadacup 11-30-2008 10:55 PM


oh wait!

Lucius 11-30-2008 10:58 PM


Originally Posted by Iwishihadacup (Post 16585055)

oh wait!

LOL - Two replies, no one voted! :P

terreur 12-01-2008 12:29 AM

Johan Witehall was quite brutal

cap10bfl 12-01-2008 12:42 AM

add frederic chabot

Lucius 12-01-2008 01:06 AM


Originally Posted by cap10bfl (Post 16586307)
add frederic chabot

He didn't play many games and his stats in Montreal were not really terrible.


vokiel 12-01-2008 02:00 AM

Marcel Hossa?

overlords 12-01-2008 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by vokiel (Post 16586795)
Marcel Hossa?

Hossa!? :scared:

CH4 12-01-2008 08:59 AM

add Eric chouinard.

voted berezin

Darz 12-01-2008 10:49 AM

Sergei Berezin

Peter Puck 12-01-2008 10:51 AM

I voted other since my vote goes to: Patrick Traverse.
He was just that bad. He deserves to be 1st and 5th on this list.

CH4 12-01-2008 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by Peter Puck (Post 16588688)
I voted other since my vote goes to: Patrick Traverse.
He was just that bad. He deserves to be 1st and 5th on this list.

That is why he is 1st :p:

Lucius 12-01-2008 01:00 PM

Where'd all the Bashkirov haters go? :)

Bring_Bak_Damphousse 12-01-2008 01:07 PM

damnit a vote for Juha is wasted...but he still gets my vote. :D

12jf54 12-01-2008 01:12 PM

My vote has to go to Dagenais...What a flop !

benji 12-01-2008 04:13 PM

Gotta go with Berezin...the only memorable thing he did was score the club's 10000th goal. Why him?

Edit: I think Jim Cummins could deserve some consideration...1999-00 Montreal Canadiens NHL 47 3 5 8 92

Lone Rogue 12-01-2008 04:18 PM

PJ Stock, people.

Peter Puck 12-01-2008 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by CH4THECUP (Post 16588695)
That is why he is 1st :p:

Just being 1st on this list doesn't do justice to how bad he really was.

Fish on The Sand 12-01-2008 05:03 PM

if there was a tie for 3rd wouyld that not make this for 5th?

Lucius 12-01-2008 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by Fish on The Sand (Post 16593980)
if there was a tie for 3rd wouyld that not make this for 5th?

Yes, and it is. This is Round 4, for 5th spot :)

One Man Rock Band 12-01-2008 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by Lucius (Post 16594414)
Yes, and it is. This is Round 4, for 5th spot :)

You could always make another thread with a "tie-breaker" poll with just the two players.

Pierre Dagenais 12-01-2008 07:14 PM

Who is voting for Pierre Dagenais? :shakehead

24Cups 12-01-2008 07:27 PM

Robert Dirk.

Magic33 12-01-2008 07:30 PM

I voted for Racicot.. I mean, when your nickname is "red light" you know you are just plain awful.

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