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ReVeuF 03-25-2009 10:05 AM

300 000 people to put 1000$ to buy the Habs
 
They spoke about that on CKAC, what do you guys think about this idea ?

I think the management will be chaotic personnally. It will also turn to be way more political.

Kriss E 03-25-2009 10:11 AM

Dumbest idea ever.
Why not 3 million people( pretty much the whole mtl population if im not mistaken) put 100$ each while were at it.

I hope they were joking about this.

Habsfan18 03-25-2009 10:15 AM

:laugh: that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard?

300,000 owners? Is that actually what they're suggesting? :help:

Bronn 03-25-2009 10:24 AM

If i invest 2000$ , which woulsd make me the majority owner , can i be the GM ? :)

Habs 1909 03-25-2009 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReVeuF (Post 18703107)
They spoke about that on CKAC, what do you guys think about this idea ?

I think the management will be chaotic personnally. It will also turn to be way more political.

Hahaha
I was talking to my friend about this idea yesterday. The only way the owners could make a decision is by voting?
I guess they all get season tickets for 1000$ and complete control over the team.

smon 03-25-2009 10:25 AM

If you know anything at all about how the world works, you'd know that this is impossible.

viasyncro 03-25-2009 10:27 AM

Wow, I really don't think we could get a better example of our socialistic background with this proposal.

Doctor House 03-25-2009 10:28 AM

"There's a sucker born every minute"

Megaforce 03-25-2009 10:29 AM

Met Gillet's wife last night. Blonde, young, has a cute dog. I should've asked her if GG would go for it.

One 03-25-2009 10:31 AM

Well, the Green Bay Packers would be an exemple...

Quote:

Priced at $200 per share, fans bought 120,010 shares during the 17-week sale, which ended March 16, 1998. As of June 8, 2005, 112,015 people (representing 4,750,934 shares) can lay claim to a franchise ownership interest. Shares of stock include voting rights, but the redemption price is minimal, no dividends are ever paid, the stock cannot appreciate in value - though private sales often exceed the face value of the stock, and stock ownership brings no season ticket privileges. No shareholder may own over 200,000 shares, a safeguard to ensure that no individual can assume control of the club. To run the corporation, a board of directors is elected by the stockholders. The board of directors in turn elect a seven-member Executive Committee (officers) of the corporation, consisting of a president, vice president, treasurer, secretary and three members-at-large. The president is the only officer to draw compensation; the rest of the committee is sitting "gratis."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Bay_Packers

Booky 03-25-2009 10:39 AM

People have to stop thinking that if they aquire a share of the montreal canadiens they would be able to vote for which UFA to sign...

The structue would be the following per se:

- 20 000 stocks of equal value held by X number of shareholders
- They would vote for an amount of adimistrators (7 for a concrete example)
- These administrators would be appointed for a term of 5 years
- These administrators would then appoint the members of the executive (president, gm, etc)
- The president and Gm would have exclusih "hockey decision making abilities" and without approval from the shareholders
- Thereby the only powers given to the shareholder is the appointement of the administrators
- You would be able to restrict the powers of the executive in the shareholders agreement where they would have to approve decisions (like UFA, draft etc...) BUt that model would be ridiculous and the NHL would never approve such ownership...

In conclusion, it is possible but completely unlikely...

Joe Cole 03-25-2009 10:43 AM

As much as I like the fact that Gregoire is not just another voice in the choir, and has his own opinions, this one is simply not realistic.

This would be an unmitigated disaster.

Imagine the first time the teams goes through a 4 game losing streak. :help:

To say that we could do what Green Bay did is the same arguement that some political parties did saying that Quebec could model themselves after small independant latin american countries.... Why the HELL would you want to become a third world country? Why not benefit from being part of a first world nation?

In this case, why the HELL would we want to compare oursleves to Green Bay, a city with a population of 100, 000 people holding on for dear life to any semblance of being something more then a hick town.

Pie in the sky, ok this idea is worth kicking around. In reality, the 100% disaster.

Sined 03-25-2009 10:47 AM

Not to mention we would end up having a rotating door of upper management.

Habs 03-25-2009 10:55 AM

The board of governers would never allow the sale.

Pascal 03-25-2009 10:59 AM

The NHL will JUMP at this idea I am sure. It's probably the best idea since floating cars in the 50s.

Tuggy 03-25-2009 11:06 AM

I'm the one in charge of this actually. Please forward me your credit card information or paypal account and I will let you know how you can be part of this!

MTL-rules 03-25-2009 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by viasyncro (Post 18703343)
Wow, I really don't think we could get a better example of our socialistic background with this proposal.

:shakehead Listening to Rush Limbaugh a little too much, aren't you...

HotHabsFan* 03-25-2009 11:29 AM

Oh yeah i am sure the NHL would let this happen !!! Try again !

Gros Bill 03-25-2009 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Cole (Post 18703513)
As much as I like the fact that Gregoire is not just another voice in the choir, and has his own opinions, this one is simply not realistic.

This would be an unmitigated disaster.

Imagine the first time the teams goes through a 4 game losing streak. :help:

To say that we could do what Green Bay did is the same arguement that some political parties did saying that Quebec could model themselves after small independant latin american countries.... Why the HELL would you want to become a third world country? Why not benefit from being part of a first world nation?

In this case, why the HELL would we want to compare oursleves to Green Bay, a city with a population of 100, 000 people holding on for dear life to any semblance of being something more then a hick town.

Pie in the sky, ok this idea is worth kicking around. In reality, the 100% disaster.

Dismissing this idea because because a "hick town" like Green Bay does it too is a bit . The only reason that "hick town" has survived in the NFL (the all-powerful, immensely successful NFL) is probably because of community ownership.

Also, would you consider Barcelona and Madrid to be "hick towns"? Their football (soccer) teams are member-owned as well.

zzoo 03-25-2009 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Georges St Laraque (Post 18703317)
If i invest 2000$ , which woulsd make me the majority owner , can i be the GM ? :)

NO WAY !
I'll contribute $2,001.01. And I'll be GM.

Habs 4 Life 03-25-2009 11:37 AM

What about Canadian Tire money,will that help?:sarcasm:

7th Player 03-25-2009 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Booky (Post 18703459)
People have to stop thinking that if they aquire a share of the montreal canadiens they would be able to vote for which UFA to sign...
The structue would be the following per se:

- 20 000 stocks of equal value held by X number of shareholders
- They would vote for an amount of adimistrators (7 for a concrete example)
- These administrators would be appointed for a term of 5 years
- These administrators would then appoint the members of the executive (president, gm, etc)
- The president and Gm would have exclusih "hockey decision making abilities" and without approval from the shareholders
- Thereby the only powers given to the shareholder is the appointement of the administrators
- You would be able to restrict the powers of the executive in the shareholders agreement where they would have to approve decisions (like UFA, draft etc...) BUt that model would be ridiculous and the NHL would never approve such ownership...

In conclusion, it is possible but completely unlikely...

I lol'ed
Agree completly

Analyzer 03-25-2009 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zzoo (Post 18704179)
NO WAY !
I'll contribute $2,001.01. And I'll be GM.

I'll put $2,002.00 :)

What a stupid idea.

viasyncro 03-25-2009 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTL-rules (Post 18704053)
:shakehead Listening to Rush Limbaugh a little too much, aren't you...

Lol, it wasn't even an opinion, just stating facts. I was referring to us with a French Canadian background. Those who made the original comment are. This might help...

In 1960 Liberals under Jean Lesage come to power, the Quiet Revolutions begins
Problem: French Canadian Quebecers are considered 2nd class citizens. Political and economic power rests with small English speaking elite

Solutions:
a. have a long term strategy
b. surround yourself with brilliant ambitious people
c. have an independent banking system Caisse Populaire. Handled pensions, government programs, pay
d. nationalize future’s energy program (Hydro Quebec)
e. nationalize education, change it to reflect the long term needs of the province; emphasize technical needs
f. fund cultural programs

My point is that considering our past, this proposal to nationalize our hockey team seems too familiar.

Gros Bill 03-25-2009 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by viasyncro (Post 18704741)
Lol, it wasn't even an opinion, just stating facts. I was referring to us with a French Canadian background. Those who made the original comment are. This might help...

In 1960 Liberals under Jean Lesage come to power, the Quiet Revolutions begins
Problem: French Canadian Quebecers are considered 2nd class citizens. Political and economic power rests with small English speaking elite

Solutions:
a. have a long term strategy
b. surround yourself with brilliant ambitious people
c. have an independent banking system Caisse Populaire. Handled pensions, government programs, pay
d. nationalize future’s energy program (Hydro Quebec)
e. nationalize education, change it to reflect the long term needs of the province; emphasize technical needs
f. fund cultural programs

My point is that considering our past, this proposal to nationalize our hockey team seems too familiar.

The proposal has nothing to do with nationalizing the team. Also, where do you get the idea Lesage created the caisse populaire?


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