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Kritter471 02-28-2009 04:55 PM

Post-game with Anaheim
 
Since that other thing devolved, and I know Lobo and HF will be by with commentary eventually.

I will keep my grumblings about certain punks to myself.

beardedgraf 02-28-2009 04:58 PM

It's such a bad feeling watching this team continue to slip

Alistar 02-28-2009 05:00 PM

the play on the ice is frustrating enough, but the worse thing is nothing will change or even can change..

-Dallas is far to injured to not play some of the struggling players at the moment, and confidence is nearing where it was at the beginning of the season.

-trading for players is tough unless we give up major prospects because we are already over our internal budget and don't have any depth to trade - that being said nothing short of a major deal would really help the team anyways.

-The coach and GM's are perfectly safe because of their recent suspensions combined with the injury excuse.

I just want to see something done to shake up this team :( we still have a chance to make the playoffs but obviously not if this downward trend continues..

KINGS17 02-28-2009 05:02 PM

Well, rumor has it you won't have Pronger and Moen to worry about anymore:

http://www.stanleycupofchowder.com/2...ne-update-w-ja

Alistar 02-28-2009 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KINGS17 (Post 18238555)
Well, rumor has it you won't have Pronger and Moen to worry about anymore:

http://www.stanleycupofchowder.com/2...ne-update-w-ja

First Dallas needs to get their **** togather and get back in a playoff spot, then they can start to worry about what other teams are doing.

Chad_ 02-28-2009 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KINGS17 (Post 18238555)
Well, rumor has it you won't have Pronger and Moen to worry about anymore:

http://www.stanleycupofchowder.com/2...ne-update-w-ja

Worry about Pronger? Is this a joke? I love it when Pronger is on the ice against the Stars because it usually leads to a PP. Of course that only helps when the Stars PP can actually do something.

As for Moen, eh. Who cares?

Kritter471 02-28-2009 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alistar (Post 18238506)
the play on the ice is frustrating enough, but the worse thing is nothing will change or even can change..

-Dallas is far to injured to not play some of the struggling players at the moment, and confidence is nearing where it was at the beginning of the season.

-trading for players is tough unless we give up major prospects because we are already over our internal budget and don't have any depth to trade - that being said nothing short of a major deal would really help the team anyways.

-The coach and GM's are perfectly safe because of their recent suspensions combined with the injury excuse.

I just want to see something done to shake up this team :( we still have a chance to make the playoffs but obviously not if this downward trend continues..

See, I don't want to see a shake-up because I think about 90 percent of the problems are injury-related, and a shake up that involved pieces that would be here next year would shake the foundation for when the injured guys get back.

With these types of injuries, the best thing to do is ride it out and only make minor changes (say... moving Lundqvist would be a minor move, moving Lehtinen not so much). It makes this season a bit of a write off, but when you've got three of your best players sidelined, two good depth players sidelines, other players playing through injury and other best players having missed months at a stretch, you just curse the hockey gods and make the best of it.

KINGS17 02-28-2009 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad_ (Post 18238647)
Worry about Pronger? Is this a joke? I love it when Pronger is on the ice against the Stars because it usually leads to a PP. Of course that only helps when the Stars PP can actually do something.

As for Moen, eh. Who cares?

Meh, I don't care. I'm actually more worried about what they might bring back to the Ducks in a trade. I hope it isn't Kessel.

Chad_ 02-28-2009 05:16 PM

Would you trade Kessel+ for those guys? I wouldn't, and I don't think Chiarelli will either. He's Boston's leading goal scorer. Pronger's acquisition would also leave Boston in a sorry state of a affairs with the cap next season. It seems that trade talk is a bit of a reach to me.

catters078 02-28-2009 06:07 PM

OIl face the wild tonight...so if it is won in regulation by either team one will be in 7th and the other 10th while dallas will be at 9th...as we have games left against the wild, i would rather they win, so we can catch up the pts when we play them.

if it goes to OT then dallas will be 10th...1 pt of 9th an 2pts of 7th an 8th...

looking at the trade deadline and even for next year dallas needs a back up badly...

in march we have 3 sets of back to back (16 games in totol), what ever playoff chances we have (shrinking by the day) will be slaughtered if Turco plays all games in March..

please go after clemmensen he would be the perfect addition...or god put a claim in for legace

catters078 02-28-2009 06:16 PM

Tippett quote

We're in a playoff battle," Dallas coach Dave Tippett said. "I don't care who's playing. They need to get the job done. We've got some weak links."

Maybe someone is finally onto Sydor??

piqued 02-28-2009 06:25 PM

Apparently Ott got the match penalty for eye-gouging.

Who knew that was frowned upon?

DaStars99 02-28-2009 06:29 PM

I think I am glad I missed this game, I would be a lot more angry if I watched. At least my college basketball team won :dunno:

I am starting to lose a little hope with this team this year, luckily we play early tomorrow so we don't have to sit on this loss for a while. As always Go Stars!!!

Kritter471 02-28-2009 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piqued1457 (Post 18240458)
Apparently Ott got the match penalty for eye-gouging.

Who knew that was frowned upon?

I thought he got it for fighting with the cast. Last time he dropped the gloves (against the Wings), I seem to remember him not dropping he gloves at all, or at the very least not throwing punches.

This is what Heika has:
"Steve Ott received a match penalty for that final fight.

A match penalty is usually given for intent to injure and is automatically reviewed, so there is a very good chance that Ott is suspended for Sunday's game.

Ott gouged Travis Moen in the eye during the fight, but Ott said it was an accident."

I'm not too sure the two are connected (the match and the eye gouge).

txdude5101 02-28-2009 07:05 PM

The reason for the Match was he was wearing a brace I am pretty sure.
Or it could be the eye gouge either way ott doesnt need to be suspended

Hull Fan 02-28-2009 07:15 PM

I posted most of my thoughts in the fire Tippet thread but jesus can someone please tell me the thought process of line combinations by Tippet.

Lundqvist can't be shipped out soon enough. He makes me long for the offensive skill of Antti Miettinen.

Brunnstrom is struggling. He hasn't played well but other than like four exceptions neither has anyone else. He needs a boost of confidence. Something to make him feel good about himself and his play. Instead you bench him. Tippet's given plenty of tough love, maybe he should just try love. That and give the kid the opportunity with Ribs and Lehts should Ott be suspended. At this point can it hurt?

Did Sydor shoot the puck at Marty again?

Was Bobby Ryan the Edmonton first round pick acquired in the Penner disaster? Can someone go punch Lowe in the junk for me? Thanks.

I pray for a day when Niskanen is able to play with a real defense partner. He may finally be able to show he's a pretty good hockey player in his own right.

Poor Daley just couldn't get out of his own way. I've had days, hell weeks like that. It almost got funny at one point but why was the guy who clocked Eriksson not given a penalty for hitting Eriksson in the back of the head with his elbow? That has to be a penalty too.

Kritter471 02-28-2009 07:21 PM

Ryan was the second pick from the Crosby draft.

Yes, Sydor did. Yes, Daley was. And Niskanen wasn't helping his own cause today either, particularly on the PK.

I'd rather see Eriksson up on the top line than Brunnstrom. I'd try Neal-Modano-Brunnstrom again to try and recapture the early-season magic, should Ott get suspended.

Hull Fan 02-28-2009 07:31 PM

Kritter I'd be fine with either combination. All I'm saying is Brunnstrom is struggling. There are only two real options right now. Play him and hope he gets through it or bench him, but how is he going to improve sitting on the bench watching others make the same mistakes he does without consequence.

Oh and other than the Perry goal which was bad all around, Fistric had a nice game. He's doing what he can to show that spot is his. Good for him.

Hull Fan 02-28-2009 07:35 PM

I knew Ryan was after Crosby I just wondered if that pick was orginally Edmonton's that went to Anaheim after the Penner offer sheet. Otherwise how did Anaheim draft second? I don't remember them being one of the worst teams in the league in 2004-05.

****

I looked it up. No the pick wasn't from the Penner deal. This was Anaheim's own pick. So were they that bad before the lockout? I don't remember this. Anyway boo Anaheim because I do not want to see this kid six games a year for the next half decade.

Kritter471 02-28-2009 07:51 PM

They weren't that bad. That was the year the entire draft was on a lottery system because of the loss of the lockout year. Anaheim was pretty good and two years removed from the Cup finals, but they ended up with the No. 2 pick while the Stars were mediocre and ended up with the No. 28 pick.

Hull Fan 02-28-2009 08:27 PM

I vaguely recall that was the year they refused to give Washington the first overall pick two years in a row. Didn't they end up with one of the last picks? It was just awful logic that created a screwed up scenario.

Kritter471 02-28-2009 08:29 PM

I don't remember Washington's scenario in particular, but I remember that it was a weighted lottery based on success the past five years or so.

I also remember the Red Wings got a better-than-average pick. I hated that draft.

Hull Fan 02-28-2009 08:43 PM

If Otter gets the boot is it time to waive the towel? Something between 3-5 games is what I'm expecting because of this whole eye gouge thing.

DaStars99 02-28-2009 08:47 PM

I think it still depends on the outcome of tomorrow's game. I hope we don't sell when or lose but I would be a whole lot less upset if we lose tomorrow and tuesday. I still think this team can make some noise. We just need to get healthy. It will be a whole lot clearer whether we can make the playoffs or not in the next two games. If we don't do well that would be three loses against teams not in the playoffs. That doesn't bode well

vofty 02-28-2009 08:54 PM

Ott suspended pending review...and it continues...

http://starsblog.dallasnews.com/arch...suspended.html


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