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sa cyred 03-05-2009 04:44 PM

09/10 Flyers Predictions
 
Well after the current trade, I started to think of what we might be doing next year. I know there are tons of things that could happen during that time, such as signing the rest of our guys, the draft, and free agency. Just wanted to know what other people thought was going to happen. You do you think we will trade. We are still close to the cap, so what do we do? Who will make a fight for a spot on the big team. Should be trade for more picks during this draft? Who would you pick with our #1, if Homer really keeps it :sarcasm:. Just wanted to get people out of the damn Upshall thread and try getting something else going.


EDIT: This is just for ones opinions.. take it either way.. us losing in the first round of playoffs or winning the stanely cup. Was just wondering what people thought was going to happen....damn

forzanerazzurri 03-05-2009 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sa cyred (Post 18365178)
Well after the current trade, I started to think of what we might be doing next year. I know there are tons of things that could happen during that time, such as signing the rest of our guys, the draft, and free agency. Just wanted to know what other people thought was going to happen. You do you think we will trade. We are still close to the cap, so what do we do? Who will make a fight for a spot on the big team. Should be trade for more picks during this draft? Who would you pick with our #1, if Homer really keeps it :sarcasm:. Just wanted to get people out of the damn Upshall thread and try getting something else going.

Well probably trade Carcillo for a 3rd rounder.

shamski7 03-05-2009 04:57 PM

we're getting down to the end of the regular season and positioning for the playoffs this year and you're worried about next year??

please dont tell me your serious. this team is poised to make a serious run to come out of the east, dont worry about next year just yet.

sa cyred 03-05-2009 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shamski7 (Post 18365440)
we're getting down to the end of the regular season and positioning for the playoffs this year and you're worried about next year??

please dont tell me your serious. this team is poised to make a serious run to come out of the east, dont worry about next year just yet.

Hey man, I just wanted to talk about something. Not really worried. Alot of the other team's boards have this thread, and its just to discuss what you think might happen... This is a board to discuss the Flyers.. some people around here gotta relax

ChumpyG 03-05-2009 05:00 PM

Carcillo + 4th rounder to Phoenix for Upshall?? :sarcasm:

Mike Richards 18 03-05-2009 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChumpyG (Post 18365522)
Carcillo + 4th rounder to Phoenix for Upshall?? :sarcasm:

im totally down. maybe Upshall will want to come back so bad he wont take much of a raise.

forzanerazzurri 03-05-2009 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Richards 18 (Post 18365602)
im totally down. maybe Upshall will want to come back so bad he wont take much of a raise.

SO that would be a 2nd and a 4th for....... air?

Miss Mess 03-05-2009 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sa cyred (Post 18365178)

EDIT: This is just for ones opinions.. take it either way.. us losing in the first round of playoffs or winning the stanely cup. Was just wondering what people thought was going to happen....damn

:amazed: scottie's hair!!!

Juicy Couturier* 03-05-2009 05:30 PM

I'll run with it sa cyred!

So much for trying to get over the Upshall trade.

This is just my opinion of things that will happen so please dont jump all over me saying how wrong I am.

Major moves and signings...
Lupul gets traded. (maybe in a package for a goalie?)
Knuble gets signed to a 2 year deal(around 2.25 a year)
JVR makes the team. I hear he will make something like 2.5M? Maybe Im wrong?
Sbisa makes the team.
Jones goes nowhere.
Biron and Nitty are both let go.

Gagne-Richards-Knuble = $13.25M
Hartnell-Carter-Giroux = $10.022M
Carcillo-Briere-JVR = $9.894M(assuming JVR makes 2.5M)
Powe- ? -Asham = $1.895M(assuming Center makes 750K)

Timonen-Parent = $7.188M
Coburn-Carle = $4.738M
Jones-Sbisa = $3.625M


Forwards- $35.149M
Defense- $15.511M
Total- $50.66M

That leaves 6 million a starting goalie, a backup, a 7th dman and an extra forward. Yuck.

I could be way off lol.

forzanerazzurri 03-05-2009 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CannonGoBoom (Post 18365865)
I'll run with it sa cyred!

So much for trying to get over the Upshall trade.

This is just my opinion of things that will happen so please dont jump all over me saying how wrong I am.

Major moves and signings...
Lupul gets traded. (maybe in a package for a goalie?)
Knuble gets signed to a 2 year deal(around 2.25 a year)
JVR makes the team. I hear he will make something like 2.5M? Maybe Im wrong?
Sbisa makes the team.
Jones goes nowhere.
Biron and Nitty are both let go.

Gagne-Richards-Knuble = $13.25M
Hartnell-Carter-Giroux = $10.022M
Carcillo-Briere-JVR = $9.894M(assuming JVR makes 2.5M)
Powe- ? -Asham = $1.895M(assuming Center makes 750K)

Timonen-Parent = $7.188M
Coburn-Carle = $4.738M
Jones-Sbisa = $3.625M


Forwards- $25.168M
Defense- $15.511M
Total- $40.179M

That leaves enough room to sign a starting goalie, a backup, a 7th dman and an extra forward or 2.

I could be way off lol.

Is it me or that team much worse than the team we saw 2 days ago?

mercury 03-05-2009 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by forzanerazzurri (Post 18365906)
Is it me or that team much worse than the team we saw 2 days ago?

It all depends on the starting goalie. It could be markedly better.

Juicy Couturier* 03-05-2009 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by forzanerazzurri (Post 18365906)
Is it me or that team much worse than the team we saw 2 days ago?

Well the top 2 lines and top 2 pairings are almost exactly the same(giroux next year should be as good or better than lupul has been this year). The 3rd line is finally a big 3rd line, which a 3rd line should be, aside from briere. And that line can score more than the one we have this year. If we use the significant cap space to get a good goalie we're clearly better.

Giroux is a year better.
Sbisa is a year older and better and wont be a deer in headlights.
JVR is as good or better than Giroux has been in his rookie year.
Parent is a year better(that top pairing could be sick)

sa cyred 03-05-2009 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CannonGoBoom (Post 18366449)
Well the top 2 lines and top 2 pairings are almost exactly the same(giroux next year should be as good or better than lupul has been this year). The 3rd line is finally a big 3rd line, which a 3rd line should be, aside from briere. And that line can score more than the one we have this year. If we use the significant cap space to get a good goalie we're clearly better.

Giroux is a year better.
Sbisa is a year older and better and wont be a deer in headlights.
JVR is as good or better than Giroux has been in his rookie year.
Parent is a year better(that top pairing could be sick)

That one is still up for jury :dunno: I personally see him starting in the AHL next year

But thanks for posting though. Someone the Upshall thing came into this thread too lol

Dig Out Your Soul 03-05-2009 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CannonGoBoom (Post 18365865)
I'll run with it sa cyred!

So much for trying to get over the Upshall trade.

This is just my opinion of things that will happen so please dont jump all over me saying how wrong I am.

Major moves and signings...
Lupul gets traded. (maybe in a package for a goalie?)
Knuble gets signed to a 2 year deal(around 2.25 a year)
JVR makes the team. I hear he will make something like 2.5M? Maybe Im wrong?
Sbisa makes the team.
Jones goes nowhere.
Biron and Nitty are both let go.

Gagne-Richards-Knuble = $13.25M
Hartnell-Carter-Giroux = $10.022M
Carcillo-Briere-JVR = $9.894M(assuming JVR makes 2.5M)
Powe- ? -Asham = $1.895M(assuming Center makes 750K)

Timonen-Parent = $7.188M
Coburn-Carle = $4.738M
Jones-Sbisa = $3.625M


Forwards- $25.168M
Defense- $15.511M
Total- $40.179M

That leaves enough room to sign a starting goalie, a backup, a 7th dman and an extra forward or 2.

I could be way off lol.

Appreciate the effort, but you added your forwards up wrong. Add about $10M. So that leaves you about $6M (if the cap stagnates) to sign 2 goalies and extra skaters.

JagerPuck 03-05-2009 06:54 PM

Too early.
Wayyyy too ******* early.

Juicy Couturier* 03-05-2009 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sa cyred (Post 18366613)
That one is still up for jury :dunno: I personally see him starting in the AHL next year

But thanks for posting though. Someone the Upshall thing came into this thread too lol

I meant to say he should be as good, sorry about that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dig Out Your Soul (Post 18366887)
Appreciate the effort, but you added your forwards up wrong. Add about $10M. So that leaves you about $6M (if the cap stagnates) to sign 2 goalies and extra skaters.

Yup, I forgot to put one of the lines in there. I knew I would screw it up lol.

TheDrizzle81 03-05-2009 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JagerPuck (Post 18367012)
Too early.
Wayyyy too ******* early.

Hey Mr Greedy Puck Hog! I wanted that ENG bad lol.

I agree though its too early to think about 09-10

sa cyred 03-05-2009 07:20 PM

Haters.. go back to the Upshall thread :sarcasm:
Only reason I did this was cause I saw 10 other teams do it... Just dont respond lol

GKJ 03-05-2009 11:00 PM

For a goalie, what I'd like them to do is scout Europe and see if we can't find someone like Antti Niemi like the Blackhawks got, or even a different version of Nicklas Backstrom, although he was too old for an ELC. Anyways, it is a cheap, but viable option.

mm6492 03-06-2009 12:08 AM

We need to solve teh goalie situation. We have a great young core with a few solid veterans

But we can not keep going with a 2-goalie merry-go-round

chimrichalds18 03-06-2009 01:02 AM

can someone explain to me the cap/salary situation for jvr when he turns pro? i'm too lazy to look it up.

BringBackStevens 03-06-2009 09:16 AM

Wonder how far Sunshine is from coming across and at least playing for our AHL affiliate

captainpaxil 03-08-2009 02:58 PM

flyers draft centers and goalies. as for the guys n the roster they dance with the girl that brung em. i think its the opposite of tradition where we are building from the front back. last year forwards. this year defense next year goalies.

GoneFullHextall 03-08-2009 03:19 PM

Joffrey Lupul is traded at the draft for Josh Harding
Knuble signs elsewhere
JVR is signed and makes the team.
Sbisa makes the team
Alberts is resigned(it wouldnt be Holmer if he didnt make one questionable at best re-signing)
Veteran backup is signed for cheap money(Kolzig?)

GKJ 03-08-2009 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mm6492 (Post 18376820)
We need to solve teh goalie situation. We have a great young core with a few solid veterans

But we can not keep going with a 2-goalie merry-go-round


If you have a close-knit team who wants to win, with good coaching and a team who plays consistent defense, yes you can win with 2 goalies.


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