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Lucius 12-04-2008 10:58 AM

Round 7: Worst Canadien in Recent History?
 
Juha Lind wins in a low number of votes in general. Hopefully turn out is better this round.

Removing Bashkirov again, since despite popular demand, no one voted for him. Also dropped Guren. Adding Garth Murray, readding Jason Dawe, and new list entry Yves Racine.

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Worst Montreal Canadiens in Recent Memory
1. Patrick Traverse (26.44%)
2. Sergei Samsonov (24.14%)
3T. Mariusz Czerkawski (15.49%)
3T. Janne Niinimaa (15.49%)
5. Sergei Berezin (21%)
6. Matt Higgins (28.38%)
7. Juha Lind (14.71%)
8.
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10.

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In honor of a recent thread with the best 100 Canadiens of all time, I am opening a poll to figure out the worst Montreal Canadien of recent history.

I did far more research than I would like to admit. So here is my criteria:

-Must have played between 1984-85 and today (IE: Koivu & Roy's current career span combined)
-Only Montreal stats, regular season, count.
-Must have played 20 or more games for Montreal.

Now, like the prospect polls, I will nominate 15 guys, but post more players here. In each poll "other" is an option. If other wins, then I will figure out who the heck was gathering those votes and redo that round with them in it.

I will post the list of nominees I came up with in full, including career Habs stats, in the subject thread.

My nominations are based on actual statistical badness, my own memory and in some cases, popular demand. The actual nominees will be at my discretion to start. Some people - O'Byrne - are solely on this list to demonstrate their relative stats and will not be in the poll unless there is truly popular demand.

Poll closes in one day.

Here is the list of people I considered.

Pierre Sevigny (F)
GP 75, 4g, 5a, 9p, 64pim

Randy Mckay (F)
GP 75, 6g, 13a, 19p, 72pim

Sergei Samsonov (F)
GP 63, 9g, 17a, 26p, 10pim


Juha Lind (F)
GP 60, 4g, 6a, 10p, 8pim


Mariusz Czerkawski (F)
GP 43, 5g, 9a, 14p, 16pim


Jonas Hoglund (F)
GP 102, 14g, 15a, 29p, 22pim

Matt Higgins (F)
GP 57, 1g, 2a, 3p, 6pim

Andre Bashkirov (F)
GP 30, 0g, 3a, 3p, 0pim

Johan Witehall (F)
GP 26, 1g, 1a, 2p, 6pim

Garth Murray (F)
GP 80, 7g, 2a, 9p, 76pim

Niklas Sundstrom (F)
GP 154, 19g, 30a, 49p, 56pim

Pierre Dagenais (F)
GP 82, 23g, 17a, 39p, 40pim

Jason Ward (F)
GP 105, 10g, 10a, 20p, 43pim

Donald Audette (F)
GP 90, 15g, 22a, 37p, 43pim

Sergei Berezin (F)
29, 3g, 6a, 10p, 4pim


Trent McCleary (F)
GP 58, 1g, 0a, 1p, 33pim

Jason Dawe (F)
GP 37, 4g, 5a, 9p, 14pim

Sebastien Bordeleau (F)
GP 85, 8g, 17a, 25p, 38pim

Mick Vukota (F)
GP 22, 0g, 0a, 0p, 76pim

P.J. Stock (F)
GP 20, 1g, 2a, 3p, 32pim

Sylvain Blouin (F)
GP 22, 0g, 0a, 0p, 62pim

Jason Ward (F)
GP 105, 10g, 10a, 20pts, 43pim

Eric Houde (F)
GP 30, 2g, 3a, 5p, 4pim

Marko Kiprusoff (D)
GP 24, 0g, 4a, 8p, 8pim

Bryan Fogarty (D)
GP 34, 6g, 4a, 10p, 44pim

Patrick Traverse (D)
GP 109, 4g, 19a, 23p, 48pim


Christian Laflamme (D)
GP 54, 0g, 5a, 5p, 50pim

Brett Clark (D)
GP 102, 3g, 2a, 5p, 36pim

Ryan O'Byrne (D)
GP 50, 1g, 9a, 10p, 61pim

Janne Niinimaa (D)
GP 41, 0g, 3a, 3p, 36pim


Ron Hainsey (D)
GP 32, 1g, 1a, 2p, 4pim

Miloslav Guren (D)
GP 36, 1g, 3a, 4p, 16pim

Barry Richter (D)
GP 25, 0g, 2a, 2p, 10pim

Igor Ulanov (D)
GP 123, 4g, 15a, 19p, 197pim

Zarley Zalapski (D)
GP 28, 1g, 5a, 6p, 22pim

Scott Lachance (D)
GP 74, 1g, 7a, 8p, 33pim

Murray Baron (D)
GP 60, 1g, 5a, 6p, 107pim

Yves Racine (D)
GP 72, 4g, 10a, 14p, 68pim

Andre Racicot (G)
GP 68, S% .880, 26-23-8

Steve Penney (G)
GP 76, S% .865, 32-30-10

David Aebischer (G)
GP 39, S% .898, 17-15-3

NOTE: Popular requests for Terry Ryan, Robert Dirk and Gordie Dwyer have been skipped, as they didn't have enough games played. The intent is to consider guys who played regularly for Montreal.

CH4 12-04-2008 11:02 AM

Again, I vote for the speedy Murray baron.

Analyzer 12-04-2008 11:03 AM

Seeing all the **** d we've had, no wonder Gainey and co went mad and drafted all those dman.

Lucius 12-04-2008 11:05 AM

Ugh - Note this is voting for the 8th, not 7th worst and Jason Dawe was a F.

One Man Rock Band 12-04-2008 12:09 PM

I loved Juha!! lol Damn you ****ers.

Hoglund.

Iwishihadacup 12-04-2008 12:41 PM

No mentionning Jason Ward?

Pierre Dagenais 12-04-2008 12:43 PM

Trying to keep Pierre Dagenais alive.

Voted Hoglund

WeThreeKings 12-04-2008 12:44 PM

Christianne Laflamme.

Does anyone not remember how BAD he was?

TonyTinglebone 12-04-2008 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iwishihadacup (Post 16643921)
No mentionning Jason Ward?

I've been voting for him since the 1st round

Iwishihadacup 12-04-2008 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gorman03 (Post 16644980)
I've been voting for him since the 1st round

me too!!

Darz 12-04-2008 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeThreeKings (Post 16643977)
Christianne Laflamme.

Does anyone not remember how BAD he was?

Yup. Outside of Traverse, he might be the worst habs dman I have ever seen.

Obviously my vote is for Christian Laflamme

One Man Rock Band 12-04-2008 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darz (Post 16645589)
Yup. Outside of Traverse, he might be the worst habs dman I have ever seen.

Obviously my vote is for Christian Laflamme

Agreed. However, my absolute hate for Hoglund made me pick him. Every time he was on the ice, I wanted to die. Not to mention, he came with expectations and sucked.

Dwight 12-04-2008 04:02 PM

Voted for Hoglund.

Where's Karl Dykhuis?

Phil Parent 12-04-2008 04:59 PM

Witehall

Lucius 12-04-2008 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeRo.O (Post 16647188)
Voted for Hoglund.

Where's Karl Dykhuis?

Dykhuis, while no gem, has a few guys in line in front of him.

I'm surprised there is not more support for Racine.

sakiaba 12-05-2008 06:16 AM

Witehall
 
He wore equipment and had a pulse, and I sometimes wondered about the latter.

googlymoogly 12-05-2008 06:39 AM

Seeing that list of players you have to feel for Koivu having to play all those years with those players on the team:shakehead

No wonder there were years he wouldn't get many points.

PernellKarl76 12-05-2008 06:41 AM

Patrick Traverse or Turner Stevenson..... worst hands ive ever seen

Lone Rogue 12-05-2008 06:43 AM

I'll keep voting for Stock until he gets in.

If he doesn't make the Top 10 they should shut this *** board down.

YEMELIN74 12-05-2008 08:27 AM

where is latendresse??? everyone seem to hate this guy right now

beowulf 12-05-2008 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darz (Post 16645589)
Yup. Outside of Traverse, he might be the worst habs dman I have ever seen.

Obviously my vote is for Christian Laflamme

Agreed but I had to for Witehall

Darz 12-05-2008 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natey2k4 (Post 16647111)
Agreed. However, my absolute hate for Hoglund made me pick him. Every time he was on the ice, I wanted to die. Not to mention, he came with expectations and sucked.

Ya, I'll agree with you. Hoglund was pretty F'ing bad. He seemed so disinterested!!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by deesee22 (Post 16660733)
Patrick Traverse or Turner Stevenson..... worst hands ive ever seen

i'll take 10 Turner Stevenson's before 1 Patrick Traverse!!! Turner had some skills. Granted hands of stone, but he had some value as a 3rd/4th liner. Tons of heart. It's just too bad we actually had to play him every now and then as a top six forward. :cry:


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