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officeglen 02-22-2009 10:39 AM

Habs mulling a trade for Ryan Smyth
 
Sunday’s Garrbage:

Habs mulling a trade for Ryan Smyth

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bg
Smyth would have to waive his no-trade clause and maintained yesterday he'd like to stay put.
"I've got three years left on my deal, and I really like it here," he said.

Doesn’t sound like a lot to mull over for the Habs.

Thumbnails:

- Tkachuk to Bruins if he waives NMC, but the Bruins don’t want him.
- Oil and Bolts may be interested in Schubert, Sens in Smid.
- Thrashers shopping Hainsey and Havelid.
- Pronger doesn’t want to move, but Bob Murray is shopping him. Devils would rather have Niedermayer. My question: with the race so tight in the West, how can any Western team move anybody good?
- Still talk of Cole to Bruins, but Pens are likely willing to pay the price.
- Sharks and Wings have interest in Neil.
- BJs interested in Kovalev, Pens not yet.
- Wild better sign Backstrom.

Loweded 02-22-2009 10:42 AM

Interesting....
Smid to Ottawa for Spezza :sarcasm:
Cole for Crosby + Malkin :sarcasm:

RE-HABS 02-22-2009 10:43 AM

Smyth I believe turned down a higher contract offer from the Habs in money and years to got to Colorado, so I'm guessing it is a no brainer that he says no.

Garrioch to me is 10 times worse than Eklund.

sgupca 02-22-2009 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RE-HABS (Post 18097127)
Smyth I believe turned down a higher contract offer from the Habs in money and years to got to Colorado, so I'm guessing it is a no brainer that he says no.

Garrioch to me is 10 times worse than Eklund.


He's not 10 times worse, but i'll agree they are both useless reads.

Peter Griffin 02-22-2009 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by officeglen (Post 18097094)
- Pronger doesn’t want to move, but Bob Murray is shopping him. Devils would rather have Niedermayer. My question: with the race so tight in the West, how can any Western team move anybody good?

My guess is that the Ducks will be a good 6+ points back of 8th place at the deadline. They're tied for 8th right now, but Edmonton has 2 games in hand, Minnesota has 4 games in hand and Dallas has 3 games in hand. If the Ducks can't win some games fast I think Murray has to look at all of his options which include trading one of Niedermayer or Pronger.

Habsterix* 02-22-2009 11:00 AM

I'd like to be able to interview Garrioch and ask him straight out how the Avs could trade Smyth without his consent...


As for Smyth in Montreal, I love the player but there is no way in hell he's worth his contract. Keep him Colorado!

GlenngarryGlencross 02-22-2009 11:04 AM

I see Cole's name dropped a lot around here, am I crazy or is he having a really disappointing season? I have a hard time believing Edmonton would get much beyond a mid-rounder and I wonder if he'd really make any of the Eastern contenders better.

dubey 02-22-2009 11:05 AM

Would kind of make sense for Montreal. Smyth has more heart than the entire team.

Moses Doughty 02-22-2009 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DekeShot (Post 18097352)
I see Cole's name dropped a lot around here, am I crazy or is he having a really disappointing season? I have a hard time believing Edmonton would get much beyond a mid-rounder and I wonder if he'd really make any of the Eastern contenders better.

My thoughts. Does he really have that much value right now?

RE-HABS 02-22-2009 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubey (Post 18097362)
Would kind of make sense for Montreal. Smyth has more heart than the entire team.

And all those Stanley Cup Championships to prove it!:sarcasm:

DEVILS ALL THE WAY* 02-22-2009 11:13 AM

Smyth to the Habs isn't gonna happen.... but i do see Anaheim trading either Pronger or Niedermayer to the Devils. The Ducks are playing like crap and are free falling in the standings.

Gimme Pronger over Niedermayer... he can stay with his ***** ass brother if you ask me. Screwing us over in the summer of '05 is still eating me up inside :rant:

s7ark 02-22-2009 11:14 AM

Is this a thread for jsut the Smyth rumour or for the entire Garrioch piece? Cause if it is his whole piece, can you change the topic title to reflect that, please?

The Oilers are interested in trading Smid for Schubert? What a joke. Schubert has been benched for 8 straight games while Smid looks like he's finally turned the corner and is playing fantastic in our top 4 since Grebs and Lubo went down, but we're looking to swap them?

Smid>Schubert and it isn't even close imo.

Mike Jones 02-22-2009 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by officeglen (Post 18097094)

Please Gawd, not another press conference! :cry:

I like Smyth but can't watch another one of those.

highoffglass 02-22-2009 11:20 AM

The habs don't need smyth, he is overrated.

s7ark 02-22-2009 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DekeShot (Post 18097352)
I see Cole's name dropped a lot around here, am I crazy or is he having a really disappointing season? I have a hard time believing Edmonton would get much beyond a mid-rounder and I wonder if he'd really make any of the Eastern contenders better.

Cole has been great after his first 20 games, the points just aren't coming. But he's hitting, checking and drawing a whole whack of penalties with his speed. And 30yo top 6 PF wingers with a cup ring tend to always get a big return on deadline day. I've said it many time and been laughed at by the 1st rounders>Actual NHL contributors crowd on HF, but Cole will bring back a 1st and a prospect. The only way that doesn't happen is if he's traded for roster players to help our playoff push.

1sts are incredibly overrated on HF. Every year there are 30 future all-stars that no one is willing to give up, and two years later they are trade fodder for real players.

DEVILS ALL THE WAY* 02-22-2009 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leafsfanatic16 (Post 18097550)
The habs don't need smyth, he is overrated.

Ryan Smyth is EXACTLY what the Habs need for a SCP run... he has heart, determination and will pay the price no matter what. I'm not too shure about Plekanec, A. Kostitsyn and Kovalev.

waffledave 02-22-2009 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEVILS ALL THE WAY (Post 18097621)
Ryan Smyth is EXACTLY what the Habs need for a SCP run... he has heart, determination and will pay the price no matter what. I'm not too shure about Plekanec, A. Kostitsyn and Kovalev.

A Kost, I'm not worried about, and Kovalev always shows up in the playoffs, but I agree regarding Plekanec.

FlyingKostitsyn 02-22-2009 11:35 AM

Habs simply can't afford this contract. The only large contracts we have that are not set to become free agents would not make sense being moved, so I don't see this happening. Unless we move Hamrlik, but then we'd need another defensemen.

WhiteTrashAmerican 02-22-2009 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s7ark (Post 18097555)
Cole has been great after his first 20 games, the points just aren't coming. But he's hitting, checking and drawing a whole whack of penalties with his speed. And 30yo top 6 PF wingers with a cup ring tend to always get a big return on deadline day. I've said it many time and been laughed at by the 1st rounders>Actual NHL contributors crowd on HF, but Cole will bring back a 1st and a prospect. The only way that doesn't happen is if he's traded for roster players to help our playoff push.

1sts are incredibly overrated on HF. Every year there are 30 future all-stars that no one is willing to give up, and two years later they are trade fodder for real players.

Well said!:handclap:

Habsterix* 02-22-2009 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEVILS ALL THE WAY (Post 18097621)
Ryan Smyth is EXACTLY what the Habs need for a SCP run... he has heart, determination and will pay the price no matter what. I'm not too shure about Plekanec, A. Kostitsyn and Kovalev.

Sorry to disappoint you, but not with that contract. It's in the same category as Redden, Drury, Gomez and Horcoff.

shadow1 02-22-2009 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asterix (Post 18098838)
Sorry to disappoint you, but not with that contract. It's in the same category as Redden, Drury, Gomez and Horcoff.

Except Smyth is actually having a good season.

This rumor is baseless; more garbage from Bruce "Malkin to LA" Garrioch.

tony d 02-22-2009 12:48 PM

Ryan Smyth is the type of player that Montreal needs. He's a leader, he has a lot of grit, he can score 25-30 goals a season.

Still as was said I don't think he'll be leaving Colorado.

NOTENOUGHBREWER 02-22-2009 12:50 PM

Smyth turned down multiple higher priced offers including one from Montreal I believe. The Avs are a mess but the Habs dont exactly seem like cup contenders right now so I dont see much reason for him to want to move. Not to mention what would they give up that the Avs are interested in?

bleedgreen 02-22-2009 12:56 PM

we've come a long way in these days of eklund to start sourcing garrioch with hopes of truths. whats next....larry brooks? to be fair op at least prefaced it by calling it garbage.

smyth is likely going nowhere unless youre doing something that is clearly making the avs better in the end. they arent in real cap trouble with smyth. they will rebuild. a healthy stastny, a better goalie and probably a better second center to replace an aging sakic and the avs are back in the hunt. may be tough to find those things but they arent in a spot to entirely give up. they will move a defensman or two and maybe lappy.

ibeck 02-22-2009 01:01 PM

I certainly hope ryan smyth does not come to MTl.He sucks and is over paid


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