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Jonathan. 03-04-2009 07:56 PM

[EDM/CAR/LA/BUF] 4-way trade (details inside)
 
To EDM:

Patrick O'Sullivan
Ales Kotalik

To CAR:

Erik Cole
EDM 2009 5th round pick

To LAK:

Justin Williams

To BUF:

LAK 2009 2nd round pick

Discuss

smackdaddy 03-04-2009 07:58 PM

Erik Cole worth more than previously thought.

Say it ain't so.

Excellent trades.

GKJ 03-04-2009 07:58 PM

[LA/CAR/EDM] O'Sullivan to EDM + 2nd, CAR gets Erik Cole +2d, LA gets Justin Williams
 
Just picking up the pieces here, feel free to comment.

Mattias 03-04-2009 07:59 PM

Strange move by kings to include a Second rounder with this deal. Another Oft-injured player heads to LA.

O Sullivan will work out good in Edmonton.
Cole Back with Stall, nice for them too.

cyril 03-04-2009 07:59 PM

Oh, and I'm hoping Hemsky and Kotalik can have some on-ice chemistry.

ColeMPV 03-04-2009 07:59 PM

I like this trade because everyone gets something nice. LA gets even more for their future(If Willy comes back next near they will be a force) Edmonton gets a good young player and a decent forward, while Carolina gets help now to make the playoffs.

heatley_fan* 03-04-2009 07:59 PM

What an unbelievable steal for the Oilers. Wow.

cyril 03-04-2009 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan. (Post 18344820)
To EDM:

Patrick O'Sullivan
Ales Kotalik

To CAR:

Erik Cole
EDM 2009 5th round pick

To LAK:

Justin Williams

To BUF:

LAK 2009 2nd round pick

Discuss

I believe it's the CAR 2nd pick that came to EDM and then went to BUF. It was reported by radio in Edmonton.

Lustaf 03-04-2009 08:00 PM

I think its pretty impressive from an Edmonton stand point. You take the under achieving Cole and turn him into O'Sullivan and Kotalik. I don't think many people here would have thought that was possible.

As for Carolina, yuck. I'm fine with trading Williams for O'Sullivan and the 2nd rounder but then trading that to Edmonton!? Terrible decision, even if it's meant to help Staal produce.

CASUAL KEV 03-04-2009 08:00 PM

How has O'Sullivan been this year?

Salo 35 03-04-2009 08:01 PM

Great deal by the Oilers :D

Jesus 03-04-2009 08:01 PM

This could be homer talk but I think the Oilers got excellent value for a soon-to-be UFA Cole.

The Last Dynasty 03-04-2009 08:02 PM

excellent moves...Kotalik and Cole for both UFAs so that a wash...plus O'Sullivan is younger, cheaper and more potential than Cole at this point

Jonathan. 03-04-2009 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CanuKer (Post 18345041)
How has O'Sullivan been this year?

Mediocre from what I've seen. And I think he'll always be overrated and mediocre. Should be a decent 2nd line extremely one way (offense) player, but never the first line player a lot of people thought/think he could/can be.

SiCKNESS 03-04-2009 08:05 PM

Patty OS will do well in Edmonton

Giggli G 03-04-2009 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan. (Post 18345167)
Mediocre from what I've seen. And I think he'll always be overrated and mediocre. Should be a decent 2nd line extremely one way (offense) player, but never the first line player a lot of people thought/think he could/can be.

He plays the PK and was voted 'best defensive player' by his team last year.

FromDubiToZherdev* 03-04-2009 08:06 PM

I am still appalled by DL's complete ignorance in trading O'SULLIVAN for JUSTIN WILLIAMS. Utterly disgusting.

WJG 03-04-2009 08:06 PM

Wow, Erik Cole is worth O'Sullivan AND a 2nd?

Kotalik has more points than Cole too.

Bandit 03-04-2009 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CanuKer (Post 18345041)
How has O'Sullivan been this year?

The kid has skills, but he has been frustrating this season. The one thing that you will notice right away is his propensity to shoot the puck from everywhere, and I mean EVERYWHERE. Just over the blueline? Shoot. In the corner with three guys between him & the net? Shoot. On the goal line at the wall? Shoot. Behind the net? Yup, SHOOT. He's quite the puck hog at the moment. Not to mention that unfortunately, a lot of those shots get blocked.

He is still young and I'm sure he can be molded to make better choices. All in all, the oilers are getting a good young player.

Rimers stache 03-04-2009 08:07 PM

wow LA gets fleeced

Trottier 03-04-2009 08:10 PM

Have not read this thread, but let me guess that some will "award" this deal to Edmonton simply because O'Sullivan is...young(er)!

I don't.

If - big if - Williams stays healthy, LA is going to be mighty happy.

Like the deal for Carolina a lot. Cole never should have left the Canes, and as much as he did not fit in Edmonton, he fits like a glove alongside Staal in Carolina.

And, yes, the deal makes total sense for Edmonton, especially since Cole was just not working out and is an impending free agent.

Good to see creative GMs can still wheel and deal creatively in this cap era.

MN14 03-04-2009 08:10 PM

Pretty much what he said.

In the past, he seemed to show more tenacity, awareness, and attention to defense, but that's faded a bit. Never really developed chemistry with any other forwards, it seems. The change of scenery should do him well--he's got lots of potential, but it wasn't happening here.

Giggli G 03-04-2009 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bandit (Post 18345372)
The kid has skills, but he has been frustrating this season. The one thing that you will notice right away is his propensity to shoot the puck from everywhere, and I mean EVERYWHERE. Just over the blueline? Shoot. In the corner with three guys between him & the net? Shoot. On the goal line at the wall? Shoot. Behind the net? Yup, SHOOT. He's quite the puck hog at the moment. Not to mention that unfortunately, a lot of those shots get blocked.

He is still young and I'm sure he can be molded to make better choices. All in all, the oilers are getting a good young player.

He sounds pretty good from an Oilers point of view. If you look at our roster, we barely have a single shoot-first player. All pass-first.

MN14 03-04-2009 08:11 PM

...what? Do you mean for the late 2nd rounder or what?

visor wearing goon 03-04-2009 08:11 PM

Carolina actually got Calgary's 2nd rounder, plus a 5th from Edmonton.


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