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toughstuff 03-07-2004 03:13 PM

Perreault - Now or Never
 
I feel Perreault is now playing his best hockey of the year and just in the nic of time.

With the acquisition of Jim Dowd, I think Perreault's days as a HAB are now counted.

I would attempt the following trade:

Ottawa

Sean Hill
Yannick Perreault

Carolina

Marcel Hossa
Ottawa's 1st

HABS

O'Neill

Here is the basis:

Ottawa

Needs more depth at D for the playoff run. They also need a face off specialist such as Perreault for the playoffs. I think there best faceoff man is around 30th to 40th in the league.

Carolina

They have been shoping O'Neill and that is known. I ear they might be looking for Montreal's 1st. That is to valuable and to hefty a price to pay for the HABS but Ottawa, on the other hand could be willing to deal there 1st pick.

HABS

They are looking for a rugged forward. Someone who could score. They do not want to sacrifice anyone of value on the current roster but are willing to sacrifice prospect if the return is right.

What do you think?

officeglen 03-07-2004 03:16 PM

Is this a poll for now or never? I vote never.

Patty Roy 03-07-2004 03:20 PM

So the Habs get O'Neill for Hossa and Perreault? That sounds way too good to be true...won't happen.

Spezza 03-07-2004 03:53 PM

I agree that the value is off a bit.

But, good try and at least you showed some reasoning behind the idea unlike some proposals :)

Garry Valk 03-07-2004 05:06 PM

When you got the best faceoff man in the league, and you're playoff bound, you keep him.

The reason he wasn't scoring before was that he was playing fourth line. He's on the first line now, and he should stay there.

Naoned 03-08-2004 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garry Valk
The reason he wasn't scoring before was that he was playing fourth line. He's on the first line now, and he should stay there.

With Kovalev coming back, Perreault will not stay on the 1st.

Zednik-Koivu-Kovy
Perreault-Ribeiro-Ryder.

If I'm not mistaking, that's the lines Julien played against the 'Yotes

Cat Called Bobcat 03-08-2004 07:45 AM

This is confusing to me. Are you saying the Habs are trading Marcel Hossa or that the Sens are trading Marian Hossa?

Marksman 03-08-2004 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garry Valk
When you got the best faceoff man in the league, and you're playoff bound, you keep him.

The reason he wasn't scoring before was that he was playing fourth line. He's on the first line now, and he should stay there.

Agreed. Isnt that why Devils picked up Hrdina and Blues swapped for Sillinger? Yanic owns those guys in the circle with his 65% efficiency.:)

Canadiens need Perreault for two reasons. Koivu and Juneau are doing little over 50%, Ribeiro Begin and Dowd are under all that. And its nice to have someone able to step in if Koivu/Ribeiro happen to get hurt.

Season Ticket Holder 03-08-2004 09:00 AM

Seems unlikely to me that the Habs would get anything of real value for Perreault, even if he's had a few decent games recently. I have noticed he's picked up his game, it's nice to see, but I don't think it translates into any real value.

Without picking up something for the playoffs, Gainey might as well keep Perreault. If he keeps trying and playing decently, he -can- win some key faceoffs, and he can score a goal or two. He provides a touch of depth and insurance in case guys like Kovalev, Koivu, Ribeiro, etc. are injured, playing poorly, etc. He's just one more option Julien can use, and there's nothing wrong with options in the playoffs.

Plus, Perreault -has- to be fresher than most of the team, having barely played for the last few months, that plus the fact that he's borderline making the team -has- to give him an extra step or two (and he needs all the extra steps he can get).

There's no point trading Perreault for the future right now either, cause I don't see you getting more than a 3rd-4th round pick, and really, is that better than keeping him for the playoffs? Don't really think so.

STH

membleypeg 03-08-2004 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toughstuff
I feel Perreault is now playing his best hockey of the year and just in the nic of time.

With the acquisition of Jim Dowd, I think Perreault's days as a HAB are now counted.

I would attempt the following trade:

Ottawa

Sean Hill
Yannick Perreault

Carolina

Hossa
Ottawa's 1st

HABS

O'Neill

Here is the basis:

Ottawa

Needs more depth at D for the playoff run. They also need a face off specialist such as Perreault for the playoffs. I think there best faceoff man is around 30th to 40th in the league.

Carolina

They have been shoping O'Neill and that is known. I ear they might be looking for Montreal's 1st. That is to valuable and to hefty a price to pay for the HABS but Ottawa, on the other hand could be willing to deal there 1st pick.

HABS

They are looking for a rugged forward. Someone who could score. They do not want to sacrifice anyone of value on the current roster but are willing to sacrifice prospect if the return is right.

What do you think?

Perreault's value = 5th round pick. The Habs will be lucky to unload this floater at the deadline.

#44_delivers 03-08-2004 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by membleypeg
Perreault's value = 5th round pick. The Habs will be lucky to unload this floater at the deadline.

no lucky would be keeping him as our extra forward!

Oiltalk 03-08-2004 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kissmeimasensfan
This is confusing to me. Are you saying the Habs are trading Marcel Hossa or that the Sens are trading Marian Hossa?

Better read over it again. ;)

highstickingyerface 03-08-2004 10:16 AM

Yannic doesn't even take key draws for us anymore. I'd shop him in a heartbeat.. not too anxious to give up on Hossa just yet tho.

With the acquisition of Dowd,and getting Bulis & Kovalev back.. there is no room in our lineup for Yannic.

If we could get a 3rd round pick I'd say go for it.

Colorado or San Jose could use Yannic.

Next Best Thing* 03-08-2004 10:24 AM

Perrault is our top sniper behind Zednik (discounting Kovy), AND (yet again) our best faceoff man. I'm not even talking about a depth player here, this guy needs to play like he's doing now. Right now I wouldn't dare trading him - if it works don't try to fix it.

highstickingyerface 03-08-2004 10:32 AM

Perrault is our top sniper behind Zednik? I don't think so. Ryder is our top sniper. Kovalev has the ability to be the best sniper of them all. Even Dagenais is a better sniper than Yannic. Now is the time to trade him. He can't stay in the top 6 when everyone is healthy and he can't check so therefore he'll be relegated to pressbox duty.

Next Best Thing* 03-08-2004 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by highstickingyerface
Perrault is our top sniper behind Zednik? I don't think so. Ryder is our top sniper. Kovalev has the ability to be the best sniper of them all. Even Dagenais is a better sniper than Yannic. Now is the time to trade him. He can't stay in the top 6 when everyone is healthy and he can't check so therefore he'll be relegated to pressbox duty.

Obviously I meant top sniper as in quality of shot. Perrault can pick out those top corners like the best of 'em.

habsfan9 03-08-2004 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toughstuff
I feel Perreault is now playing his best hockey of the year and just in the nic of time.

With the acquisition of Jim Dowd, I think Perreault's days as a HAB are now counted.

I would attempt the following trade:

Ottawa

Sean Hill
Yannick Perreault

Carolina

Hossa
Ottawa's 1st

HABS

O'Neill

Here is the basis:

Ottawa

Needs more depth at D for the playoff run. They also need a face off specialist such as Perreault for the playoffs. I think there best faceoff man is around 30th to 40th in the league.

Carolina

They have been shoping O'Neill and that is known. I ear they might be looking for Montreal's 1st. That is to valuable and to hefty a price to pay for the HABS but Ottawa, on the other hand could be willing to deal there 1st pick.

HABS

They are looking for a rugged forward. Someone who could score. They do not want to sacrifice anyone of value on the current roster but are willing to sacrifice prospect if the return is right.

What do you think?


listen buddy, that is the stupidest trade ive heard this year...do u honestly think ottwa would ever trade hossa, one of the top 5 players in the nhl, 4 perreaqut and hill????????? are you nuts

ok then how about vancouver trading naslund, colorado trading sakic/forsberg, tampa trading stlouis, and toronto trading sundin....yo think b4 you post a stupid trades lie this 1, it pisses me off :bow:

Drake1588 03-08-2004 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by habsfan9
listen buddy, that is the stupidest trade ive heard this year...do u honestly think ottwa would ever trade hossa, one of the top 5 players in the nhl, 4 perreaqut and hill????????? are you nuts

ok then how about vancouver trading naslund, colorado trading sakic/forsberg, tampa trading stlouis, and toronto trading sundin....yo think b4 you post a stupid trades lie this 1, it pisses me off :bow:

The Hossa to which he was referring may be Montreal's Marcel Hossa. Regardless of the fact this is a flawed proposal, and that O'Neill is presently injured, you might consider trying to make your point in a less inflammatory fashion.

VAN-HAB 03-08-2004 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by habsfan9
listen buddy, that is the stupidest trade ive heard this year...do u honestly think ottwa would ever trade hossa, one of the top 5 players in the nhl, 4 perreaqut and hill????????? are you nuts

ok then how about vancouver trading naslund, colorado trading sakic/forsberg, tampa trading stlouis, and toronto trading sundin....yo think b4 you post a stupid trades lie this 1, it pisses me off :bow:

Marcel not Marian, can you read?

not quite yoda 03-08-2004 05:48 PM

Perreault should not be traded. I reapeat: shoud not be traded.

If he were traded, the return would be about a 4th round pick. That's nothing.

But if Koivu or Ribeiro breaks his leg tonight and is out for the year, Perreault can come in as a very qualified fill in as a top 2 line centre. Even if they stay healthy, he is a valuable asset to have sitting on the bench on a 4th line. He can win faceoffs, play the PP...

His value to MTL right now is far superior than what a 4th rounder should bring in.

toughstuff 03-08-2004 07:05 PM

I have adjusted the original post to clearly indicate that it is Marcel Hossa and not Marian Hossa.

Mooch 03-08-2004 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by espion
Perreault should not be traded. I reapeat: shoud not be traded.

If he were traded, the return would be about a 4th round pick. That's nothing.

But if Koivu or Ribeiro breaks his leg tonight and is out for the year, Perreault can come in as a very qualified fill in as a top 2 line centre. Even if they stay healthy, he is a valuable asset to have sitting on the bench on a 4th line. He can win faceoffs, play the PP...

His value to MTL right now is far superior than what a 4th rounder should bring in.


Hey 4th is better than nothing, isnt it. What round was Ryder drafted in a again?


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