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Knight of the Realm 12-17-2008 06:57 PM

Star UFA's
 
What are UFA's (Superstars) worth? I believe the NHL will be affected by the economy in the next few years. The cap will more than likely have to be lowered sooner than later. More and more teams are appreciating the value of drafting well and building a decent farm system in today's NHL.

My questions are:

Who actually has the ability (pieces and picks), window of opportunity, and the cap room to add a soon to be UFA star player? Will it be a buyers or sellers market?

Do you think teams are still willing to overpay a rental for a chance at the cup or will they be more wary to depart with young talent in the cap age?

What kind of trade package will it take to acquire star players? Are teams willing to give up young roster players, prospects, and draft picks for UFA's? Does salary have to go the other way in order to make a deal for a bonafide star?

What is a reasonable expectation for guys like JBow and Gaborik? Are there any other players who might get considerable attention at the trade deadline who are not getting the spotlight at this time?

SuperAwesomeSeb 12-17-2008 07:11 PM

Henrik Zetterberg is a good star player that is going to be a unrestricted free agent next year, but I don't see Detroit trading him at the deadline.

But I do think the St.Louis Blues might think about trading Keith Tkachuk

Knight of the Realm 12-17-2008 07:14 PM

Z will probably retire a Red Wing, at least he should.

Randall Ritchey 12-17-2008 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sebster03 (Post 16858598)
Henrik Zetterberg is a good star player that is going to be a unrestricted free agent next year, but I don't see Detroit trading him at the deadline.


But I do think the St.Louis Blues might think about trading Keith Tkachuk

I think this is about star players. Star players don't get as streak as Walt

Knight of the Realm 12-17-2008 07:17 PM

I don't think Tkachuk can pull a first anymore...at least he shouldn't!

Yzerplan 12-17-2008 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Knight of the Realm (Post 16858686)
I don't think Tkachuk can pull a first anymore...at least he shouldn't!

Probably still could...I imagine with the upcoming draft being so deep though, it probably doesn't happen.

Todds Chiropractory 12-17-2008 07:19 PM

It really depends on who it is but generally Picks and Blue chip prospects.

State of Hockey 12-17-2008 07:24 PM

I'd say this year is the perfect opportunity for a bottom feeder to turn it around. We have what looks like a deep draft coming up, and very few teams will have the cap space to sign the top free agents like what we might have in Gaborik and Bouwmeester. Maybe this is the perfect year for LA, NYI, or Toronto to make big moves.

Nikita Filatov* 12-17-2008 07:26 PM

Like Hossa superstar? Or like Crosby/Ovechkin superstar?

I think pending UFA superstars are overrated by most on here. Players like Gaborik (if you count him) and Kaberle (next season) likely wont get a player who will be as good...

pb1300 12-17-2008 07:32 PM

The cap is going to go down $2-3 million next season, with the season after next being the big drop. Its going to be interesting to see how teams get themselves ready for a drop. Speaking for the Panthers, they will be over $20 million under the cap next season, and the only main players they need to resign is Booth, and one or both of Boynton and Skrastins.

Knight of the Realm 12-17-2008 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruinsfan1 (Post 16858867)
Like Hossa superstar? Or like Crosby/Ovechkin superstar?

I think pending UFA superstars are overrated by most on here. Players like Gaborik (if you count him) and Kaberle (next season) likely wont get a player who will be as good...

Hossa-ish.

Knight of the Realm 12-17-2008 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Canuckaholic19 (Post 16858742)
It really depends on who it is but generally Picks and Blue chip prospects.

How many teams are in a position to do this for a UFA this year?

rebel diamond 12-17-2008 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pb1300 (Post 16858961)
The cap is going to go down $2-3 million next season, with the season after next being the big drop. Its going to be interesting to see how teams get themselves ready for a drop. Speaking for the Panthers, they will be over $20 million under the cap next season, and the only main players they need to resign is Booth, and one or both of Boynton and Skrastins.

Wait... 2-3 million next year, and then a big drop? There's no way the cap goes down that much that fast, just not happening.

However, I do think it will affect the salaries of resigning UFAs, or at least the term length on new contracts. I'm not sure why the potential of a decreasing cap would affect what an impending UFA is worth at the deadline, because it's generally a rental situation anyways.

Knight of the Realm 12-17-2008 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by rebel diamond (Post 16859109)
Wait... 2-3 million next year, and then a big drop? There's no way the cap goes down that much that fast, just not happening.

However, I do think it will affect the salaries of resigning UFAs, or at least the term length on new contracts. I'm not sure why the potential of a decreasing cap would affect what an impending UFA is worth at the deadline, because it's generally a rental situation anyways.

It's more a situation where building a solid farm team can elleviate future expenditures and create money to actually sign a RFA or UFA instead of trading for one as a rental. Prospects have always been a little over-rated on HFBoards, but will teams be less willing to part with prospects and #1's in order to establish their cupboards more so now than previous eras?

A few teams that are established have less worry about losing some prospects especially if their window of opportunity for winning a cup is getting smaller. How many of those teams have the cap space to take on such players. I guess to make a long story short, how many true buyers will there be this year?

mstad101 12-18-2008 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Knight of the Realm (Post 16859432)
It's more a situation where building a solid farm team can elleviate future expenditures and create money to actually sign a RFA or UFA instead of trading for one as a rental. Prospects have always been a little over-rated on HFBoards, but will teams be less willing to part with prospects and #1's in order to establish their cupboards more so now than previous eras?

A few teams that are established have less worry about losing some prospects especially if their window of opportunity for winning a cup is getting smaller. How many of those teams have the cap space to take on such players. I guess to make a long story short, how many true buyers will there be this year?

with the NW n SE divs being toss ups each and every year
its hard to say actual Buyers n Seller
the canucks for instance right now. would be buyers. come April. well last year is a good example of how seasons can turn.

what i wanna know. is Dallas. should they start looking to next year? maybe even the next? an older club of players. not many young guys coming in. Richards trade ***** Dallas' closet well.

Modano, Zubov, Lethinen, all very tradeable to Buying teams.


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