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slime96 02-24-2009 08:28 PM

Stick on a budget: BauerOne50/RBK4K? or Mission Flyweight?
 
I've decided I should finally move onto a fully composite stick. For the past few years I have used one piece wood/abs, mainly due to the cost. I've noticed that the hard, square like shaft is bad on my hands, I have sores at the bottom of each of my index fingers. Also when I have borrowed others composite sticks my shot has significantly improved in speed/accuracy.

I'm in New Zealand so there's not many places to buy equipment nor is there much of a selection at the few stores that are here. A lot of players in my league use high end sticks. I don't know how they pay for them, I think some people are partially sponsored, and other people probably have lovely parents! :laugh: I could never justify spending $500nz on a stick that could break any time.

So, considering that, I've come up with these two choices.

Reebok RBK 4K: http://www.locker.co.nz/productview.php?id=HSR4KRH
http://www.hockeyoutlet.com/images/products/S827.jpg

Nike Bauer Supreme One50: http://www.locker.co.nz/productview.php?id=1027995
http://www.hockeyoutlet.com/images/products/S771.jpg

Any comments on these particular sticks?
Or any advice?

I've used a RBK 4K before and quite liked it.

adaminnj 02-24-2009 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by slime96 (Post 18148693)
I've used a RBK 4K before and quite liked it.

sounds like it's the RBK 4K for you?

you might try to shop around for a store stick but I'm not sure if their are sticks made for stores in NZ.

Like I have a Bauer Sniper which is a one off for some sporting goods chain store, and I have a Sherwood focus that was a one off for a huge warehouse store. They are reasonable sticks and still cheep enough to brake

Son of a gun
here you go.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Sports/Hock...-199717818.htm

Thats funny I bought mine in Canada too :)

500 buckz NZ, seems way high. the MSRP on the 4K is 64.00 bucks US.

Devil Dancer 02-25-2009 12:01 AM

I have both, and they're pretty much interchangeable. I'd go with whichever is cheaper/you are more comfortable with. My only other input is that the Crosby curve on the 4K seems a little extreme to me.

cptjeff 02-25-2009 12:07 AM

$500 NZD is about $250 US, which is more then you pay for most top end sticks. Those are cheap sticks.

Don't buy those locally if that's the price. Get those online-even with the international shipping it should still be much, much cheaper.

Here: Giant ships internationally.
http://hockeygiant.com/rbk084kstksr.html

Edit: nevermind, just reread the post. But Giant will probably still be cheaper then the site you linked.

And $250 US isn't a lot to spend on a high end thing when you have a good job. Hell, people buy T shirts and shoes that cost $100.... Hockey stick is arguably a better investment.

Tinkeric 02-25-2009 12:21 AM

You can also get excellent performance from a composite shaft, which is cheaper than a one-piece and will probably also last longer.

cptjeff 02-25-2009 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Tinkeric (Post 18154307)
You can also get excellent performance from a composite shaft, which is cheaper than a one-piece and will probably also last longer.

Good point. Much cheaper to ship as well. In fact, I personally use an Easton Synergy II shaft with the matching blade. Quite wonderful.

chappie 02-25-2009 01:30 AM

One thing to know about the one50 is that it's not carbon composite, but fiberglass. It's a great stick, but will be heavier then a one90, etc.

Robo-Pope 02-25-2009 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tinkeric (Post 18154307)
You can also get excellent performance from a composite shaft, which is cheaper than a one-piece and will probably also last longer.

Agreed. No love for two-pieces? I've been using the same one for years now, I just have to replace the blades when I break them. Plus, if I ever want to try out a different curve, I don't have to buy an entire new stick.

simnorm 02-25-2009 12:07 PM

if availability and price were a problem, I'd buy a shaft and get blades online for much cheaper.
so that's about 75$us for an entry level OPS, I think I've seen that 4k for around 40-50$ca on closeout

slime96 02-25-2009 10:02 PM

Thanks for all the replies.

I have looked into ordering from overseas, but the shipping + any customs charges usually make it not worth it. Especially with how bad the NZ dollar is right now.

As for two piece composites, there's not a lot available here. Seems like a more logical way to go though, if the performance is similar to that of a one piece?

Does anyone have any experience with "Branches" shafts?
I've found this which looks ok, I'm pretty sure these shafts are really, really round, which I think would be nice.
http://www.sk8.co.nz/Branches-Metall...P2449C530.aspx

Robo-Pope 02-26-2009 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by slime96 (Post 18173908)
As for two piece composites, there's not a lot available here. Seems like a more logical way to go though, if the performance is similar to that of a one piece?

Yes. In fact, a lot of one-pieces these days are actually made in two pieces, they're just sealed together more thoroughly.

Hamilton35 02-26-2009 08:59 PM

Id say neither, both have shown they break frequently (from my work).

Also, dont pay that price. 250 for those? no way.

slime96 03-02-2009 07:23 PM

The price is only about $75 US.

I said $500 referring to the sticks some of my team mates use, (mostly Stealth's). Which I have seen break more often than lower end sticks... :dunno:

slime96 03-24-2009 05:08 PM

I've come across a Mission Flyweight tapered shaft on a local auction site.

I googled for some others thoughts on this shaft and every mention I found rated the stick very highly. Here's one particular in depth review: http://www0.epinions.com/review/Miss...t_139024567940.
There's also a few comments here on hfboards.
I'm really beginning to like the sound of the two piece tapered shafts.

But... that review is from 2004, and most comments are from 2005 with the most recent being late 2006. So, does this sort of devalue these reviews, as the technology has no doubt changed over the last 5 years?

People rated the Flyweight over the Easton Synthesis. But as far as I can tell it looks like the Synergy has taken over the Synthesis?

At the moment the shaft is going for $75US. Does anyone think it's worth that? I will try and talk them down because of how old it is, but would it be even at that price a good deal?

stick9 03-25-2009 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slime96 (Post 18173908)
Thanks for all the replies.

I have looked into ordering from overseas, but the shipping + any customs charges usually make it not worth it. Especially with how bad the NZ dollar is right now.

As for two piece composites, there's not a lot available here. Seems like a more logical way to go though, if the performance is similar to that of a one piece?

Does anyone have any experience with "Branches" shafts?
I've found this which looks ok, I'm pretty sure these shafts are really, really round, which I think would be nice.
http://www.sk8.co.nz/Branches-Metall...P2449C530.aspx

Man I loved the rounded shaft shape! I used an Innovative 1100 for years that was shaped like that. It was sooo comfortable in my hands.

Can't speak for Branches shafts though, never used one.

stick9 03-25-2009 11:40 AM

Quote:

People rated the Flyweight over the Easton Synthesis. But as far as I can tell it looks like the Synergy has taken over the Synthesis?
They are the same thing. The original tapered version of the Synergy was called the Synthesis.

The Flyweight is an excellent shaft. I've heard more than a few people rave about it.

greech 03-25-2009 01:58 PM

Also, finding a top-end stick from a few years ago is better than a cheap newer one. I know it may be hard to find in NZ, but it may be your best choice

Mountain Dew 03-25-2009 02:08 PM

Yeah I agree with the shaft reccomendations here. pretty much any shaft will be higher performing than one of those sticks you listed

190Octane 03-26-2009 01:22 AM

A lot of these two piece sticks that are out there are just repainted sticks. The S15 is just a repainted z-bubble... I'd go with the shaft, more versatile and no real drop in performance.

Nigelbilt 03-26-2009 04:25 AM

Mission makes decent sticks for the money you'll spend. If your worried about budget, check out Mission.

Stefan It Up 03-26-2009 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by greech (Post 18706395)
Also, finding a top-end stick from a few years ago is better than a cheap newer one. I know it may be hard to find in NZ, but it may be your best choice

+1 Agree

slime96 03-26-2009 09:51 PM

Cheers for all the advice.

I've been convinced from all this that a two piece is the way to go.
I'm going to go for this Mission Flyweight, it seems like a good deal (ie: a high end stick from a few years ago).

ModSquad 03-27-2009 01:21 AM

Can't go wrong with the Fly - I owned 8 at one point, down to 6. None of them broken.

If it's a 10-7 Metamorphic and you don't like it, hit me up...


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