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I Am Chariot 12-13-2008 11:44 AM

Are the Rangers spooked by all the trade/Mats limbo?
 
I'm thinking that the room is bracing itself for some good byes. Mats or no Mats some of these guys don't finish the season NY Rangers and besides Lundqvist and Staal I dont think anyone is safe.

Last night was ridiculously bad.

BlueShirtsFan86 12-13-2008 11:51 AM

Who can be traded though? The contracts are big on players that I'd say aren't doing well enough for a team to want them, and many of our cheaper players are going to be Free agents.

Zherdev is going to want a raise at the end of the season and he's one of our biggest players, and I'd put Naslund in a bright light too. Looking at our cap, we have alot of dead weight with big contracts and alot of cheap players who are going to want alittle more coin.

Anyone else worried about the cap situation and what I think are untradable heavy weights? As far as I'm concerned, we don't have any trade bait.

TheZherdev 12-13-2008 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bodhisattva (Post 16789811)
I'm thinking that the room is bracing itself for some good byes. Mats or no Mats some of these guys don't finish the season NY Rangers and besides Lundqvist and Staal I dont think anyone is safe.

Last night was ridiculously bad.

No way. Being spooked doesn't make you unmotivated for large chunks of a game. If these guys are scared about their job security, they would be playing their ***** off fighting to show they belong on the team. But then again in Tom Renney's world, playing hard doesn't fit the game plan. See: Petr Prucha.

RinkOnEStreet 12-13-2008 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueShirtsFan86 (Post 16789871)
Who can be traded though? The contracts are big on players that I'd say aren't doing well enough for a team to want them, and many of our cheaper players are going to be Free agents.

Zherdev is going to want a raise at the end of the season and he's one of our biggest players, and I'd put Naslund in a bright light too. Looking at our cap, we have alot of dead weight with big contracts and alot of cheap players who are going to want alittle more coin.

Anyone else worried about the cap situation and what I think are untradable heavy weights? As far as I'm concerned, we don't have any trade bait.

I think we are underestimating Rozsival's value. I know he's been bad, real bad, however the guy will still have value on the trade market. Don't forget that there are guys like Jeff Finger out there making over 3M a year, so Rozie looks like a bargain at 5M. I think we are stuck with Redden but hopefully he can pull his head out of his arse and play some hockey, who knows though.

TheHotRock 12-13-2008 11:55 AM

old plan for 08-09= lose in the cup finals to detroit or san jose in 5 games or less

new plan for 08-09= get tavares



who's with me?

I Am Chariot 12-13-2008 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TheHotRock (Post 16789904)
old plan for 08-09= lose in the cup finals to detroit or san jose in 5 games or less

new plan for 08-09= get tavares



who's with me?

Unless they somehow are getting the Thrashers 1st Im not ready for that .... yet

I Am Chariot 12-13-2008 12:06 PM

The Rangers are chock full of talent.... talent that isnt gelling into a team... If Im a scout Im looking at the Rangers for a deal to upgrade my team

BlueShirtsFan86 12-13-2008 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RinkOnEStreet (Post 16789896)
I think we are underestimating Rozsival's value. I know he's been bad, real bad, however the guy will still have value on the trade market. Don't forget that there are guys like Jeff Finger out there making over 3M a year, so Rozie looks like a bargain at 5M. I think we are stuck with Redden but hopefully he can pull his head out of his arse and play some hockey, who knows though.

I hope your right, but even if we get rid of just him, what are we going to do with signing new players with Gomez, Drury, and Redden having such huge long term contracts? These guys need to wake up, because they aren't worth anything, and I can't imagine a team wanting to restrict themselves with even one of those underserving contracts. They maybe in a slump, but I see mistakes that shouldn't happen on their part to even be considered for that money.

Then we have Zherdev, Dubinsky, Callahan, and Korpikoski with their contracts ending and probably want a raise. Dawes, Betts, Renney's Beloved Orr, Renney's Hated Prucha, and Mara also ending.

With Rozsival gone, Drury, Lundqvist, Gomez, and Redden account for 27,782,143 of the cap alone. I'd say 3 out of the four should be traded, but at the moment, they seem untradeable in my opinion.

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The Rangers are chock full of talent.... talent that isnt gelling into a team... If Im a scout Im looking at the Rangers for a deal to upgrade my team
I hope your right, but it's the big guys I'm worried about. Thats alot to take on and to hope to work out. They don't seem like easy contracts to move.

TheHotRock 12-13-2008 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bodhisattva (Post 16790011)
Unless they somehow are getting the Thrashers 1st Im not ready for that .... yet

i'm not sure i am either, but i feel like only an epic collapse of that nature would get mr sather to really bomb this team.

Glen Teflon Sather 12-13-2008 12:42 PM

No chance the Mats stuff is affecting their play. The entire team is in a funk, and they have to battle out of it.


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