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BBrowser 02-02-2009 11:44 AM

Major cleanup -- we got cheap youth
 
If bob doensn't resign Kovi, Lang, Tanguay, Dandeneault, Bégin, How about the best top4 in the league next year?

Markov (5.750) - Komisarek (5M)
Hamrlik (5.500) - Boowmeester (9M?)
Georges (1M) - O'Byrne (0.725)
Déf.: 26.975M

Price (0.850) Halak (0.800)
Goalies : 1.65M !


D'Agostini (0.875)- Koivu (4M)- Pacioretty (0,875)- Cheap
Andrei K (3.250)- Plekanec (2M)- Sergei K (0.585)- Cheap
Latendresse (1M)- Lapierre (0.850) - Higgins (2M)- Cheap
Stewart (0.5) - Chipchura (o,850)- Kostopoulos (1M)- Cheap
Forwards: 17.785M !!!

Total : 46M ! 10M left, Bob could even go get Gaborik!!!

I hope Bob waits for the summer and cleans house.

OK -- EDIT
I obviously think 9M is way too much for Jay Bo; my point is how much room Gainey has under the cap to rebuild a top team with UFAs if we don't resign current veteran forwards Lang, Bégin, Kovalev, and Tanguay.

Let me do this OBAMA style : Say you wanted CHANGE and re-signed only the young guns and our Defense; what would you do with the insane amount of money that's left under the cap? Without the 9M for Jay Bo I count 19M left and Jay Bo and Gaborik on the market.

Lance 02-02-2009 11:45 AM

I think this deserves a "first post".

9 MILLION?!

RE-HABS 02-02-2009 11:48 AM

Does Bowmeester have naked pictures of Gainey with Carbo for 9 million per???:shakehead

Originalsix 02-02-2009 11:55 AM

Damn, I wouldn't go that high, 9million.

Honestly though, I think JayBo might be heading to his home town and signing locally.

beowulf 02-02-2009 11:56 AM

No way in hell he is worth $9M. Habs would likely not give him more then Markov and as such he will not be signing here.

habdynasty 02-02-2009 11:58 AM

I dont think Koivu is a 4 mil a season player anymore, if he stays he should take a hometown discount kinda like what stevie y did in detroit.

GoodKiwi 02-02-2009 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RE-HABS (Post 17676895)
Does Bowmeester have naked pictures of Gainey with Carbo for 9 million per???:shakehead

At such amount, the pictures would be of Gilette and Gainey. :sarcasm:

MathMan 02-02-2009 12:04 PM

Beyond the insanity of Bouwmeester at 9 million, how about 25 million -- half the cap -- on the top 4?

How are you going to pay any forwards?

Erika 02-02-2009 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by habdynasty (Post 17677045)
I dont think Koivu is a 4 mil a season player anymore, if he stays he should take a hometown discount kinda like what stevie y did in detroit.


If Scott Hartnell, Mike Fisher and Michael Ryder are making 4,25 Millions/year, than Koivu is very well worth at least 4,5


:teach:

The n00b King ©* 02-02-2009 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P1x44r (Post 17677053)
At such amount, the pictures would be of Gilette, Gainey, Carbo, and Youppi. :sarcasm:

Fixed.

flappuck 02-02-2009 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBrowser (Post 17676850)
If bob doensn't resign Kovi, Lang, Tanguay, Dandeneault, Bégin, How about the best top4 in the league next year?

Markov (5.750) - Komisarek (5M)
Hamrlik (5.500) - Boowmeester (9M?)
Georges (1M) - O'Byrne (0.725)
Déf.: 26.975M

Price (0.850) Halak (0.800)
Goalies : 1.65M !

D'Agostini (0.875)- Koivu (4M)- Pacioretty (0,875)- Cheap
Andrei K (3.250)- Plekanec (2M)- Sergei K (0.585)- Cheap
Latendresse (1M)- Lapierre (0.850) - Higgins (2M)- Cheap
Stewart (0.5) - Chipchura (o,850)- Kostopoulos (1M)- Cheap
Forwards: 17.785M !!!

Total : 46M ! 10M left, Bob could even go get Gaborik!!!

I hope Bob waits for the summer and cleans house.

This doesn't work because the youth you're talking about is not going to be paid that cheap for that long so you can't get on the hook for that much salary.
There's more than one season to think about.

Example, at the end of next season, Price is up for a raise.

Le Tricolore 02-02-2009 12:16 PM

9 million? hahaha. I figure, at most, he gets 6.5 million. MAYBE 7.

And that's overpaying.

Talent Analyst 02-02-2009 12:17 PM

IMO, our hole we need to fill for next year is:

Alex Tanguay-****-Andrei Kostitsyn
Higgins-Koivu-D'Agostini
Pacioretty-Plekanek-D'Agostini
Latendresse-Lapierre-Kostopoulos/Laraque

Markov-Komi
Hamrlik-****
Gorges-O'Byrne

Price
Halak

I don't see Kovalev and Lang back.

We need a top 4 defencemen and a first line center.

FrankMTL 02-02-2009 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tout ptit (Post 17677214)
This doesn't work because the youth you're talking about is not going to be paid that cheap for that long.

Example, at the end of next season, Price is up for a raise.
Furthermore, how do you figure Plekanec and Higgins sign for 2M$?



Would you feel good giving Plekanec more than 2 million after the year he's had so far?? I don't think the habs are either. They'll resign him for one year at about 2.5 million..if they can't agree upon a 2 or 3 year deal... Higgins will probably get a little more..but he's been injured and inconsistent, so i don't think he'll get much more than Plekanec.

suprvilce 02-02-2009 12:20 PM

I can honestly see JBo going to Montreal, but they need to be careful with their cap, they'll have to resign Price next year i think.

GoodKiwi 02-02-2009 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrankMTL (Post 17677290)
Would you feel good giving Plekanec more than 2 million after the year he's had so far?? I don't think the habs are either. They'll resign him for one year at about 2.5 million..if they can't agree upon a 2 or 3 year deal... Higgins will probably get a little more..but he's been injured and inconsistent, so i don't think he'll get much more than Plekanec.

That does not matter.

Plekanec will file for arbitration where they will take last two seasons into consideration. He will get his 3.0-3.5.

Rgolt 02-02-2009 12:29 PM

take away 2.5 mill from bouwmeester and give 1.5 mill to higgins and 1mill to pleks

habsrock60 02-02-2009 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talent Analyst (Post 17677274)
IMO, our hole we need to fill for next year is:

Alex Tanguay-****-Andrei Kostitsyn
Higgins-Koivu-D'Agostini
Pacioretty-Plekanek-D'Agostini
Latendresse-Lapierre-Kostopoulos/Laraque

Markov-Komi
Hamrlik-****
Gorges-O'Byrne

Price
Halak

I don't see Kovalev and Lang back.

We need a top 4 defencemen and a first line center.

That, and we may need to clone D'Agostini:sarcasm:

nyhabsfan 02-02-2009 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talent Analyst (Post 17677274)
IMO, our hole we need to fill for next year is:

Alex Tanguay-****-Andrei Kostitsyn
Higgins-Koivu-D'Agostini
Pacioretty-Plekanek-D'Agostini
Latendresse-Lapierre-Kostopoulos/Laraque

Markov-Komi
Hamrlik-****
Gorges-O'Byrne

Price
Halak

I don't see Kovalev and Lang back.

We need a top 4 defencemen and a first line center.

well first you have D'ago on two lines. Secondly, I think we need o get a lot tougher.

I would not bring back Tanquay, Kovy, Lang, Brisebois (please just let marshmellow walk BOB!!!!), Boullion (all heart, no size) or Begin (all heart, no hands).

Monctonscout 02-02-2009 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBrowser (Post 17676850)
If bob doensn't resign Kovi, Lang, Tanguay, Dandeneault, Bégin, How about the best top4 in the league next year?

Markov (5.750) - Komisarek (5M)
Hamrlik (5.500) - Boowmeester (9M?)
Georges (1M) - O'Byrne (0.725)
Déf.: 26.975M

Price (0.850) Halak (0.800)
Goalies : 1.65M !

D'Agostini (0.875)- Koivu (4M)- Pacioretty (0,875)- Cheap
Andrei K (3.250)- Plekanec (2M)- Sergei K (0.585)- Cheap
Latendresse (1M)- Lapierre (0.850) - Higgins (2M)- Cheap
Stewart (0.5) - Chipchura (o,850)- Kostopoulos (1M)- Cheap
Forwards: 17.785M !!!

Total : 46M ! 10M left, Bob could even go get Gaborik!!!

I hope Bob waits for the summer and cleans house.

That's a team that could challenge for a playoff spot...woe mazing GM you are...:laugh:

Analyzer 02-02-2009 12:33 PM

If we have that much left over, then why not keep Tanguay ? The dude is in his prime, has played solid for his this year, just had bad luck, like the rest of the team.

GoodKiwi 02-02-2009 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Analyzer (Post 17677535)
If we have that much left over, then why not keep Tanguay ? The dude is in his prime, has played solid for his this year, just had bad luck, like the rest of the team.

Cause he's soft as butter. He's not a bad option but I'd rather have us go after someone grittier, even if less talented offensively.

FrankMTL 02-02-2009 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P1x44r (Post 17677339)
That does not matter.

Plekanec will file for arbitration where they will take last two seasons into consideration. He will get his 3.0-3.5.

Not sure about that...he had 69 points last year and is on pace for 35 this year. Even in front of an arbitrator he will have his hands full trying to covince him that he's worth 3 or 3.5 million...

Montreal Typical 02-02-2009 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Analyzer (Post 17677535)
If we have that much left over, then why not keep Tanguay ? The dude is in his prime, has played solid for his this year, just had bad luck, like the rest of the team.

Because Tanguay is exactly the kind of player we don't need : a smallish pansy ass dangler.

Habs 4 Life 02-02-2009 12:36 PM

Big names UFA signing in Montreal,ya right....:laugh:


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