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Allen Degenerate 03-22-2009 05:36 PM

New Goalie Tips
 
I needed some new wheels for my skates today, so I went with the shop and walked out with a new set of goalie pads. I've never played before, but I'd like to start out in a butterfly style.
Any tips on technique/exercises I can do to improve recovery time?

Gunnar Stahl 30 03-22-2009 05:42 PM

drop down in butterfly and pop up. you dont have to be on the ice/whatever you play roller on to do it. just put your pads on, drop to butterfly and pop up

Hamilton35 03-24-2009 09:39 AM

To start, make sure you arent falling. Stay in control when you go down. Keep your butt straight. This will keep you tall. Knees are down, everything else is essentially straight. For a butterfly I am sure you can find a million websites.

For easiest recovery, from what I have seen from coahcing at camps, go one leg at a time. Preferrably your glove leg. As a new goalie you wont have much body control yet, so raise the glove leg then your stick leg. This should help keep your stick on the ground/ice. To help with balance, put some pressure on your stick, but not too much that you are leaning.

EmptyNetter 03-24-2009 11:44 AM

Before you start practicing make sure you've got pads made for a butterfly goalie. Girl I know made that mistake -- there wasn't enough padding on the inside of the knee to protect her when she goes down to block a shot. I think she opted to play as a standup goalie rather than to return/exchange the pads.

the_pen_is_mightier 03-24-2009 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Hamilton35 (Post 18684969)
To start, make sure you arent falling. Stay in control when you go down. Keep your butt straight. This will keep you tall. Knees are down, everything else is essentially straight. For a butterfly I am sure you can find a million websites.

For easiest recovery, from what I have seen from coahcing at camps, go one leg at a time. Preferrably your glove leg. As a new goalie you wont have much body control yet, so raise the glove leg then your stick leg. This should help keep your stick on the ground/ice. To help with balance, put some pressure on your stick, but not too much that you are leaning.

I have to disagree with this. The leg that you recover with is based on which way the play is going. If the play moves to your left, pull your right leg under you, and push off it to your left. This would also allow you to butterfly slide, if need be (if you're on ice - not sure how this works in roller). By doing this, you are recovering and repositioning yourself in one fluid motion.

I agree that you do not drop or "fall" into the butterfly. Keep your head up and chest facing foward as you drive your knees to the ground/ice. Watch a good goalie making a butterfly - from the ready position to when they're actually in a butterfly, their torso and head barely move.

Also, try to keep your weight on your knees once the move is executed. I've seen many new goalies almost sit when in the butterfly, which leads to poor recovery and makes them smaller in net. It also creates holes along the ice.

Good luck!

Hamilton35 03-24-2009 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by the_pen_is_mightier (Post 18690125)
I have to disagree with this. The leg that you recover with is based on which way the play is going. If the play moves to your left, pull your right leg under you, and push off it to your left. This would also allow you to butterfly slide, if need be (if you're on ice - not sure how this works in roller). By doing this, you are recovering and repositioning yourself in one fluid motion.

I agree that you do not drop or "fall" into the butterfly. Keep your head up and chest facing foward as you drive your knees to the ground/ice. Watch a good goalie making a butterfly - from the ready position to when they're actually in a butterfly, their torso and head barely move.

Also, try to keep your weight on your knees once the move is executed. I've seen many new goalies almost sit when in the butterfly, which leads to poor recovery and makes them smaller in net. It also creates holes along the ice.

Good luck!

For beginners, I find its much easier to worry about a proper recovery and then move, then get them to try to get up and position all at once. Too much too soon.

the_pen_is_mightier 03-24-2009 04:34 PM

^ To each his own, but personally, I'm a believer in teaching proper recovery from the get-go - prevents developing bad habits IMO.

adaminnj 03-24-2009 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by EmptyNetter (Post 18686492)
Before you start practicing make sure you've got pads made for a butterfly goalie. Girl I know made that mistake -- there wasn't enough padding on the inside of the knee to protect her when she goes down to block a shot. I think she opted to play as a standup goalie rather than to return/exchange the pads.

Tell the girl that she can have stacks and boards installed in her current pads that will help her with butterfly. loads of people do this, Brodeur uses a stand up pad that has stacks added for his hybrid style of play.

densetsu 03-24-2009 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hamilton35 (Post 18690444)
For beginners, I find its much easier to worry about a proper recovery and then move, then get them to try to get up and position all at once. Too much too soon.

At the least, they shouldn't use one leg for recovery every time. I did that when I first started out, and since I solely recovered using my right leg, my left leg was significantly weaker. When I started to get into more intermediate recovery techniques, this was a big detriment. My slides were suffering as well.

Give both legs a workout, then later on it won't bite you in the butt.

Hamilton35 03-25-2009 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by densetsu (Post 18691455)
At the least, they shouldn't use one leg for recovery every time. I did that when I first started out, and since I solely recovered using my right leg, my left leg was significantly weaker. When I started to get into more intermediate recovery techniques, this was a big detriment. My slides were suffering as well.

Give both legs a workout, then later on it won't bite you in the butt.


As long as he does it properly.

Must be a mean bad habit if you cant get out of it. I am guessing you can only slide one way properly?

densetsu 03-25-2009 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Hamilton35 (Post 18703512)
As long as he does it properly.

Must be a mean bad habit if you cant get out of it. I am guessing you can only slide one way properly?

Huh? I'm fine now.
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When I started to get into more intermediate recovery techniques, this was a big detriment. My slides were suffering as well.
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