HFBoards

HFBoards (http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/index.php)
-   Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk (http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/forumdisplay.php?f=3)
-   -   Proposal: Pahlsson to Chicago (http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=614515)

sammyp 03-02-2009 12:13 AM

Pahlsson to Chicago
 
To Chicago:
Sammy Pahlsson

To Anaheim:
James Wisniewski

Good match or no?

Pyke* 03-02-2009 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammyp (Post 18273894)
To Chicago:
Sammy Pahlsson

To Anaheim:
James Wisniewski

Good match or no?

Living in the East, I sometimes am stupid when it comes to players in the West, but isn't Wisniewski a career 5th-6th defenceman?

Pahlsson, for all that I hate him for beating the Sens in the finals, is an elite defensive forward...I personally would think that since Anaheim has no incentive to trade him, and this is clearly a Chicago driven deal; that Chicago would need to hand over some prospects to make it happen.

Just a guess though.

sammyp 03-02-2009 12:20 AM

I, for one, like Wisniewski. I might be overestimating his trade value though. Pahlsson is a UFA at season's end and he has been battling a virus for the past 3 weeks or so.

HockeyThoughts 03-02-2009 12:27 AM

FYI, Pahlsson is UFA(1.4M) while Wisniewski is on LTIR(.900M).

I think it would take a tad bit more for Pahlsson, maybe a pick added as well.

massivegoonery 03-02-2009 12:34 AM

Wiz isn't on LTIR, he came back a while ago and has been playing on Chicago's top PP unit.

I don't think the value is that far off but Wiz is something of a fan favorite here.

Bank Shot 03-02-2009 12:48 AM

I don't think Pahlsson would cost all that much to aquire. He's a UFA with Mono. And his line is getting clobbered this year.

Ducksforcup 03-02-2009 12:50 AM

Value is pretty fair. I love Sami (God), but he hasn't been as effective as he was during the cup run. He is still a great defensive player though.

In other words, I wouldn't be too disapointed if this trade happened.

heusy_79 03-02-2009 02:48 AM

Would Chicago consider a Skille+low pick (3rd or later) for Pahlsson swap?

sammyp 03-02-2009 04:11 PM

I doubt Chicago would want to deal Skille for a rental of Pahlsson, but maybe that's just me.

sammyp 03-02-2009 04:13 PM

Skille and Barker or Wisniewski available
 
Wow, didn't see this. Certainly makes things a little more interesting.


http://blogs.dailyherald.com/blog/675

Quote:

When Jack Skille was recalled from Rockford on Friday the timing was curious. At least one source said Skille is a player being offered around the league by the Hawks in hopes of landing a center and defenseman before Wednesday's trade deadline.
It's believed the Hawks were talking to the Ducks about Chris Kunitz before Kunitz was traded to Pittsburgh on Thursday for defenseman Ryan Whitney. The Hawks offered Anaheim a defenseman that wasn't Duncan Keith, Brent Seabrook or Brian Campbell.
It's possible the Hawks would consider moving James Wisniewski or Cam Barker in the right deal.
Anaheim center Sami Pahlsson and Tampa Bay center Jeff Halpern still are two players who might interest the Hawks. The problem with Pahlsson is he has been sidelined with mono.

Hawksfan12* 03-02-2009 04:23 PM

what about Sopel+Skille/wiz for pahlson

sammyp 03-02-2009 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawksfan12 (Post 18285509)
what about Sopel+Skille/wiz for pahlson

Chicago is stuck with Sopel. Big fat NO from the Ducks.

HawksTillDeath 03-02-2009 04:31 PM

you think some ducks fan can give a scouting report of Pahlsson please


just want to know where he stands..

ktulu98 03-02-2009 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammyp (Post 18273894)
To Chicago:
Sammy Pahlsson

To Anaheim:
James Wisniewski

Good match or no?

:shakehead

trade one of the best defensive forward in league for 4-6 Dman
yeah we should do that

'sarcasm'

Hawksfan12* 03-02-2009 04:53 PM

Well your certainly not getting barker

sammyp 03-02-2009 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ktulu98 (Post 18286229)
:shakehead

trade one of the best defensive forward in league for 4-6 Dman
yeah we should do that

'sarcasm'

It's hard to move Pahlsson but the fact is that he's a UFA at season's end. The checking line hasn't been shutting down top lines like they have been able to do so well in year's past. The Ducks are pretty well stocked with defensive minded forwards (Carter, Marchant, Moen, Nieds, Wirtanen come to mind) and we need some quality back on the blueline (especially if Pronger and/or Niedermayer are moved). Wiz is solid and cheap.

Paul4587 03-02-2009 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawksTillDeath (Post 18285725)
you think some ducks fan can give a scouting report of Pahlsson please


just want to know where he stands..

In the 06-07 year he was the best defensive foward in the league, despite not winning the selke. Without him the Ducks don't win a cup that year. Pahlsson's great at faceoffs, strong as an ox, a great penalty killer and is capable of shutting down almost any player in the NHL. Offensively he is pretty limited but has shown he can be effective in a PP role in front of the net, and he tends to produce at a higher rate in the playoffs.

ktulu98 03-02-2009 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammyp (Post 18286369)
It's hard to move Pahlsson but the fact is that he's a UFA at season's end. The checking line hasn't been shutting down top lines like they have been able to do so well in year's past. The Ducks are pretty well stocked with defensive minded forwards (Carter, Marchant, Moen, Nieds, Wirtanen come to mind) and we need some quality back on the blueline (especially if Pronger and/or Niedermayer are moved). Wiz is solid and cheap.

so you would rather keep marchant and rob niedermayer over pahlsson?
:shakehead

you like wish too much

Hawksfan2828 03-02-2009 05:23 PM

The best possible move the Hawks could make right now thats realistic is Tkachuk. However rumor has it the Blues are actually buyers at the deadline. If I'm the Blues I would surly start trading away aging vets for young talent.

Sure St Louis has a slim shot at taking the 8th spot but even then its slim and then they will have to face San Jose in the 1st round.

They should really deal Tkachuk to the Hawks lol.

sammyp 03-02-2009 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ktulu98 (Post 18286846)
so you would rather keep marchant and rob niedermayer over pahlsson?
:shakehead

you like wish too much

That's the thing -- Pahlsson has MUCH more trade value than Marchant and Niedermayer. Marchant and Niedermayer most likely wouldn't be able to fetch much in a trade, whereas Pahlsson could bring back a valuable piece.

ktulu98 03-02-2009 05:36 PM

you are talking about Wisniewski, like he is #2 Dman

god help us if we make this trade

Vipers31 03-02-2009 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ktulu98 (Post 18286229)
:shakehead

trade one of the best defensive forward in league for 4-6 Dman
yeah we should do that

'sarcasm'

Being a Ducks fan, I think the value is there. Pahlsson is great, but defensive forwards usually don't fetch their real value. And Wisniewski is kinda underrated because of the great guys Chicago has on their defense. I think he'd be a good fit with the Ducks. It's not an easy choice because I think there is a chance we can resign Sammy if we keep him, but this offer really isn't bad.

HawksTillDeath 03-02-2009 05:41 PM

wiz is a very good defenseman... to the point that i would be very saddened if he gets traded.. hes a great locker room guy.. good shot from the point.. skates very well.. sticks up for his teammates


finished a fight with jordan tootoo with a torn acl..

i would want to trade him for pahlsson

i would much rather trade buff for pahlsson

Hawksfan2828 03-02-2009 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ktulu98 (Post 18287304)
you are talking about Wisniewski, like he is #2 Dman

god help us if we make this trade

Wiz is a good player..

I wouldnt trade him for Pahlsson straight up.

Hes a fringe top 4 and is a top 4 on bad clubs...

Hes a fantastic situational player..

Crazy_Ike 03-02-2009 06:13 PM

The Hawks really need Wiz's bit of mean streak. There's a lot of softies on the Hawks and they really shouldn't move any more of them.

Wouldn't mind getting Pahlsson though.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:40 PM.

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com, A property of CraveOnline, a division of AtomicOnline LLC ©2009 CraveOnline Media, LLC. All Rights Reserved.