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Russian Fan 03-17-2004 11:27 AM

Matthew Barnaby GRATEFUL to the Rangers Organization
 
In a era where too many people criticize the Rangers just for the fun of it. I thought it would be nice for you to see an ex-players being grateful to his ex-organization.

The article is in french but here the part where he talks about the Rangers Organization.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthew Barnaby
Everyone wants to win the Stanley Cup, that's the purpose of playing. I'm happy to be with the Avalanche but I will never say something wrong about the Rangers organization.

It wasn't going well when I was with the Lightning & the Rangars gave me a chance to prove that I was an NHL caliber player & for that I will always be grateful

Russian Fan

imox77 03-17-2004 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russian Fan
In a era where too many people criticize the Rangers just for the fun of it. I thought it would be nice for you to see an ex-players being grateful to his ex-organization.

The article is in french but here the part where he talks about the Rangers Organization.



Russian Fan

sorry i ban myself from anything French
"Freedom Fries!!"

BigE 03-17-2004 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by imox77
sorry i ban myself from anything French
"Freedom Fries!!"

Did you guys really do that - rename French Fries? You might want to think about changing your "spain = cowards" bit.

As far as Barnaby goes, I love the guy. I hope he comes back next year and I believe he will.

Russian Fan 03-17-2004 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imox77
sorry i ban myself from anything French
"Freedom Fries!!"

In a era where too many people criticize the Rangers just for the fun of it. I thought it would be nice for you to see an ex-players being grateful to his ex-organization.

You wont get any sympathy by doing this. French is a language not a country. There's other people who speaks other than in France (the Country).

Anyway that was an irrelevant comment. I just hope others will appreciate the gesture of saying something positive about the Rangers Organization, too often put to criticize for nothing.

Russian Fan

Ranger Blue 03-17-2004 12:02 PM

I'm pretty sure 77 was just having some fun Russian. Thanks for the post. Barns is a great guy. Hopefully he'll come back next season. Now, where did I put my 'Freedom Fries' .... :D

Melrose_Jr. 03-17-2004 12:10 PM

He should be thanking the dope that exchanged him for Zdeno Ciger.

BigE 03-17-2004 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Melrose_Jr.
He should be thanking the dope that exchanged him for Zdeno Ciger.

And who said Sather can't make good trades. :)

ArtVandelay 03-17-2004 02:19 PM

I've said this on other message boards, so may as well complete the circle. One thing that has really impressed me about Barnaby since he came to NY is his on-ice intelligence. The goals and assists he gets (though they may be few) have nothing to do with skill and have everything to do with knowing where to be and when to be there. I am praying that Sather brings him back because, though he's just a tad loopy, he can be a great influence on a team of kids - this assumes, of course, that the rebuilding is actually going to happen.

BigE 03-17-2004 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ArtVandelay
I've said this on other message boards, so may as well complete the circle. One thing that has really impressed me about Barnaby since he came to NY is his on-ice intelligence. The goals and assists he gets (though they may be few) have nothing to do with skill and have everything to do with knowing where to be and when to be there. I am praying that Sather brings him back because, though he's just a tad loopy, he can be a great influence on a team of kids - this assumes, of course, that the rebuilding is actually going to happen.

Knowing where to be is a skill, a skill that not a lot of players have. He's got great vision of the ice and good hockey sense. He knows where players are going and where to go himself in order to create the best possible chances.

He didn't score a ton in juniors for nothing. :)

Fire Sather 03-17-2004 02:40 PM

I'd love to call Barnaby "Captain Barnaby" next season. :)

ArtVandelay 03-17-2004 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BigE
Knowing where to be is a skill, a skill that not a lot of players have. He's got great vision of the ice and good hockey sense. He knows where players are going and where to go himself in order to create the best possible chances.

He didn't score a ton in juniors for nothing. :)

You got me. I was actually just thinking of skill in terms of the physical skills.

I wish we could've put Barnaby's brain in Kovalev's body - before the trades. Just imagine if Kovalev really worked his tail off every shift and played intelligently in all zones.

SingnBluesOnBroadway 03-17-2004 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArtVandelay
I've said this on other message boards, so may as well complete the circle. One thing that has really impressed me about Barnaby since he came to NY is his on-ice intelligence. The goals and assists he gets (though they may be few) have nothing to do with skill and have everything to do with knowing where to be and when to be there. I am praying that Sather brings him back because, though he's just a tad loopy, he can be a great influence on a team of kids - this assumes, of course, that the rebuilding is actually going to happen.


Very true.

Barnaby alsom made some very subtle yet effective plays where he would draw defensemen to him and that would allow room for other players. He's smart and he's fearless. Not a bad combination.

Jayce 03-17-2004 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by imox77
sorry i ban myself from anything French
"Freedom Fries!!"

Another smart one on the Rangers board... I couldn't care less about the French comment, but "Spain=cowards w/ thier tails between their legs" is totally disrepectful after what they just went through. :madfire: Just classless.

On the other hand, Barnaby :yo:

imox77 03-17-2004 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JayceNYR
Another smart one on the Rangers board... I couldn't care less about the French comment, but "Spain=cowards w/ thier tails between their legs" is totally disrepectful after what they just went through. :madfire: Just classless.

On the other hand, Barnaby :yo:

Well if it was'nt true you would have a point but they caved in :bow: to the terrorist and your under the table money deals w/ Sadaam is disrespectful to Americans :teach:

007 03-17-2004 03:50 PM

Every once in a while, some of Barnaby's goals had a lot to do with skill. One of my favourite things about him as a Ranger were those odd nights where he'd show up and pull a Mario-type move, either with a blind pass or (just occasionally) a great deke. He had a great goal, I think against the Islanders last year (maybe?), where he rounded the goalie with great patience. I couldn't watch tat game, but my friend who's a Devils fan called me up to tell me to watch the highlights. Now I know there weren't many nights like that, but they were well worth the wait... :bow:

I'd love to see him back...

Davisian 03-17-2004 03:57 PM

I'm often guilty of hijacking thread subjects, but this one's got me so confused..

Did Barnaby say he liked the Rangers, and their Fries, but is worried about the Spanish/Franco geopolitical implications???


VOTE BARNABY in '04

Frozen North 03-17-2004 06:54 PM

:lol:

Right on. Barnaby was on my top five hated players list when we traded for him. Now, he tops my list of players to acquire this offseason.


This makes it hard to choose who to root for to win the Cup. Toronto? Colorado? Nashville? (Go Zholtok!)

n8 03-17-2004 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by imox77
Well if it was'nt true you would have a point but they caved in :bow: to the terrorist and your under the table money deals w/ Sadaam is disrespectful to Americans :teach:

Are you an international poli-sci major? no? who would've guessed. first, changing presidents after an attack is not caving into terrorists. we too surely will do it as well this november. second, spanairds protested a lot against sending troops so they were already pissed about something. 3, troops were sent without any proof other than some bigger jackass saying so. bush really makes dolan look like a genius. i never thought we'd ever have more comedic material from a president that from clinton but boy was i wrong. 4 spain is a country. spanish would be a language. spanairds who be the people. and if you watch any form of international news media, these people are not caving in. CNN is propaganda. just like you shouldn't judge persons based on their country, i'd hope other foreigners don't judge americans based on imox77's boarish comments. that "boarish" pov is why certain people in the world have a "kill ALL americans" attitude. they judge us based on what some big jackass does. that would be like blaming barnaby for jimmy dolans support of sather.

barnaby is awesome. i think teams whom we traded our best players to are seeing just why we liked them so much (col, van, tor)

Hankenstein 03-17-2004 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by n8
and if you watch any form of international news media, these people are not caving in. CNN is propaganda.

I hate when these threads get political but I have to comment on this.

First off, Spain was attacked by terrorists 3 days before the election. The attack affected the results of the election greatly. The incumbant party was leading, by a good majority, in all polls before the attacks. The result of the attacks led to the socailst party in Spain to gain the nessacary seats to take control of the government. The first move by the new ruling party was to threaten to pull the troops out of Iraq.
This BLANTENTLY says, "Ok, sorry about that Mr. Terrorist. We don't want to make you mad, and we know that having troops in Iraq really gets you going, so we'll get out of there as quickly as possible." All this does is fuel the mentality that, "If we kill them, we can get what we want." Great way to stand up to the greatest global threat.

And as to your comment on CNN being propoganda for the right-wing, hawkish public opinion machine - PLEASE. There isn't a more leftist major news organization out there. :teach:

Again, Sorry to everyone for all the politics, but I feel very strongly about this.

By the way: Barnaby rocks! :handclap:

n8 03-17-2004 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mobis13
I hate when these threads get political but I have to comment on this.

me too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mobis13
This BLANTENTLY says, "Ok, sorry about that Mr. Terrorist. We don't want to make you mad, and we know that having troops in Iraq really gets you going, so we'll get out of there as quickly as possible." All this does is fuel the mentality that, "If we kill them, we can get what we want." Great way to stand up to the greatest global threat.

Terrorism was not victorious. rather Democracy took a blow. Socialist party exploited that event to their fullest advantage.

but are you saying, God forbid, Al Qaeda attacks the US on november 9th that you'd reelect Bush just to stick it to the terrorists and show them who's boss? @$#% that man!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mobis13
And as to your comment on CNN being propoganda for the right-wing, hawkish public opinion machine - PLEASE. There isn't a more leftist major news organization out there. :teach:

CNN has enough spin to make a figure skater dizzy. The white house has that station by the leash and balls. They report only what the government lets them and that is not real journalism. Apart from the local news, i watch BBC and DW (german) news to learn what the hell is going on in this word. CNN isn't news. it's news entertainment.

but enough of that. let's just agree to disagree.

Hankenstein 03-17-2004 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n8
let's just agree to disagree.


Amen brother.

Did I mention Barnaby rocks? :handclap:

BigE 03-17-2004 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 007
Every once in a while, some of Barnaby's goals had a lot to do with skill. One of my favourite things about him as a Ranger were those odd nights where he'd show up and pull a Mario-type move, either with a blind pass or (just occasionally) a great deke. He had a great goal, I think against the Islanders last year (maybe?), where he rounded the goalie with great patience. I couldn't watch tat game, but my friend who's a Devils fan called me up to tell me to watch the highlights. Now I know there weren't many nights like that, but they were well worth the wait... :bow:

I'd love to see him back...


My favorite Barny moment came last year at Nassau Coliseum when he belted that HUGE slapper off the crossbar and then punched the glass afterwards. :dazzle:

A close second would be his laughing fight with Jason Doig.

:lol:

nyr5186 03-17-2004 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigE
My favorite Barny moment came last year at Nassau Coliseum when he belted that HUGE slapper off the crossbar and then punched the glass afterwards. :dazzle:

A close second would be his laughing fight with Jason Doig.

:lol:

Nothing better than his goal celebrations.

Remember the one where he scored against the Isles I think, then skated all the way around the net and pulled the Theo Fleury right along the Isles bench?

What about the OT game winner last year where he kept trying to leap with his arms in the air but was pulled down by Nedved? That was classic.

Brooklyn Ranger 03-18-2004 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mobis13
I hate when these threads get political but I have to comment on this.

First off, Spain was attacked by terrorists 3 days before the election. The attack affected the results of the election greatly. The incumbant party was leading, by a good majority, in all polls before the attacks. The result of the attacks led to the socailst party in Spain to gain the nessacary seats to take control of the government. The first move by the new ruling party was to threaten to pull the troops out of Iraq.
This BLANTENTLY says, "Ok, sorry about that Mr. Terrorist. We don't want to make you mad, and we know that having troops in Iraq really gets you going, so we'll get out of there as quickly as possible." All this does is fuel the mentality that, "If we kill them, we can get what we want." Great way to stand up to the greatest global threat.

And as to your comment on CNN being propoganda for the right-wing, hawkish public opinion machine - PLEASE. There isn't a more leftist major news organization out there. :teach:

Again, Sorry to everyone for all the politics, but I feel very strongly about this.

By the way: Barnaby rocks! :handclap:

Two things: first, the Spanish government shot itself in the foot lying about who the evidence pointed to, blaming ETA from the beginning and sticking to that blame even as evidence mounted that it most likely wasn't. That's what many people in Europe think and today the US adminstration also said the same thing.

"The strongest public statement came from Richard L. Armitage, the deputy secretary of state, who said in a television interview that the Spanish government initially "didn't get what information did exist out to the public."

He suggested that the Spanish government had clung to the supposition that a Basque separatist group, ETA, was responsible and failed to tell the public about emerging evidence that Islamic extremists might have detonated the bombs that killed about 200 and injured hundreds of others Thursday. In separate interviews, he twice said Spain "mishandled" the matter, The Associated Press reported. As a result, he said, the governing party was ousted in elections Sunday.

"I think the vote that propelled the Socialists into power in Spain, as I understand it, was a protest by the people against the handling of the terrorist event by the sitting government of Spain," Mr. Armitage told a Philadelphia radio station." (quoted from the NYT online edition 3/18/04).

Second, the Socialists didn't just suddenly change their position on the war in Iraq. They've been against it from the beginning and it was part of their platform. And they have said repeatedly that they will continue to keep troops in Iraq IF a UN resolution is passed--which the US adminstration claims is in the works and will be voted on before June 30th deadline (when the US plans to transfer sovereignty back to the Iraqis).

Many people in the world object to the way this United States government has defined the war against terrorism. Iraqis didn't bomb the Spanish last week, rather it was people who follow Al Qaeda's message/goals. And sooner or later they will attack other "western" countries that disagree with them, whether or not they backed the United States' use of force in Iraq.

Finally, I have no problem with bringing Barnaby back--especially if it means that Holik is not named captain.

RushingRocket 03-18-2004 01:31 AM

It's good to know that so many people have educated opinions when everything sometimes seems contrary to that.

Barnaby kicks butt


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