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Lucius 02-18-2009 03:14 PM

Begin Complaining About Being Scratched
 
http://www.rds.ca/canadien/chroniques/269460.html

Summary... he has no idea what else he can do to stay in the line-up, wants answers to his questions. No longer knows how to react on the ice when in the lineup, doesn't trust his instincts anymore. Coach won't or hasn't answered his questions. The fact that Stewart made it in the line-up despite just being recalled over him makes the choice tougher to swallow.

Naturally, in true RDS style, this is a very sympathetically posted article. If Kovalev said any of this, the site (which laughably called him "L'Artiste" yesterday) would be holding a protest outside the Bell Centre... but anyway.


P.S. They called Kovalev "L'Artiste" throughout this article: http://www.rds.ca/canadien/chroniques/269386.html but later changed it. As per the internet, there is no longer any proof, so mods, feel free to remove this part if you want, but I read it yesterday *shrug*

Markovskaya 02-18-2009 03:15 PM

Shut up Begin already. Nobody cares. :cry:

Le Tricolore 02-18-2009 03:16 PM

Thank you for your service, Steve. Good luck on whatever team you end up with next season. :)

Jigger77 02-18-2009 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucius (Post 18012319)
http://www.rds.ca/canadien/chroniques/269460.html

Summary... he has no idea what else he can do to stay in the line-up, wants answers to his questions. No longer knows how to react on the ice when in the lineup, doesn't trust his instincts anymore. Coach won't or hasn't answered his questions. The fact that Stewart made it in the line-up despite just being recalled over him makes the choice tougher to swallow.

Naturally, in true RDS style, this is a very sympathetically posted article. If Kovalev said any of this, the site (which laughably called him "L'Artist" yesterday) would be holding a protest outside the Bell Centre... but anyway.


I think it's a little weird too. I like Begin. He's physical and has speed.

habs1988 02-18-2009 03:17 PM

Well, it's pretty clear that Bégin isn't in the plans anymore.

Guy like Stewart can easily replace him. And there are plenty of guys like him in the AHL and NHL.

Watsatheo 02-18-2009 03:17 PM

I can understand his frustration. Maybe he'll get traded, I wouldn't mind not having him in big games. He has a very bad record of taking bad penalties.

MathMan 02-18-2009 03:17 PM

I love his energy, not so much his tendency to bad penalties.

But he is ultimately a fourth-liner and to use him you have to take a fourth-liner energy guy out. And Kostopoulos and Lappy are both better than him, meaning that the spot he wants is Greg Stewart's. And Carbo decided to go with the kid.

It's very unfair, but that's part and parcel of his role.

Erik Estrada 02-18-2009 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucius (Post 18012319)
http://www.rds.ca/canadien/chroniques/269460.html

Summary... he has no idea what else he can do to stay in the line-up, wants answers to his questions. No longer knows how to react on the ice when in the lineup, doesn't trust his instincts anymore. Coach won't or hasn't answered his questions. The fact that Stewart made it in the line-up despite just being recalled over him makes the choice tougher to swallow.

Naturally, in true RDS style, this is a very sympathetically posted article. If Kovalev said any of this, the site (which laughably called him "L'Artiste" yesterday) would be holding a protest outside the Bell Centre... but anyway.


P.S. They called him "L'Artiste" throughout this article: http://www.rds.ca/canadien/chroniques/269386.html but later changed it. As per the internet, there is no longer any proof, so mods, feel free to remove this if you want, but I read it yesterday *shrug*

Yeah why's Bégin out of the lineup while Sergei Kostitsyn's playing!:rant:
Oh wait...:huh:

Stradale 02-18-2009 03:18 PM

Carbo obviously doesnt like Begin at all.

Whitesnake 02-18-2009 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Watsatheo (Post 18012399)
I can understand his frustration.

TOTALLY!

He is a Kostopoulos after all....;)

Agalloch 02-18-2009 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sakukoivu2003 (Post 18012371)
Well, it's pretty clear that Bégin isn't in the plans anymore.

Guy like Stewart can easily replace him. And there are plenty of guys like him in the AHL and NHL.

Stewart will be a full time NHL next year IMO

Le Tricolore 02-18-2009 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stradale (Post 18012421)
Carbo obviously doesnt like Begin at all.

Carbonneau hates French people.

Guy Caballero 02-18-2009 03:20 PM

The life of a fourth liner. I think Begin's head is getting too big living in Montreal. He's easily replaced.

Habs 02-18-2009 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucius (Post 18012319)
Summary... he has no idea what else he can do to stay in the line-up, wants answers to his questions.

Dear Steve,

I suggest getting an old Delorean, and going back in time. Don't go too far back though, maybe stop in the Patrick Poulin era, because he won't crack a single lineup from the 50's - 94.

Leave my mom Lorraine alone, say hi to Biff..
Love,
Habs

Mustafa* 02-18-2009 03:20 PM

So long stid'vagin, you were always one of my favorites (prior to the 2007-2008 season)

waffledave 02-18-2009 03:20 PM

Normally I'd say he's a loser for whining but I'm siding with him. It just adds further proof to the argument that Carbo doesn't know how to talk to anyone. At all.

What a mess. Good lord...Begin is the kind of guy who would die on the ice if he had to.

If a coach loses BEGIN of all people...You know you have a problem.

Lucius 02-18-2009 03:20 PM

Enough to make you miss the days when people glorified the healthy scratches on good teams as true role-models. Remember the 94 Rangers?

Dripper 02-18-2009 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st4ticx (Post 18012439)
Stewart will be a full time NHL next year IMO

I see Kostopoulos-Chipchura-Stewart/Laraque as our 4th line next year. That's means the end of the Dandenault/Begin era.

Habs 4 Life 02-18-2009 03:21 PM

Start drinking Steve!!:sarcasm:

Whitesnake 02-18-2009 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waffledave (Post 18012479)
Normally I'd say he's a loser for whining but I'm siding with him. It just adds further proof to the argument that Carbo doesn't know how to talk to anyone. At all.

What a mess. Good lord...Begin is the kind of guy who would die on the ice if he had to.

If a coach loses BEGIN of all people...You know you have a problem.

Again, I have to agree. We're lucky Carbonneau said that he improved his communication, imagine if he didn't improve...

Booba 02-18-2009 03:22 PM

I think that those injuries slowed him down a lot...

I mean he is always giving a lot of effort, but I recalled him playing with a lot more passion and determination, two or three years ago.

Lucius 02-18-2009 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waffledave (Post 18012479)
Normally I'd say he's a loser for whining but I'm siding with him. It just adds further proof to the argument that Carbo doesn't know how to talk to anyone. At all.

What a mess. Good lord...Begin is the kind of guy who would die on the ice if he had to.

If a coach loses BEGIN of all people...You know you have a problem.

...that's one point I'll give you.

If I was the manager of an office and someone was being sent home early, I'd probably tell them why.

cap10bfl 02-18-2009 03:26 PM

omg who does begin think he is, in any other playoff team he is a 13th or 14th forward and nothing else

a year or 2 ago begin was on fire, hitting everyone and causing penalties, but now he is non existent, doesnt hit, doesnt create energy, gets bad penalties, isnt big, no hockey sense, so what does he bring?

i drather have a big body in stewart who will play his ass off to stay in the nhl, dandenault atleast brings speed and smarts, laraque well ''protects'' other player, and atleast chipchura has hockey smarts, something begin just simply does not have

stop complaining and when you do play, do like kostopoulos and give it your all

onice 02-18-2009 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Le Tricolore (Post 18012454)
Carbonneau hates French people.

Yeah but Steve is not French. He's Canadien or Quebecois if you like.

Chris Cutter 02-18-2009 03:30 PM

If Belak can fetch a 5th round pick, i'm sure BG can trade him for that too.


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